Re: Slow in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r12977861 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:59:55 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:59:55 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12984531 anon : I'd be interested in your explanation of exactly where it says in the U.S. Constitution that it is exclusively a "State's right" to issue orders that will directly result in the death of a person?

Death sentences are routinely appealed to the federal level; the U.S. Supreme Court just ordered that no minor may be executed any where in the United States. (Which I disagree with, but that is beside the point.)

How do you think this is any less of a case deserving of a federal hearing?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12984531 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:31:55 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12984385 megarock : Sad but true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12984385 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:16:44 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12983119 anon :
Yes, you have to ask the Federal Government to protect you, because if they just step in to take the appropriate action you all bitch about more big brother....

Make up your damn minds.
It's the difference between having the cops chase down the people that ripped you off, or following you around 24-7 just because...you have a shaved head, goatee and tatoos. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12983119 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:29:05 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12982688 fireflier : Might shed some objective light on things here:

»abstractappeal.com/schiavo/infopage.html
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Joking aside, my guess as to why the media isn't jumping on it is because to the technically deficient, this is not too distinguishable from the multitude of other CC scams going on right now. I'm beginning to doubt the media can even understand the significance of this.
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said by RavenTKR See Profile:

I was under the impression that there are such thing as "separation of powers" and "separation of church and state".
Congress creates the boundaries of the courts. Absolutely nothing unConstitutional about what they did with this Florida thing.

Separation of Church and State does not exist in the Constitution. The phrase comes from a personal letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to a friend that later became public knowledge. Most people that are proponents of this idea like to pretend that it is our law, but it isn't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12982037 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:54:14 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12981968 N10Cities :
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said by tdumaine See Profile:

Government = slow
Unless you're on a feeding tube...
Now you've done it! :D
»redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warrio···nade.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12981968 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:37:05 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12980983 Kip patterson : Choicepoint is NOT a credit card clearing house. There is no reason to think that the Choicepoint scam has any thing to do with Pluto.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12980983 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:42:18 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12980597 Steve :
said by RavenTKR See Profile:

Congress sure blew it this time, and it's only a matter of time before that law that was passed late Sunday would be declared unconstitutional by the courts.
It is inconceivable that this decision will be struck down on that basis; the Constitution grants Congress the power to establish the Court system and set their juridictions, so this recent bill which grants the Federal Court jurisdiction is very squarely within Congressional purview.

It was rash, foolish, dangerous, sets a bad precedent, grandstanding, against state's rights, but it was not unconstitutional.

Steve
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This was not reported as a zombie/phishing attack. It was social engineering that occured, according to the reports I've read.
What will have to happen is either stricter control over whom the clearing houses like ChoicePoint Data accept as clients, or the removal of the ability of companies like that to maintain databases of personal information. Since the latter is unlikely, I'd expect that this could happen again.
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I am donating my organs if they are any good, should some one decide that isn't ok? I think not....and no it isn't different...
Please be aware that there is much much more to this case than anyone has reported. Not the least of which is that Mr. Schiavo suddenly remembered that Terri would want to die several (I believe 7) years after the whole thing started, almost immediately after having won money under the guise of wanting to take care of her for the rest of her life, and around the same time as he took on a girlfriend.

And that's not to mention the paramedics who suspected foul play, and how speech therapy and most outside contact (even TV and Radio background noise) was suddenly stopped once she got to the point where she was starting to form words.
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Hence the reason the scam is still active.
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Make up your damn minds.
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I have a shaved head, a goatee, and tatoos. Don't you realize the rules don't apply to me. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12979880 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:55:05 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12979542 MrWhippit : Maybe these Pluto guys are VERY SMART...lol
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said by wah wah wah:

Has anyone bothered to read the Schiavo law, and say which part of it they think is 'unconstitutional?'

It's a law that allows a legal challenge to be brought in federal court. I doubt it will be found unconstitutional; the court may just decide that proper procedures have been followed in the case, and do nothing.
what concerns me is that most Repubs are staunch states rightest, unless it is something that is contrary to their way of thinking...I just went through this with my father inlaws death....I honored his wishes, he had a living will , power of attorney....(Me)He had cancer through out his body with no chance what so ever of survival and I made sure that he was not plugged in,as per his wishes..... this has nothing to do with "Schiavo" it's all political....I am donating my organs if they are any good, should some one decide that isn't ok? I think not....and no it isn't different...
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It's a law that allows a legal challenge to be brought in federal court. I doubt it will be found unconstitutional; the court may just decide that proper procedures have been followed in the case, and do nothing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12978791 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:06:13 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12978162 RavenTKR : They could indeed hire a lobbyist firm with the money they stole.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12978162 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:01:16 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12978145 RavenTKR : I was under the impression that there are such thing as "separation of powers" and "separation of church and state".
Congress sure blew it this time, and it's only a matter of time before that law that was passed late Sunday would be declared unconstitutional by the courts.
Although It would be great if the people in Congress would act this fast to pass a law that isn't geared toward a single individual.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12978145 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:59:09 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12978030 jjp4345 : The small companies and individuals do not have lobbyists, so their interests are of no concern to the Federal Government and Congress. One need only look at the aviation problem after 9/11 to see that. A senior aide to Trasnportation Security Administrator was quoted as saying on September 23, 2002, "Neither TSA nor the Federal Government is interested in any technology to prevent the hijacking of aircraft." Makes you wonder where he was on 9/11. Also, most of the members of Congress say "the reason new technologies to prevent the hijacking of aircraft, like SRTA001, are not being funded is the American public is not asking for them to be funded." Did you know you had to ask the Federal Government and Congress to protect you?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12978030 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:47:34 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12978001 RavenTKR : This scenario sounds a little bit far fetched, but who knows?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12978001 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:44:39 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12977909 DVOOR8 :
said by RavenTKR See Profile:

I would say they're busy doing the bidding for MPAA/RIAA. I wonder why they prioritize copyright infringement violators for credit card theft. Because of the influence RIAA/MPAA wields in Congress and to our politicians.
If the lobbyists are not filling the politicians and law makers pockets, there is no concern. If Pluto D Nicosa hired a lobbyist firm and paid off enough lawmakers, he could make this kind of scam perfectly legal and have the victims tossed in jail for questioning the charges.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12977909 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:35:40 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12977877 Tomek : Don't forget Gov/ISP ignorance in the matters of zombie PCs and spam.
But as You said, MPAA/RIAA has fatter wallets, than spam/DDOS victims.
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said by tdumaine See Profile:

Government = slow
Unless you're on a feeding tube...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12977861 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:30:09 EDT Re: Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12977714 RavenTKR : I would say they're busy doing the bidding for MPAA/RIAA. I wonder why they prioritize copyright infringement violators instead of credit card theft. Because of the influence RIAA/MPAA wields in Congress and to our politicians.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12977714 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:15:02 EDT Slow http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12977668 tdumaine : Government = slow]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12977668 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:09:45 EDT