said by ) thanks VERYYY much for the benefit of the Doubt DumbWaldo... appreciate... i will say though the that 3.7 MBPS speed is a speed that I personally verified and pushed...[/QUOTE:

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did you notice i did not say anything to turbomkt? thats because the speed he is showing is actually possible. its faster than the average speeds i quoted and IMHO not likely to be that fast as the service grows in subscribers but that is a realistic and achievable speed. what you are claiming is impossible and it is irresponsible to lead others to believe what you are saying.

either your equipment is flawed, your method of testing is flawed or you are just plain misrepresenting something because that speed is simply not possible.

the ev-do specification has a maximum BUST speed of 2.4 Mb/s.

»www.umtsworld.com/technology/cdma2000.htm
»www.xilinx.com/esp/wireless/cell···2000.htm
»infotech.indiatimes.com/articles···4718.cms
»www.st.co.kr/eng/products/1xevdo···iew.html

in addition to the fact that you think you have broken a technical limitation of the technology your supposed results ignore the fact that at this time verizon only has their EV-DO towers connected to a T-1 connection effectivley halving the possible speeds.

under the most ideal situations available on the verizon network the best speed you could possibly achieve today would be 1.5 Mbs, the speed of the connection going to the tower.

sorry but that speed is impossible and i think it is very irresponsible to promote such bad information in your desire to make a buck. or maybe you have some better explination for disagreeing with the entire industry that agrees the top BURST speed achievable on ev-do is 2.4 Mb/s. or maybe you have a better explination of how you shattered the physical limitation at 1.54Mb/s on the T-1 line that is connected to the EV-DO tower.

or maybe you just lied to make a sale.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11980033 Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:55:23 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11975707 evdo9 : hi all,

wow... kinda neat to see people speaking about our services and site... "any press is good press.. right ;-) "

anyhow.. couple of things... yes...

1) You CAN get the ANTENNA that we sell for $259 cheaper ... even $30.

BUT..

the one we sell at our site IS differnet... the antenna is the same... BUT the Coupling Cabling is TOTALLY different.. we took a mediocre $30 antenna and turned it into a pure-bred EVDO Dedicated and Tuned... Minimal resistance antenna.

2) thanks VERYYY much for the benefit of the Doubt DumbWaldo... appreciate... i will say though the that 3.7 MBPS speed is a speed that I personally verified and pushed...

it is accomplished by

a) Optimizing PROXY Settings
this is crucial due to the "tolken ring - like" Verizon data network setup... if you do NOT customize your Proxy setup to the DEDICATED Verizon Wireless Proxy (and this does NOT happen when you install the Drivers) then you are looking at massive ping times, and latency...

b) compression
but... this is Real full data compression... NON LOSSY.
in otherwords... yes.. .the compression does LOOSE data in GIF and JPG images... BUT... if you are downloading an application from cnet or the web... you can take a 10MB Executible App file and have it on your desktop within 30seconds...

c) Tuning your system to sync with the Verizon System... thats all.

so .. if you want... try the Premium Config for $199... if you're not satisfied... you get 100% of your money back...

just be honorable about it though... if it works... please admit that it works and dont lie just to get your money back... believe me... it happens to us all the time.

The honest folks are the ones that really make it a joy to be in this industry... thanks... robert kim...

»evdo-coverage.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11975707 Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:18:25 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11959071 turbomkt : I'm working off of EVDO right now. D/L'd XPSP2 today. These are two screen grabs of Getright and NetMeter.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11959071 Thu, 25 Nov 2004 23:23:57 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11946913 mnmark : Does anyone know what the make/model of that orange router is, located on the umts-coverage / evdo-coverage website? It has the cardslot, couple rj-45s, but nothing in the pics that shows the manufacturer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11946913 Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:44:00 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11928041 en102 :

said by pp anon:


Just to clarify:
UMTSWorld does not sell anything, it just provides free info.
UMTSWorld does not claim that Verizon has UMTS service

Just to clarify as well - I wasn't raving on the UMTS World site, but the site (listed in another page) listing the 3.7Mbps over EV-DO that was accessable, and Verizon sold
UMTS service...
This is the site not to trust (mostly for laughs)
»www.umts-coverage.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11928041 Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:56:30 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11926836 zduice : A review of Verizon Wireless' EVDO can be seen here:

»nwm.mobilepipeline.com/52600779

"Although Verizon advertises typical throughput of 300 Kbps and 500 Kbps, I saw average downstream throughput of almost 600 Kbps, though upstream performance was only about 40 Kbps. Latency averaged less than 200 ms."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11926836 Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:58:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11911657 dumwaldo : i do not use the verizon EV-DO service myself. i am just trying to help based on some publicly available information. as i understand it the upload speeds are considerably slower but i do not know the specifics off the top of my head.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11911657 Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:00:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11911555 usa2k :

said by dumwaldo :

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... do not expect to ever see anything any better than 500 Kb/s on EV-DO. ...

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And what is the upload speed, and ping times? (Just curious)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11911555 Sat, 20 Nov 2004 08:29:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11911464 dumwaldo :

said by duckxtales :

I just got my card and i just installed the software, but is there a way to have it just start up as a service or start up and connect to the internet without having to see the verizon program?

cant you just put a shortcut to the program in the startup folder? that would start the software but i do not know if there is any clicking involved to get it connected once the app is loaded.

said by duckxtales :

Also the guy on evdo coverage says you can unlock it to download at more than 3+mbits and he shows it on his site too. how do i go about doing this?

the guy was 100% wrong but i do not fault him. verizon seems to make it a common practice to exagerate and overstate the abilities of their system so he was probably given the misinformation from the company.

EV-DO has a maximum thruput of 2.4 Mb/s. thats under ideal conditions of short range, 100% signal strength, 0 user load and basically can only be achieved in a lab test. it is not atainable speed in real world conditions. 3+Mb/s is not possible without defying the laws of physics.

in addition to all of that there is the problem that at this time verizon only has a T-1 connection on the EV-DO towers so even if you could achieve that 2.4 Mb/s connection with the tower the tower itself is only able to make a 1.5 Mb/s connection to the internet.

do not expect to ever see anything any better than 500 Kb/s on EV-DO.

said by duckxtales :

And he also states that you can kill the dormant mode?

wouldnt something that sends a periodic ping to the network keep the connection from going dormant?

peace out,
dumwaldo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11911464 Sat, 20 Nov 2004 07:58:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11910975 anon : Just to clarify:
UMTSWorld does not sell anything, it just provides free info.
UMTSWorld does not claim that Verizon has UMTS service
Sierra Wireless / Airprime wireless card is listed as CDMA2000 device at »www.umtsworld.com/industry/3gphones.htm
or check the google »www.google.com/search?q=%22Sierr···5220%22&
Nobody claims that Sierra Airprime 5220 is UMTS device

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11910975 Sat, 20 Nov 2004 04:11:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11876064 en102 : Take the EV-DO 3.7 Mbps with a grain of salt. I assume that this is running compression of the data over the air (similar to dial up modems running v42.bis). Lets see a result from dslreports.com at 3.7Mbps!

Here's a little more technical insight to EV-DO and UMTS.

»www.umtsworld.com/technology/dataspeed.htm
»www.umtsworld.com/technology/cdma2000.htm
»www.umtsworld.com/technology/wcdma.htm

I would not trust this site... It claims to sell Verizon UMTS service. There is no such beast. 'Order Verizon UMTS wireless internet broadband access & UMTS-Coverage Booster'
'Sierra Airprime UMTS 5220 Broadband Aircard with Verizon Nationwide Broadband Access Service'

Not only do they have their products confused, but this could be seen as misleading/false advertising.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11876064 Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:37:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11875149 adsldude : Moving from Wireless Networking.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11875149 Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:32:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11866129 hlederer : I purchased an antenna from that guy for a couple of hundred dollars. You can get the same one for under $40.00 through links from the manufacture. Go to www.antennas.com. - its the "ARC Freedom Antenna" from ARC Wireless Communications Products. After seeing such a price disparity between the two, I though I would wait until someone posts the "unlock" if there is one.

By the way - the antenna truly improves reception. I went from 2 bars to a solid full signal. For the couple of hundred dollars I got the proper connector to the card and the research that this particular antenna would work properly. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11866129 Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:14:52 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11812329 duckxtales : I just got my card and i just installed the software, but is there a way to have it just start up as a service or start up and connect to the internet without having to see the verizon program?

Also the guy on evdo coverage says you can unlock it to download at more than 3+mbits and he shows it on his site too. how do i go about doing this?

And he also states that you can kill the dormant mode?

thanks....
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