Re: monitor BT? hahahahahahahaha in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r11682253 en Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:41:02 EDT Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:41:02 EDT Re: monitor BT? hahahahahahahaha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11687688 Rhobite : What are you people thinking? Of course they can tell what you're uploading and downloading. Anyone who connects to the tracker can get a list of people on the torrent, and anyone on the torrent can see how much of the file you have. I don't know where you got your legal and technical advice but you're wrong on so many counts. Another issue is that it's illegal to download a file - no sharing necessary. I can't tell you how many people believe that as long as you don't upload, you're in the clear.
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said by hitachi369 See Profile:


Same way they prove that you have 1000's of mp3 in kazza. Assumptions are great, you would have no hope in a legal case agaisnt the RIAA and they know it.

Pictures, most likely covers are also copyrighted. Also assumptions are great, you would have no hope in a legal case agaisnt the RIAA and they know it.


Just wait till BT market share gets even larger, you will see them shift from other networks to BT. It is inevitable, go to where the crime is at.
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No they cannot tell what you are uploading, weather it be 1 file or multiple files in bit torrent easily (if you have ever seen a torrent file they usually have multiple files in one). It is very difficult to determine what a user uploads to other users. witch brings up another point, its the RIAA who has to confirm that u have the file by downloading a section of the file from you, you can argue that They were the only one to receive that data and that you did not send it to any other party. They would have to prove that you did (burden of proof is on the Prosector, However since its a non criminal case it doesent have to be Absolute proof). 2ed you can Challenge the DMCA and say that it Violates the Constitution. 3rd if you happen to own the thing ur downloading and Uploading you can state that it is legal for you to have download a copy of what you already own (then state that your not Liable for what other people do with what your uploading). About your statement "Wait for the BT market to grow" it doesent matter BT is Decentralised and they can only see what you are Downloading at a given time. So at most the MPAA will see about 16 Infractions if your downloading an album and it would take them a while to compond a list of 1000+ offenses againts you (By collecting MAC and Ip addresses Constantly from differnt Music Files being Traded). BT is Pretty safe in my book (unless ur running a tracker).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11685067 Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:59:45 EDT Re: monitor BT? hahahahahahahaha http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11682690 hitachi369 :
said by Omega See Profile:
This is true, but how can they prove the bits and bytes that were leaving your computer are actual mp3's?
Same way they prove that you have 1000's of mp3 in kazza. Assumptions are great, you would have no hope in a legal case agaisnt the RIAA and they know it.

said by Omega See Profile:
How can the RIAA prove that you simply did not just upload the picture data?
Pictures, mostlikly covers are also copyrighted. Also assumptions are great, you would have no hope in a legal case agaisnt the RIAA and they know it.


said by Omega See Profile:
Not to mention, that the RIAA is going after super-sharers, usually torrents contains an album or two, but nothing close to 1000 songs.


Just wait till BT market share gets even larger, you will see them shift from other networks to BT. It is inevitable, go to where the crime is at.
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said by hitachi369 See Profile:

said by inteller See Profile:
Yes, go ahead and monitor BT, this will be hilarious. Seeing as how there is no way they can prove you have the whole file they are searching at you for.


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Something tells me they don't care how much of the file you may be uploading, just that you are uploading the file. Technically you are guilty when the first byte leaves your computer. When the RIAA sues your ass, you can use that argument, and fail. "I was only violating copyrights a little bit"/"I only had a few drinks officer"


This is true, but how can they prove the bits and bytes that were leaving your computer are actual mp3's? Many torrents contain album pictures and txt files. How can the RIAA prove that you simply did not just upload the picture data? Not to mention, that the RIAA is going after super-sharers, usually torrents contains an album or two, but nothing close to 1000 songs.
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said by inteller See Profile:
Yes, go ahead and monitor BT, this will be hilarious. Seeing as how there is no way they can prove you have the whole file they are searching at you for.


Something tells me they don't care how much of the file you may be uploading, just that you are uploading the file. Technically you are guilty when the first byte leaves your computer. When the RIAA sues your ass, you can use that argument, and fail. "I was only violating copyrights a little bit"/"I only had a few drinks officer"

said by inteller See Profile:
I think an enhancement to the BT system needs to be a final chunk that is sent via PGP so you can only put pieces together between trusted peers.


Ignoring the fact that they don't care if you only share 1/2 the file or 100%, Who decides who's trusted? You? Some random person who created the torrent? Some website you find on the web?

Newsgrous, IRC, or FTP are your safest and fastest way to get what you want.
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I think an enhancement to the BT system needs to be a final chunk that is sent via PGP so you can only put pieces together between trusted peers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11681760 Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:49:44 EDT