Re: LOL! in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r12801031 en Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:37:44 EDT Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:37:44 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12817562 wutang17 :
said by XBL2009 See Profile:

said by Jammy See Profile:

Why would anybody want such a slow connection as DSL anyways?
1.5 megabits is enough for 90% of users !!!!!!

and 3.0 megabits is only $30

People want to save money.

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We can start by not paying income taxes
No kidding, if you earn 1k a month that 300.00 taxes can allow you to pay even 100.00 for DSL a month and still have 200.00 to spend on whatever you like!!!

This country bites, taxes is like another way to rape people out of their hard earned money and turn them into one cheap citizen with limited rights. Being cheap sucks cause you have to spend as less as possible due to being raped of income that we are entitled to had most would just learn to say "NO" instead of "yes" ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12817562 Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:20:45 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12807314 pacbowl : WELL its cuz u dont pay ur bill's. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12807314 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:26:12 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12807269 pacbowl : DSL is not for U!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12807269 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:21:58 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12807253 pacbowl : CHARTER just raised its prices to $49.99 thats ridicilous!!! Too bad SBC isnt in my area. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12807253 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:20:28 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12806983 wutang17 :
said by oliphant See Profile:

I have the same Comcast tier you do so cool, we Comcast subs can reach the monthly caps even faster :)

Meanwhile SBC is already at 6Mb and has been there for quite a while of course without the monthly usage caps. Nice to see my Comcast service will finally catch up to DSL. ;) Now if only they would drop the usenet and monthly useage limits, permit hosting and offer static IPs they may be a decent service.
You have been mislead, the 6.0 is no longer in existence. It is grandfathered meaning an expired package that goes back a year. Nothing more then sale's pitch?
3.0/512 is now the official speed of expert package for SBC user. again you have been fooled by a few who brags about it, ignore them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12806983 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 22:49:35 EDT Re: Cable... why stop there? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12806575 bogey780 : Sure the OC-3 sounds nice, but the equipment lease is killer. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12806575 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 22:07:40 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12806526 bogey780 : '*PLUS* distance limitations dictate you will probably not get near the speed you should.'

Whatever rate the line is synched at is the rate you get. Distance matters only as much as it affects what the max rate. If the line maxes at 1.6Mb/s and you're capped at 1.472 then you have nothing to worry about at all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12806526 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 22:02:30 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12804890 XBL2009 :
said by Jammy See Profile:

Why would anybody want such a slow connection as DSL anyways?
1.5 megabits is enough for 90% of users !!!!!!

and 3.0 megabits is only $30

People want to save money.

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said by Pz_ See Profile:

I've had VOIP for about 2 years now. Its great, my SBC bill was ~40 bucks before I dropped it. Now my phone bill is like $15.00 for the same features I had before. No backup and if there are outages, I've never been effected by them. Then again, I'm not a heavy home phone user. My phone calls are something like

person calling me: "hey are you home, I was thinking of coming by"
me: "sure, I'll be here, come on over"
Yeah, pretty boring calls... have you tried those 900 numbers ;)
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said by phuntism See Profile:

...I have a T-3 to my house, and my friend is getting an OC3 installed this week...I don't understand why everyone doesn't have this yet?!
Simple, one word $.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12803018 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:13:26 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12802962 oliphant : Huh? What are you talking about. In order to get the 6000/608 plan through an SBC reseller like say DSL Extreme, you HAVE to be in SBC's service area. Just like my DSLx service. To get DSL I must go with the ILEC or the ILECs resellers and can only get those plans. I can't being in Verizon's service area get the SBC 6000/608 plan from DSLx. I have to choose those plans offered by Verizon whether it's 3000/768 or 7100/768 or whatever. Being in Verizon's area I can buy direct from Verizon, or through a reseller. Same for those in SBC's area. They can buy direct from SBC or buy from resellers.

Sorta like some Comcast and Time Warner markets. In some Comcast markets like I think Seattle you can get cable internet service delivered over Comcast lines from Comcast or Earthlink. The choice of content providers is even higher with Time Warner with Earthlink, RCN and RoadRunner being the content providers. Eventhough it's all basically the same service you may get different pricing and different perks. Same goes for DSL.

At the time I got 3000/768 I was actually with Verizon, but switched to DSLx 'cause Verizon didn't at the time direct sell 3000/768. But even with DSLx the lines were still Verizon, the phone service still Verizon, the CO still Verizon, everything Verizon, except the internet content provider.
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said by oliphant See Profile:

SBC has unlimited use 3000/512 for $30 and 6000/608 (at least through their resellers) for $50.
Well the keyword is reseller..when one is in a SBC terroitory good luck on getting them! As for Verizon it's out of the question again if you are not part of their real esate..
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said by oliphant See Profile:

Beats the $45 Comcast some users in my area pay, plus crappy CATV service, plus franchise fees, plus monthly usage caps, plus monthly usenet caps, plus crappy upload speeds, plus constant price increases...

Grass is always greener.
WTF?! LOL where have you been?? haha I have Comcast HSI and upload is almost at 800. i know that i paid $10/month more for it but does SBC even have that?
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person calling me: "hey are you home, I was thinking of coming by"
me: "sure, I'll be here, come on over"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12802236 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:37:44 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12802016 anon : DO you have some special deal or something?

everyone has seen, heard, read about the price increases from just last year!

When I had attbi and they changed to comcast my bill with discount for antenna service went from about 45 to 60 a month, then suddenly my antenna service didn't count anymore and it jumped from 60 to 99 a month. We had service outages but most times they were usually at 3 to 5 AM. I was extreamly happy to be back in a DSL serviced area again.

Despite what I've just said they do have some advantages
Just as DSL does. I wouldn't go out my way to numerate them though, Digital Cable however is another story YUCK (Yeah yeah IP TV is going to be a mess too I don't even care about it)

The funniest thing of this story is that employees/retirees have to pay more! I don't know if there is an option to drop their discount and go for the deal, The price isn't too far off of this and there is no contract so there are some pluses.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12802016 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:09:38 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801940 oliphant : I have the same Comcast tier you do so cool, we Comcast subs can reach the monthly caps even faster :)

Meanwhile SBC is already at 6Mb and has been there for quite a while of course without the monthly usage caps. Nice to see my Comcast service will finally catch up to DSL. ;) Now if only they would drop the usenet and monthly useage limits, permit hosting and offer static IPs they may be a decent service.
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Comcast did the install for *FREE* and service has never dropped. NO early termination fees. No yearly contracts. No BS.

If DSL is working out for you, GREAT! Comcast is the best available to me and the price is still the same as it was when I got connected. Speed keeps going up though - 1.5mbps to 1.8mbps to 3mbps soon to be 4mbps WITH NO PRICE INCREASE!

I am paying the $10.00 extra(I have 4mbps now) and when the upgrade gets here... 6mbps. ;)

Have a look, 94547 ZIP: »/archive?zip=9···t=Search]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801684 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:35:23 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801539 oliphant : And 600-768 upload surpasses it. Not to mention quite a few DSL providers permit serving, offer static IP options and the vast majority are true unlimited use. As I see it, there is little point in speed if they give you monthly DL limits, especially something pitifully low like Cox's 40GB limit. While fine for most subs, most subs are only surfing and reading email...in which case after 768kbps latency probably plays a bigger role than average throughput to which end in my personal experience as both a DSL sub and a current Comcast sub...average latency during all times of day is significantly better over my DSL connection than my Comcast one.

But to each his own. Most people I see defending Comcast do so 'cause they can't get DSL. Availablility isn't a negative. Bashing DSL based solely on availabitily is like saying Fiber sucks 'cause they can't get it. If given the choice in a head to head comparison like I have, my guess would be they choose DSL based on its typical TOS/AUP, options and price.
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P.S. Not all broadband created equal.
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said by Jammy See Profile:

Why would anybody want such a slow connection as DSL anyways?
they are not slow, 3.0mbits rivals comcast speed curently. Also with dsl you dont get slowed down by many people being on the same node as you. With dsl you have a dedicated connection to the co.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801379 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:00:29 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801341 J D McDorce : To save some coin. If an individual's use patterns rarely reap the benefit of higher caps of a competitor's service, why spend the additional cash for something that they don't use?

It really isn't that much different than multi-tier cable service. For example, Cox in San Diego offers Preferred and Premier service. If bandwidth were the only consideration, Cox could dispense with the Preferred tier since all of their customers would opt to pay more for the Premier tier. Since bandwidth is not the only consideration, Cox Premier offers more bandwidth for more cash.

Many cable companies are not willing to do sub-tiers, so it may be that SBC (in this case) is perfectly willing to offer less bandwidth for less cash.

Taking a look at quarterly subscriber adds for both cable and DSL over the past year, much of the growth appears to be from customers going from dial-up to either cable or DSL. From an economic perspective, it comes across as being more palatable to go from AOL dial-up (for example) to low-end DSL than to go to cable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801341 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:55:02 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801321 dadkins : Not VoIP, Comcast Digital Phone Service(formerly ATT Digital Phone Service). It has been bulletproof since I got it 8? 10? years ago. :)

Had it for years before HSI. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801321 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:51:43 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801285 dadkins : Look through MY posts, see how many complaints about MY Comcast service there are! ;)

Comcast has a FEW customers(7 million?), plus Comcast is having to deal with thrashed/old lines that they did NOT lay thmselves that have needed maintinence for years(ATT's old lines).

Again, I haven't recieved these price increases you speak of!

As always, YMMV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801285 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:47:48 EDT Re: GREAT DEAL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801255 ib50MbSoon :
said by Ark See Profile:

I don't know anybody that can get Comcast who can't also get SBC.
Me...and my neighbor...and my neighbor's neighbor...and...we'll, you get the picture. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801255 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:43:26 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801215 oliphant :
said by Jammy See Profile:

Why would anybody want such a slow connection as DSL anyways?
The same could be asked of DSL users about Cox...why would anybody want a useage capped connection like Cox anyway? »www.cox.com/policy/limitations.asp
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said by dadkins See Profile:

... *PLUS* distance limitations dictate you will probably not get near the speed you should. PASS!
Exactly! I'm only 2.2 miles from the SBC CO and can't even get DSL. Not that I'd care to have a slow package like that, Comcast recently "biggie sized" me to 6000/768, a free upgrade I might add. Comcast HSI has spoiled me rotten! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801090 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:24:45 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801081 dadkins : LOL! My CATV price has been $39.95 for quite some time now... HSI has *NOT* had a price increase.

My phone service is Comcast Digital(previously ATT Digital). SBC was regularly jacking their prices and constantly bad service(why do you think I dropped them?).

»/archive?zip=9···t=Search

DSL is NOT for everyone...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801081 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:23:51 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801038 Jammy : Why would anybody want such a slow connection as DSL anyways?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801038 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:18:46 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12801031 burgermeister :
said by dadkins See Profile:

My cable TV/HSI/Digital Phone service has NEVER been down.
Arggg, I still can't get up the nerve to go with Voice over IP. It still spooks me.

How long have you been using it? Do you have a regular line as backup?
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»www05.sbc.com/DSL_new/content/1,,18,00.html?
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"I've learned that depression is merely anger without enthusiasm." ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12800987 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:11:58 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12800982 Ark : Should be 1.5/384 or 3.0/512 depending on the plan.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12800982 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:11:27 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12800976 oliphant : We got hit with the sweet 30% "How dare I not want CATV" price increase. And we ALL got a price increase when Comcast dropped their price in a single market in violation of Federal Law »'Discounted' Competition We should've gotten the same price.

As for outtages you need only see the CC forum. If your service is reliable...yer lucky. »**Network Outage Posts ONLY please!!** Part 2

As for nastygrams, you need only see the CC forum. »/r0/download/4···/aup.jpg As for seeing what the caps amounts are...of course...Comcast refuses to disclose them while still telling some users they're using too much of their 24/7 service.

As for usenet caps... »online.comcast.net/giganews/
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said by burgermeister See Profile:

I don't have SBC DSL, but I have to say: SBC been very, very good to me! :-)

I've lived in the same house for 15 years and *never* had a problem with my phone/SBC.

Just sayin.
same here, I have dsl through Earthlink @ $50 a month through covad (1500/350) in SBC territory, and am thinking of swithching to the sbc to save $30+ a month....what is the upload?
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My cable TV/HSI/Digital Phone service has NEVER been down.
Also, I have never seen these "caps" you speak of. YMMV. :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12800897 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:01:21 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12800867 burgermeister : I don't have SBC DSL, but I have to say: SBC been very, very good to me! :-)

I've lived in the same house for 15 years and *never* had a problem with my phone/SBC.

Just sayin.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12800867 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:57:34 EDT Re: GREAT DEAL http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12800834 Ark : Its definately worth having a land line with just local service for anything important. Tons of people don't get affected by any limitations either. I've had 6.0/608 for over a year now and its great!
The only thing that sucks is the fees, yes, but cable and other DSL providers all have the same stupid fees tacked ontop of the prices.
I've got quite a bit of relatives and friends in MI in various places, and this should easily be able to get a few more to finally switch from dialup. It really sucks for the few people I know in MI in Verizon territory. Verizon doesn't seem to offer any DSL at all in any of the areas they are the ILEC here.
And our cable company, Comcast, charges upwards of $60/month + fees and taxes for basic cable, and its another $60/month for laggy high-ping slow-upload internet access. I don't know anybody that can get Comcast who can't also get SBC. Its only the few people in Verizon territory that only have Comcast's monthly-price-hikes as an option.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12800834 Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:54:01 EDT Re: LOL! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12800814 oliphant : Beats the $45 Comcast some users in my area pay, plus crappy CATV service, plus franchise fees, plus monthly usage caps, plus monthly usenet caps, plus crappy upload speeds, plus constant price increases...

Grass is always greener.
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