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<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:35:10 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/685737"><b>UnKown</b></A> : "what are you smoking? cogent best? best at being the worst maybe.. they have the worst uptime record of any major provider.. quality data centers don't even bother with them."<br><br>ive used alot of networks before, NAC, Verio, Level3, UUnet, DIGEX, my favorite so far has been well Digex, but Cogent being a close second.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 03:39:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1005135"><b>jimbo2150</b></A> : That really is a rip-off. I know in my area there are T1 lines for about $200-300/month. A T3 would be about $600-700/month (guessing).<br><br>From what I know, a small company I have never even heard of deploys fiber to the schools/libraries in the area. Not sure of the price but I think is is pre-paid by state funds (not payed by the school).]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:45:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: umm... riiiiiiighhhhht</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/172375"><b>DragonFire</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Jerm <A HREF="/useremail/u/150929"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  pnosker <A HREF="/useremail/u/790996"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><br><br><B>Bandwidth is NOT that expensive... certainly not thousands for a 50 MB pipe</B>....Edit: fine, you can't get a 100MB unlimited line, but you can get a 100MB 600GB capped line for $100 a month</DIV>Bandwidth costs aren't the same in NJ as say, where I live in WA state.  I know for a fact one ISP around here pays Sprint (read: a Tier 1 backbone provider) around <B>$12,000.00 a month for a T3</B> (45mbps).<br><br>Also, this is most likely the situation "down under" as I'd imagine internet connectivity off that island costs a little more than say, transport from LA to NY.<br> </DIV>I would just like to point out that there is a reason T lines are so much.  They are up 99% of the time because most Telcos offer contracts where if the line were to go down for any reason at all, the telco will have to pay the customer  based on something like for every hour its down they pay XXXX amount.....<br><br>Also if a T line goes down most Telcos will send someone out right away to fix the problem no matter the time of day.   Id like to see a tech come out to your CO 3AM to just get your DSL back up after calling it in....]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:43:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/418269"><b>pokesph</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  UnKown <A HREF="/useremail/u/685737"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><br><br>if you dont go with the crappy copper systems bandwidth is cheap. 100mbits for 1000 dollars.  www.cogentco.com<br><br>best all fiber network ive ever seen. ive thought of starting a hosting company with it. Might i add it was the only network in lower manhatan still operational during 9/11.<br> </DIV>what are you smoking? cogent best? best at being the worst maybe.. they have the worst uptime record of any major provider.. quality data centers don't even bother with them.<br><SMALL>--<br>Webmaster Steve<BR>- - - - - - - - - - - -<BR>&raquo;<A HREF="http://ppnhosting.com" >ppnhosting.com</A><BR>&raquo;<A HREF="http://sphenterprizes.com" >sphenterprizes.com</A><BR>&raquo;<A HREF="http://pokemonpalace.net" >pokemonpalace.net</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2005 00:10:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/685737"><b>UnKown</b></A> : if you dont go with the crappy copper systems bandwidth is cheap. 100mbits for 1000 dollars.  www.cogentco.com<br><br>best all fiber network ive ever seen. ive thought of starting a hosting company with it. Might i add it was the only network in lower manhatan still operational during 9/11.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:37:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/150929"><b>Jerm</b></A> : Try these ones on for size:<br><br>A 1.5mbit T1 line from a Tier 1 provider intended for commercial resale can (and will) run upwards of $1000/month in certain areas.  As recently as 2 years ago I knew of one ISP here paying around $750/month per T1 line, and they had four of them so monthly costs were around $3k for 6mbps of bandwidth.<br><br>What made this doable was the resell ratios.  Sometimes 30-40mbit sold for every 1mbit of backbone bandwidth is common - thats where we get the "primetime crunch".<br><SMALL>--<br>Want an OC3?  Go to college!  <A HREF="http://launchpad1.uw.wa-k20.net/mrtg/kbacc/wsu/wsu.bacc.wa-k20.net.1.html">Washington State University OC3 MRTG</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:27:09 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/823721"><b>PhoenixDown</b></A> : Thats a rip off. I am sure they could get a better rate.<br><SMALL>--<br>www.pulsetoday.com -- marketing forums!</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:18:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>umm... riiiiiiighhhhht</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/150929"><b>Jerm</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  pnosker <A HREF="/useremail/u/790996"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><br><br><B>Bandwidth is NOT that expensive... certainly not thousands for a 50 MB pipe</B>....Edit: fine, you can't get a 100MB unlimited line, but you can get a 100MB 600GB capped line for $100 a month</DIV>Bandwidth costs aren't the same in NJ as say, where I live in WA state.  I know for a fact one ISP around here pays Sprint (read: a Tier 1 backbone provider) around <B>$12,000.00 a month for a T3</B> (45mbps).<br><br>Also, this is most likely the situation "down under" as I'd imagine internet connectivity off that island costs a little more than say, transport from LA to NY.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:16:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/790996"><b>pnosker</b></A> : Bandwidth is NOT that expensive... certainly not thousands for a 50 MB pipe.  The only thing expensive is the infrastructure, but seriously, a 3MB Cable connection to your home probably costs the network about $15 in bandwidth... it's too bad companies like to get as much $ as possible from each user.  How else could you get a CoLocation for $100 a month with an unlimited 100MB line?<br><br>Edit: fine, you can't get a 100MB unlimited line, but you can get a 100MB 600GB capped line for $100 a month]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:56:33 EDT</pubDate>
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