Insight and bittorrent? in Inside Insight http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r12955138 en Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:14:21 EDT Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:14:21 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13773492 anon : Springfield, IL

I've been having problems for the last few days, usually getting single digit ul/dl rates. Using BitTornado, I dropped my "max peer connections" to 60 and jumped up to 40-60 kB/s just like it used to.

I'm not sure why that makes a difference now, but it does.

(PS - Iggy needs to abandon D'Arcy's Pint and go somewhere in town that serves 'real' horseshoes!! :p )]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13773492 Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:03:19 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13716340 anon : I've found that if I limit my maximum number of connections at 75 or below my connection stays alive, but if I go above that my connection keeps dying. This was not the case until just the last month or two. Before then I had no such problems. I am located in lexington, KY, btw.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13716340 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:07:48 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13707093 dinzy : Insight has been turning sandvine off and on lately. Right now it is off for me]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13707093 Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:11:19 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13698202 thebeav111 : Cogeco is also experimenting with Sandvine in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. I cannot download at more than 15k/s, and I can not upload at more than 5k/sec. I run a callcentre that does end user support for 5 different ISPs. I called Cogeco support, they said to e-mail, I e-mailed them, they said to call, so I am moving out of there area into Roger's.

Andrew Beaver]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13698202 Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:44:42 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13366318 dinzy : I think using someone elses connection is a bit shady too. :)

I just wish that insight would be up fornt and honest with its customers about how much they are restricting their internet connection. I also didn't like how they snuck this in during spring break.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13366318 Mon, 09 May 2005 13:04:16 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13366174 IGGY : While I'm not saying that this in fact may not be true. I find an anonymous posting somewhat suspect. Like I stated here »Re: As of May 3 I think bittorrent is blocked

If SBC is going to try and drum up business in the forum. It might be wise for them to offer DSL to all parts of areas they serve. It would also be wise for them to maybe consider "naked" DSL at a competitive price. Both of these things are something that we won't be seeing SBC doing any time soon.
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InsightBB is being shady.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13364108 Mon, 09 May 2005 03:16:59 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13301928 IGGY : I'm not sure what the issue is. I can't seem to get any decent speed on either of my downloads. Maybe it's my client or a setting has gotten dorked up. I'm thinking of trying to find a new client. But last time I had a look at other software. Nothing really gave me the options and features of my current software. But that software is Java based and kills my machine in resources.

Update - updated a setting in my router ( I'd forgotten I needed to change this ) - updated my client settings a bit. And now speeds are better. But not 100% brilliant just yet.
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So far I'm getting about 98-108kB/s on DVD1 and about 35-43kB/s on DVD2. DVD1 reports that it has 450+ seeders and DVD2 reports it has around 250. Seems the DL should be much faster. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13293138 Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:24:02 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13274991 IGGY : Odd the link I clicked for the movie didn't seem to offer that when I was looking this AM. It just had the small Quicktime downloads. Thanks for the link. The torrent files seem to be linked here »www.lysator.liu.se/%7ezap/revelations/

"so almost 3 days isn't terrible for retrieving it I guess. I had just hoped for better speeds."

Actually that is horrible time. Well depending on who is hosting and serving the file. Like I said above I'll probably have this Star Wars file before the Pope funeral file is even done. But if the file is being hosted on a good server with good seeds. And there is no ISP interference. You should be able to get the file in a half a day or less.

Looks like I may have misspoke. This Star Wars file is coming in way slow so far. Even though it looks as if tons of people are serving it up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13274991 Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:36:38 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13270993 compugeek : »www.panicstruckpro.com/revelatio···vie.html

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"DVD image of Star Wars: Revelations"

If that truly has been released for free. That might be worth having.
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»www.panicstruckpro.com/ revelations/

The fastest I have gotten on my InsightBB connection was maybe 48Kbps down. Granted I am throttling my upload at 5Kbps. Would throttling my upload limit the download speed? I have about 50% of the file after 2.5 days. Should I be downloading faster off torrents? I imagine TONS of people are downloading this on bittorrent (suppossed to be really good)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13264971 Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:54:43 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13261824 Djarum : I have also been having problems with BT in the last couple of weeks. I can download stuff just fine, and seed while downloading. But as soon as my file is complete and those peers that I was connected too finish it won't find another peer, therefore no more seeding.

It really pisses me off that they are doing this, as it has been mentioned many times in this thread that there are many legitimate uses for bittorrent right now, and only more in the future. Hopefully if enough of us complain they will remove these silly restrictions.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13261824 Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:44:26 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13134502 Qumahlin :
said by IGGY See Profile:

"Well I wouldn't say really fast seeing as even when the wow BT client works it does not work well."

I'm going to have disagree with that statement. Before Insight started goofing with things. I could get extremely awesome speeds using BitTorrent. As long as those that were sharing had decent speeds as well. I think I've posted captures of my speeds in previous threads ( in relation to BitTorrent ).
Just wanted to clarify I wasn't referring to BT I was referring to WoW's crippled BT client which sucks for the most part unless you download the "hacked" client which enables alot more features and brings speeds up to par with normal BT clients
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13099599 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:02:53 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13099597 dinzy : its always nice to know you aren't alone. The problem started 3/23 and has not improved at all since then]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13099597 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:02:31 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13098370 illini25 : Same as you IT.... im "illini25" over on your site as well. I can seed, but it's pretty damn slow. My speed just hoovers around 10 kb/sec :(

But im hoping down the road things will improve.....knock on wood of course.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13098370 Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:28:04 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13094535 IlliniTorren : Me and a number of people from my site are having problems seeding anything on Insight's network. Anyone else still experiencing the same problems?

Also I have users on Insight's network (including myself) who get errors in our BitTorrent clients that people with anyone else as an ISP don't get.

I'm getting ready to ditch Insight for SBC DSL if this doesn't clear up soon. Probably will send a nasty e-mail to them first.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13094535 Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:23:53 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13030107 dinzy : Oh well so much for that theory, yet I am still on a 2 hour lease. I am aware of how their IP assigning works and I have recently switched by swapping MACs hoping it may reset things.

Have you power cycled recently? I want to know why I am on a 2 hour lease and no tech sees any work being done. Maybe I am just a subject in their latest traffic shaping experiment :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13030107 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:28:53 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13026172 anon : As for the IP lease here is info from my Cisco router:

Temp IP addr: 12.203.114.xxx for peer on Interface: Ethernet0
Temp sub net mask: 255.255.252.0
DHCP Lease server: 12.223.2.34, state: 3 Bound
DHCP transaction id: 84E2601
Lease: 345600 secs, Renewal: 172800 secs, Rebind: 302400 secs

Looks like my lease is 4 days right now. I'm not sure what it was before.

Insight says they have Dynamic IPs but they really are more like static ones. When you "register" your computer on their network it writes your MAC address into a database with an associated IP. In this way you will always get the same IP address everytime your computer asks to renew it. Even if your computer was offline for a day or two.

I wonder if they are possibly doing some sort of "flow" based filtering. I've noticed the same thing with my BT client getting a whole bunch of peers from a BT tracker and then every single one gets closed out right away as non-connectable.

It actually seems a little better now because I am having some success in seeding a file. I think they are doing some serious application level filtering. I don't think this is any weak IP or port filtering, but looking inside the packets. They could be limiting the number of in/out peer connections for everyone on Insight.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13026172 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:34:33 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13023983 dinzy : Are you on a 2 hour lease? To me this signals something temporary. Now whether the temporary issue becomes permanent remains to be seen.

I have noticed that it is easier to get some speed, even up, on very active torrents so I don't know if it can be determined if they are blocking particular sites or just severing connections after downloading is done. Maybe this recent "kernel upgrade" is just a parameter tweak for Sandvine.

I really don't mind if they shape traffic and cause somewhat reduced speeds, but if they cripple it again I will be pissed because it feels like a downgrade. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13023983 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:48:24 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022824 IGGY : I can say from my point of view. Either a certain sites torrents are messed up ( wouldn't be the first time ). Or Insight is definitely blocking torrent traffic from that site. With one users comments in this forum in a previous thread. It wouldn't surprise me if the site I'm not naming is being targeted. I did have good luck downloading and upload using this torrent. »Now is a good time to test your BT Speeds

So for me it only seems that this is site specific. This may only be do to that site having issues of their own. Or do to something Insight has done on their end.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022824 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 04:13:23 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13019470 dinzy : MY IP has been the same for weeks as well, until I recently changed it by swapping registered PCs. I have a netgear router and it shows the lease when I click the connection status button on the router status page. If you hooked up just a PC you could see it with ipconfig.

ANyway I expect that once people get settled in again there will be more active discussions on this issue in these forums. Hopefully we can all bitch loudly enough until they fix it, or like I said before it may just fix itself. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13019470 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:36:46 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13018967 meterin : I can't find any info on how long my IP lease is for.. I've got a Belkin router and it looks like the router's web setup page doesn't show that info.

There's an entry in the router's log which indicates I had the same IP address on March 17th as I have now, and it looks like my IP address hasn't changed at all, but that may or may not actually mean anything.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13018967 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:12:49 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011019 dinzy : Well Insight was blocking p2p pretty hard from Sept thru to Dec or Nov. Back then it was worse than it is now but similar. I don't really know why they fixed it but they did and everything was great until the 23rd.

Can you do me a favor and check your IP lease length. Perhaps we are both on a node(s) that are being worked on or have some issue that Insight will try to fix. I am being optimistic here but maybe things will go back to normal once the lease reverts to 4 days signalling the end of whatever it is they are doing/ plan to do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011019 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:18:27 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13007731 anon : Wow, it appears I'm not alone. Also in Urbana-Champaign and also just started having problem on the 23rd I believe. I have been able to download but can no longer seed torrents once they've completed.

Can't stay connected to peers, and looking at Azureus logs I see:
PESharedPortSelector: error occurred during socket read: java.io.IOException: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host

I just signed up with the $30/month thing and was pretty happy with it but will probably cancel if this doesn't get resolved.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13007731 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:07:44 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13005193 dinzy : I meant 4 days is the usual IP lease above]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13005193 Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:41:57 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13005186 dinzy : Rebooted everything and waited a bit. Whatever. Still having same problems and I still have a 2 hour IP lease ( as opposed to the usual 4) so whatever is going on here has not been fully completed. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13005186 Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:40:54 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13004914 dinzy : I just found out they did do some work in Urbana-Champaign. Last night there was a kernel upgrade between 12-7AM. I was advised to reset my modem and I just did. Hopefully things will right themselves now. Unless the kernel upgrade means some hardcore sandvine implementation]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13004914 Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:06:24 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13004376 dinzy : I am noticing the peer incoming connection dropping like flies. Didn't start happening until the 23rd. Sure there were issues for months before ( sept - Dec) But things were smooth until recently.

I have been on chat with a few techs over the past couple of days. They noticed that I had a lot of traffic coming from my end, both up and down. At the time I wasn't running anything g and only had one PC directly connected to the modem. The tech told me I may have had spyware, SO I did a couple of scans and found nothing. I also ran net limiter and found 0 traffic coming from my PC. I don't know if this sandvine crap is messing with my modem by some kind of DOS-like attack or if something else is going on. As I stated before I have a 2 hour IP lease which signals an upcoming node move, however the techs say they know of no move coming up.

My issues right now are as follows: Client Azureus

Regular BT transfer seems OK, but not really fast. I get some HTTP errors but can't tell if it is on my end or not.

Seeding doesn't work well. Incoming and outgoing connections drop as soon as they are made. I am only able to get 1 or two connections total! I get more HTTP errors here stuff like input string = f[][][]gh where []= square. So they are screwing up the headers or something.

I tried 2 PCs, router/ no router, ports forwarded, upnp etc and nothing has fixed this so I am pretty sure this is on their end or my modem.

As far as the modem goes 1 tech told me it needed to have it's counter reset so he did that. I have this error though:
2005-03-26 03:24:28 3-Critical 0x04E33A74 Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out

Got it twice and this one has the wrong? date (maybe its GMT)

Any ideas? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13004376 Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:47:10 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13001905 anon : Also apparently you can't download any objectionable material.

Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using the Insight Broadband Internet Service Equipment or the Service to:

ii. post, store, transmit or disseminate any information or material which a reasonable person could deem to be objectionable, offensive, indecent, pornographic, harassing, threatening, embarrassing, distressing, vulgar, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive or otherwise inappropriate, regardless of whether such material or its dissemination is unlawful;

Looks like there is suppose to be no porn on Insight's network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13001905 Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:35:44 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13001796 anon : From Inisghts Terms and Conditions:

Insight may also, at any time and in its sole discretion, without notice, change, add to or remove portions of the Service (including, without limitation, content, functionality, hours of availability, equipment requirements, speed, upstream and downstream limitations, Service features, storage capacity, and protocol filtering) and/or institute or otherwise change fees and charges for the Service. If Customer is dissatisfied with the Service after such changes, Customer's only right and remedy is to cancel this Agreement as stated under the caption "Termination of the Service" below. The only right and remedy for Users that are dissatisfied with Service changes is to cease using the Service.

»www.insightbb.com/terms_conditions/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13001796 Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:20:40 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12995153 anon : I think that Insight has done some tricky filtering when it comes to BT. I appears they are filtering some stuff based upon the HTTP GET Variables. BitTorrent uses these GET variables to send information to a tracker. It also looks like it is filtering the peer connections. I think it's dropping peer connection attempts, but I can't quite understand the logic behind it.

Anyone else noticing things like this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12995153 Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:44:01 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12987497 anon : I don't know about bittorrent, but my downloads from newsgroups have dropped to horrible speeds. In the past, I've pulled down files at a consistent 425-475 kB/s, but now my downloads seem to be hovering at around 200 kB/s. This is total crap. :mad:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12987497 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:04:46 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12986182 EvilMoose : The thing I'm trying to say is that more games are adopting filesharing as a way to release large patches.

Do you trust downloading a "patch" from just anywhere?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12986182 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:30:43 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12985179 dinzy : Oops forgot and can't edit.

My IP lease is now a 4 hour one like it was back when I was having issues before. Then it was because they were doing a node move. Usually it is a 7 day lease. Hopefully they are just doing some maintenance/repair but my symptoms are exactly the same as they were back in September when Insight first started using Sandvine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12985179 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:40:02 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12985139 dinzy : So who else is having issues in Urbana-Champaign and when did they start? Mine started this morning.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12985139 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:35:07 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12984646 IGGY : "Well I wouldn't say really fast seeing as even when the wow BT client works it does not work well."

I'm going to have disagree with that statement. Before Insight started goofing with things. I could get extremely awesome speeds using BitTorrent. As long as those that were sharing had decent speeds as well. I think I've posted captures of my speeds in previous threads ( in relation to BitTorrent ).
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A huge patch that they could have got really fast if Insight wasn't throttling Bit Torrent. They had to go through the run-around to eventually find it.

Out there, I see 1 public link for that patch that doesn't require a subscription or a really long queue. The rest are private links.
Well I wouldn't say really fast seeing as even when the wow BT client works it does not work well.

Also if the person can't find a mirror with the patch they obviously aren't trying. There are TONS of free mirrors for each WoW patch (Hell DSLreports has a mirror available in the WoW forum) =P

Guaranteed it's still an issue, but I just had to point out if you can't find a free site for the patch you need to brush up on your google.com skills
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Here's a nice scenerio:

Person(0), an InsightBB user, goes to a store to purchase WoW, that person has to get a huge content patch to play. So first they try using the Blizzard Downloader to find out that the speeds suck.

Then they try to find a patch and find that the places that have the patch available either charge money or they have to sit behind a long queue.

Then days later they find a working link for the patch from a friend.

Would this person be mad at Blizzard? Would they be mad at Insight?

I mean, all the person was trying to do was get a working patch for a game they downloaded. A huge patch that they could have got really fast if Insight wasn't throttling Bit Torrent. They had to go through the run-around to eventually find it.

Out there, I see 1 public link for that patch that doesn't require a subscription or a really long queue. The rest are private links.

I see this as a potential problem for Insight if the gaming industry begins adopting Bit Torrent as a way to distribute large patches. The user would probably get mad at their ISP first.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12976845 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:34:36 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12976279 IGGY : »/nsearch···ttorrent

insight.iggyz.com

»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=In···Sandvine

»iggy.gnomeblog.com/blog/_archive···224.html

Those links cover previous discussions on the subject. I've had hit and miss experiences with bittorrent since Insight was been playing around with this technology. The way they have handle things isn't exactly putting them in a good light with many users of this forum.
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Iggyz Blog ZoneAlarm Help]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12976279 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:38:05 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12963745 krhines : I've been using BitTorrent all weekend with no problems at all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12963745 Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:06:09 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12963184 anon : same thing here! I reset my router thinking maybee ports weren't forwarding or something. upon reseting i could no longer access internet(mac address was no registered with isp) yet my bt transfers continued and speeds returned to normal >50kbps. After registering new mac address with isp so i could surf the web, speed dropped back to single digit and rarely climb over 5kbps. It seems to me that there has been some kind of traffic shaping implemented in the past week. Network hardware vendors such as sandvine have hardware which can now throttle specific traffic(i.e messaging, gaming, bittorrent) without completly blocking the port. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12963184 Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:32:47 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12961288 Oddsk8er : I am also having a problem, but not sure if it is insight related or just something with my network. However, if I run bittorrent, I can download fine for the most part. But sometime later, my internet cuts out. When this happens I pause a torrent and my internet magically comes back. Not sure if this affects only my computer or other computers on my network...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12961288 Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:40:34 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12959761 anon : yeah I went on vacation and come back and there was only two things I used bittorrent for. They were both legal. Well my speeds went downhill or i get no speed at all. Before I left i could get 422kB/s now I'm getting, when i get connected, 13kB/s at most. Something's different now. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12959761 Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:54:18 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12959526 kywirelessgu : bittorrent works fine for me]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12959526 Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:24:50 EDT Re: Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12956981 anon : same problem here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12956981 Sun, 20 Mar 2005 12:43:13 EDT Insight and bittorrent? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12955138 jared5494 : Hey guys,
This is not a warez post or anything like that. I legally use bittorrent to share my online game videos that are made by myself. Up until recently, my bittorrent worked (both u/l and d/l). Now, nothing works. i cannot download anything or upload anything. I have done nothing to my connection and even turned off windows firewall and routed my ethernet cable straight into my computer (bypassing network) and no luck. I was reading about Insight installing a P2P proxy or something like that. can anyone elaborate or is anyone else having this same problem???

thanks,
jared]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12955138 Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:50:03 EDT