Re: My FIOS install in Verizon Fiber Optics http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r11561280 en Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:20:00 EDT Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:20:00 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12602840 PGHammer : The *only* reason you see a lot of 192.168.xxx.xxx IPs is because they are behind *routers*. Every router does this, as this particular Class C block is *reserved* for private LANs (the limit is a possible 64,770 devices behind this particular Class C; this is far more IPs than any home, small business, or even most large businesses, would use at any one site). The preference for this sort of IP is typical with routers and is not unique to FIOS (in fact, my own computer's IP falls in this range, with the router handling NAT (network address translation), as is normal, and I have CHSI + my own router).

So, relax.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12602840 Mon, 07 Feb 2005 03:32:15 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12558823 johnsp :
said by Tzale See Profile:

said by johnsp See Profile:

Realistically, you'll never see symmetrical speeds and static IP's. If this were provided, the entire revenue from commercial T1, T3 lines would collapse. Why would any company continue to pay thousands a month when the same capacity was available with residential Fios? Fios will suffer the same issues seen in cable systems, and DSL: over subscription. Hopefully the fiber transport will allow for quick upgrades as technology progresses and the price drops.
The price of T1's and T3's will drastically drop over the upcoming years as FIOS becomes available to more people. The reason is because people will say "Why am I paying $1,000/month when I can get 20X more bandwidth for $200-300 (business prices not known yet)." People will SERIOUSLY consider dropping T1's if you get that much more bandwidth, is the $1,000/month REALLY worth that added protection of an SLA? For a lot of small business's I bet they will be thinking about this. If they drop the prices of T1's and T3's then the people will say hey an extra $100 or so per month for a T1 with 20X less bandwidth but a SLA might be good for me.

-Tzale
Residential service will always be asymmetrical, only one dynamic IP with PPPoE, and no SLA and no DNS hosting. It's the only way to keep business class service fees coming in. No provider would survive on a Fios pricing model for business class services. VZ should recoup a big savings in maintenance. One fiber cable into a location would be able to support a huge range of services rather then requiring multiple copper lines. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12558823 Wed, 02 Feb 2005 09:32:52 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12553619 Woof Woof :
said by Tzale See Profile:

The thing is that ALL residential services are oversold. It just happens that this occurs in the CO for FIOS.

-Tzale
Agreed. It is much better to have the bottleneck at the CO rather than the cable node. If your cable node is congested with traffic, it doesn't matter what bandwidth the CO has out to the cloud. With FIOS, you compete with everyone equally, with cable, you compete with your neighbors.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12553619 Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:27:55 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12552687 jwersan : Another reason may be that Verizon wants to move its business customers over to a FIOS like feed. Getting a T1 to a customer requires several levels of hardware to provision the line down to the T1 pipe. By moving businesses over to a pipe larger than a T3 via fiber may actually be cheaper to implement.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12552687 Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:50:17 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12551934 Tzale :
said by johnsp See Profile:

Realistically, you'll never see symmetrical speeds and static IP's. If this were provided, the entire revenue from commercial T1, T3 lines would collapse. Why would any company continue to pay thousands a month when the same capacity was available with residential Fios? Fios will suffer the same issues seen in cable systems, and DSL: over subscription. Hopefully the fiber transport will allow for quick upgrades as technology progresses and the price drops.
The price of T1's and T3's will drastically drop over the upcoming years as FIOS becomes available to more people. The reason is because people will say "Why am I paying $1,000/month when I can get 20X more bandwidth for $200-300 (business prices not known yet)." People will SERIOUSLY consider dropping T1's if you get that much more bandwidth, is the $1,000/month REALLY worth that added protection of an SLA? For a lot of small business's I bet they will be thinking about this. If they drop the prices of T1's and T3's then the people will say hey an extra $100 or so per month for a T1 with 20X less bandwidth but a SLA might be good for me.

-Tzale
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said by Woof Woof See Profile:

Cable may be capable of 30Mbit, but understand that 30Mbit is shared among many subscribers and can be vastly oversold. On fiber, the 30Mbit comes from a pool of 622Mbit shared among up to 32 subscribers. So, even if every one of the 32 subscribers on that one fiber from the CO had 30Mbit (total of 960Mbit), they would only be slightly overselling the capacity of that one fiber.

It is going to be interesting to see how cable companies spin that in their ads. They will offer 30Mbit, but not bother to tell you your entire neighborhood is sharing it with you.
True to a point. Yes, the "local" node overload is eliminated (gets rid of a lot of problems). The thing is that ALL residential services are oversold. It just happens that this occurs in the CO for FIOS. If Verizon buys 45mbps of bandwidth, they are not going to dedicate 15mbps of that to one customer for $49.95/month. So both Cable and FIOS use oversold bandwidth. They would never be able to provide this much bandwidth for such a small amount of money. The cool thing is that FIOS handles bandwidth a lot better then cable. So what you said to a point is true.

-Tzale
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It is going to be interesting to see how cable companies spin that in their ads. They will offer 30Mbit, but not bother to tell you your entire neighborhood is sharing it with you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12550495 Tue, 01 Feb 2005 12:40:37 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12546378 irev210 : just browsing around and I had to post...

all this talk about cable modem speeds... they are capable of running 30+mbit now, they are just held back by the cable co's

I personally hit 29mbit/sec on my cable modem. I actually hit 24mbit on a single transfer, and this was back in like 2001.

Back in 1996 when cable first came out, I was able to hit 10mbit all day, I was limited by the older cable modem which only had a 10mbit lan.

I live in an area that has fiber up to my door to the cable box outside the house, but it was old fiber, installed in 1995/96... tons of potential even in that old fiber.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12546378 Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:40:33 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12250475 wctom : Regular IP address is what I have! I'm not sure about a static IP. Maybe with some kind of business package, but I have not seen one advertisement for FIOS yet. I think they're putting this whole thing together 'on-the-fly'. Put in the infrastructure, figure out the pricing, and sell it. They'll figure out special pricing and other options later.

You are right about the dynamic address part. If I disconnect, I usually will get a new address. I've only gone through about 4 addresses when I've changed settings in my router, and it reboots. Otherwise, the address has stayed the same for the last month.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12250475 Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:35:02 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12250395 bs259 : For anybody who is interested I have started a new topic thread cable (docsis 3.0) vs FIOS at the following link please feel free to visit and post your thoughts.

»[TWC] cable (DOCSIS 3.0) vs verizon (DSL,, FIOS)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12250395 Thu, 30 Dec 2004 13:26:48 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12246300 Glass2u : Overlay can be unpredictable timewise due to permits, access to easements, obstructions, engineering problems, etc.

Once the distribution network is fully installed, spliced and tested, they seem to get right about the business of selling FIOS.

Keller started selling to the public at about 85% to 95% completion of infrastructure, but it was a special case I think because that's where it all started for them.

Verizon is putting forth a monster effort to get it rolled out as fast as possible, far as I can tell. They are swarming around like flies laying fiber, splicing fiber, installing FIOS in homes.

Hang in there. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12246300 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:59:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12246295 reetz250 :
said by wctom See Profile:

reetz250:

The address to the router is a standard routable IP. Mine is 68.238.xxx.yyy. It is PPPoE and won't change unless you disconnect for some reason, and reconnect. I use zoneedit for a dyndns provider, and it works great.
So you are telling me that you have FIOS with a regular IP? If so, you have just given me the best news on the planet, cause the only peoples that I met with fiber optic were in Italy and with their system they get network IPs as their main IP instead (192.xxx.yyy.zzz and of course then they can network from there in their homes). Their system is called FastWeb, and from my understanding it is set up like a huge network and they can get external IP (68.xxx.yyy.zzz) only with an additional charge and for a limited time (20 hours a month), all things that are very inconvenient if you are running servers. That is way I was asking what kind of IP is given with FIOS here in the States, but have not gotten a solid answer yet. By the way if for some unknown reason you disconnect from the internet you get a new IP, that means that you have a dynamic IP address, any chance you can get with FIOS a static IP and maybe more then one?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12246295 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:58:41 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12245710 inquisitor : how long does it take for the whole process take to be done with? Verizon started laying the fiber down on the 23rd of dec and i havent seen them since. For instance once they are down laying the fiber he told me that are going to have splicers splice to the house once that is down how much longer til i can start using their service?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12245710 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:54:48 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12244936 Glass2u : Yes they do, and then some. The overhead on FIOS is unreal.

I saw the Kellerpoint Gamelab setup and they had 14 countem...I said 14, 30 meg systems all running to one room.

No problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12244936 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:27:04 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12242619 hescominsoon :
said by killerx See Profile:

bring FIOS to long beach california!!!!!!I need the bandwidth for my game server :D

BTW, does any know of 15 mbps/ 5 mbps would be enough to host a 32 player Counter Strike:Source server? Also does verizon mind, if the user ran a game server off the FIOS internet?

congrats on the FIOS install
a 10 slot cs server at a rate setting of 8k works fine under a 384 k connection(only uses 270 max) so a 2 meg conneciton could easily support a cs server.
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The address to the router is a standard routable IP. Mine is 68.238.xxx.yyy. It is PPPoE and won't change unless you disconnect for some reason, and reconnect. I use zoneedit for a dyndns provider, and it works great.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12241672 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:06:42 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12241544 bs259 : yes if they run a dedicated fiber to enery persons houe they should have the capability of almost unlimited up and download speeds/but i cant wait to see that happen, nyc is just too congested and it would cost way too much money to rebuild their system to accomplish this]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12241544 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:44:27 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12241493 reetz250 : Good for cable (wich I use by the way)!, but FIOS is still unlimited.
Besides that it starts you off at 15/5 like our friends in Texas are experimenting, in the future will offer way more than that and with minimal upgrades on our end. The only problem that I could see with FIOS is as it offers a network IP address (192.xxx.xxx.xxx) as your main address. If instead they offer a regular static IP such as 67.xxx.xxx.xx then it is going to be the only way to go; great speed, chances to run servers and so fort so on]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12241493 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:37:00 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12241282 bs259 : i dont know why they presently limit the speeds, they just want to be faster than dsl at least thats my guess.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12241282 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:07:58 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12241223 Pathfinder :
said by bs259 See Profile:

docsis 1.1
Ok then so by the chart you linked to DOCSIS 1.1 is capable of 40mbps down and 10 mbps up.
Is that what you are provisioned at?
No because they would never do that. They won't provision DOCSIS 3.0 at 200/100 either so take the story elsewhere.
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said by bs259 See Profile:

no cable co that i know is running 2.0, i beleive they are all waiting for 3.0
So what are they running?
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said by bs259 See Profile:

Fios looks really impressive so far but, ill just post this
so all of you will know what is on the horizon for cable modem.

cable companies are waiting for cablelabs to finalize the specs for docsis 3.0 and to release them to modem manufacturers.

cable system is already set up for docsis 3.0, right now they are running docsis 1.1 or 2.0.

once they have docsis 3.0 in place they will have the capability of 200+ mbps downloads and 100 mbps upload.

and in case you are wondering if i mistyped, no i didnt you read correctly. 200+ down, 100 up
That's great but according to your links DOCSIS 2.0 is capable of 40 mbps down and 30 mbps up yet you get nowhere near that.
All smoke and mirrors my friend.
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Any info on when it'll be implemented ? Will it be by 2010 ?
And also the prices... I think they'll be a lot more than current rates, and also bandwith restrictions on a montly basis.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12240847 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:11:05 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12240795 bs259 : the system is already capable of handling these speeds, they just need cablelabs to finalize specs and implement everything

ill post some links below:

»www.dvhardware.net/article3417.html

»www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0704/07d.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12240795 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:03:56 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12240773 pawelp : Hmm, sounds promising.
Where are they going to get the needed bandwith for such rates ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12240773 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:02:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12240644 bs259 : Fios looks really impressive so far but, ill just post this
so all of you will know what is on the horizon for cable modem.

cable companies are waiting for cablelabs to finalize the specs for docsis 3.0 and to release them to modem manufacturers.

cable system is already set up for docsis 3.0, right now they are running docsis 1.1 or 2.0.

once they have docsis 3.0 in place they will have the capability of 200+ mbps downloads and 100 mbps upload.

and in case you are wondering if i mistyped, no i didnt you read correctly. 200+ down, 100 up]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12240644 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 11:46:47 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12230731 Smokey : Oh boy, if Fishel is doing the work you might want to up your home owners insurance.. I cant count the number of line breaks we have responded to because of them. :) Lets just hope the crews in your area are better then those out here.
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Just need to know one thing; I got friends in Italy that have fiber, and their speed are almost like yours, not quite as fast but close. Their connection is symmetric, that means same D/U, but that is not important also, cause I would be more then pleased with an asymmetric like yours. What I really want to know is, if your main IP, that one before the router I intend, is a regular IP (such as 67.189.xxx.xx) or it looks like you are part of a network (192.xxx.xxx.xxx)like it is in Italy? If you have a regular IP is it a static or a dynamic one?

Congrats Again ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12229335 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:56:36 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12223715 pawelp : Well all you bastards getting FIOS now I hate you! :)
Well I really do but I would also like to congratulate you
on getting it already.
I dont know when and even if it's going to come Glendale Queens.
Well if infact if it does come here I dont think it'll happen by 2010, correct me if i'm wrong please. Better yet prove me wrong tell me it will be here sooner!!!! :)
I just switched from RR to Verizon DSL and got the promotional package 3mbps / 768 kbps. I'll be happy with it for now. Although the minute FIOS gets here I'm switching, no questions asked :)
Take care

pawel.p ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12223715 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:26:30 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12223565 inquisitor : okay, my family used moved to the next city over and we live in a new housing developement with 27 phrases taking place. I saw a verizon truck installing lines underground and decided to go talk to him and ask him if this new location will be able to have dsl and he told me that this area is going to be able to have something way better than dsl, at that point i wanted to hug him =P. Anyways what exactly will be the benefits of this besides that nice speeds? Like will i be able to have Video on demand etc...?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12223565 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:09:23 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12223121 anon : I was very happy when I cam home from work, about two weeks ago and saw the following flyers on my door. As I am typing this, they are finally working on my street, laying and running fiber. I will keep ya up to date.

Door Hanger
Click for full size
Verizon letter
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12223121 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:12:02 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12201586 anon : I'm scheduled for Verizon FIOS in Rowlett, TX right before the end of this year (2004)... and I remember when Comcast used to freely allow multiple IP's and not worry about the running of "personal servers" -- I hope Verizon isn't to quick enforcing it's TOS ie. "3.6.E You may not use the Broadband Service to host any type of server personal or commercial in nature."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12201586 Thu, 23 Dec 2004 23:15:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12201296 anon : I work for Verizon as a Fiber Support Analyst (the people you call when/if it breaks) and as far as I know we don't care if you run a game server or whatever. Also I read earlier that someone asked if 30mbps is enough to carry a HD signal for video, video and voice are run on seperate wavelengths and do not use any of your data BW. It's all seperated.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12201296 Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:29:47 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12194444 Vamp : but even 2mbit would be a dream, if both people have such connections and good cams they could have a true real time full fps video conference.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12194444 Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:18:20 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12194443 Vamp : when I looked at other peoples tests, someone clames to be capped at 15/5 .. »/archive?zip=&···t=Search

But yeah I think it should be 5mbit upload, it's the upload everyone wants.. I guess they are really just afraid of all the illegitimate uses.

but 5mbit would be sweet for a game server, not saying 2mbit isn't enough, but 5mbit could have multiple game servers :)

BTW, does verizon allow game servers on it? if not that is pretty stupid, they advertise fios as being the best thing for gaming, if they don't allow game servers then it's really no better than cable or dsl (as long as your ping is low the speed it self doesnt matter for playing, 1mbit is the same as 100mbit)
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I can't wait till it gets here. $40 and $50 for Fiber hell yea]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12194416 Thu, 23 Dec 2004 04:00:19 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12194389 Woof Woof : What are you basing this on? Sure, an ISP can reset it whenever they like, and maybe there are routers that do it, but I have yet to encounter either. I've had SBC PPoE, various flavors or ISDN (PPP) and now Verizon FIOS (PPoE) and none have changed IP addresses unless I lost power or tinkered with the router/modem.

Maybe I have just been lucky, but since we are talking about FIOS, and I have FIOS, it doesn't renew every 24 hours with my Linksys Router. Believe me, I would know... I check it every few days.

Of course the first thing I check on the router is to make sure it is set to not idle disconnect.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12194389 Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:49:19 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12194327 kshymkiw : your router shouyld refresh every 24 hours, and should pull a diffrent IP everytime. That is the reason Verizon is set up for PPPoE, for secrity reasons, they want you to pull a diffrent IP everytime]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12194327 Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:18:03 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12194075 Woof Woof : Changes every 24 hours? I'm at 3 weeks and counting. My last change was only because a reboot of the router caused by my changing wireless channels.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12194075 Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:49:02 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12193386 kshymkiw :
said by lmac103 See Profile:

Are there any restrictions with the 15/5 service? Are servers allowed?
What kind of server?

Pointless torun a server from a PPPoE connection, because your IP changes every 24 hours.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12193386 Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:47:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12190631 splicer2 : Just like DSL,dynamic. Unless you want to pay for static. That's probably considered business class or something. Someone on this site probably has a static IP, maybe they will respond.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12190631 Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:11:27 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12185375 tuel : Here in Flower Mound/Lewisville area (about 15 miles NW of Dallas) everyone's front yard is all torn up. Execpt ours. They arent coming by our neighborhood till right after xmas. SHortly after, the Fiber will connect to the CO only 3 miles down the line, and then we too will ahve FIOS. My only question is: are the IP address going to be Static or Dynamic, being that I run a web server and Radio Station...having a static IP paired with 2M upload...I could really benifit greatly. That an drun a game server.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12185375 Wed, 22 Dec 2004 02:59:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12178772 anon : As a Verizon employee for Fios yes we do ;-) And thats not the top speed we offer]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12178772 Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:52:12 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12107571 jasoncoon : yeah I called the other day and the house I am looking to buy qualifies, its in the Dove Crossing neighborhood. So I can't wait to move now! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12107571 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:15:55 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12093609 lmac103 : Are there any restrictions with the 15/5 service? Are servers allowed?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12093609 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:17:37 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12041870 pyrrhusmj4 :
said by socool See Profile:

do you know where I can get a copy of the TOS for FIOS?
I would like to see what they will and Will not allow once the enforce the TOS. I am about to get it in Tampa.
»www.verizon.net/policies/vzcom/tos_popup.asp

The exact same TOS used for all of VOL's residential services. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12041870 Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:38:41 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12041686 socool : do you know where I can get a copy of the TOS for FIOS?
I would like to see what they will and Will not allow once the enforce the TOS. I am about to get it in Tampa.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12041686 Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:12:10 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12028932 Guspaz : I have a server that I pay $49 US per month for. It comes with 1200GB/mth of bandwidth. Obviously using up 130GB in a month on a connection that costs the same as my server isn't going to bankrupt the ISP.
--
NovaSearch, the SuprNova Search Engine: »novasearch.net]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12028932 Sat, 04 Dec 2004 17:10:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11999101 anon : Maximum connection speeds and pricing for Verizon FIOS consumer services are:

5 Mbps/2 Mbps for $34.95 a month as part of a calling package, or $39.95 a month stand-alone
15 Mbps/2 Mbps for $44.95 a month as part of a calling package, or $49.95 a month stand-alone
30 Mbps/5 Mbps for $194.95 a month as part of a calling package, or $199.95 a month stand-alone
This includes free installation and...
• Super high-speed Internet access
• 30-day money-back-guarantee
• MSNŠ Premium Internet Software
• Broadband router - 4 port wired
• Up to 9 e-mail accounts
• 24/7 live technical support]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11999101 Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:10:33 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11992903 BitPoet : how much does it cost?

I'm in houston, are they doing that here?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11992903 Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:53:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11987004 anon : any chance you'd post your prefix? and a round-about address? Atleast the 817-XXX part of your number would be useful.

Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11987004 Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:57:56 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11981219 anon : In homes for sale near you? Or near any of you guys in which have this service.
Seriously.......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11981219 Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:51:33 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11978578 anon : I live in that development. But I've not enabled the wireless. Cat5e only. So it's not me. I count 5 houses on my street alone with FIOS boxes now. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11978578 Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:44:34 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11954062 trailwalker : i'd let the verizon guy poke my fat 'ol lady for an install like that on my single wide. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11954062 Thu, 25 Nov 2004 04:10:21 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11953574 Emilin : ,,|,,

Yes.. I hate you!

*seriously*

J/K .. Awesome. Now if Verizon will bring this service to St. Petersburg FL, I will be the happiest person ever.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11953574 Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:23:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11940542 anon : bandwith? uhm, i donno if anyone has mentioned this so you might have missed it... ITS FIBER DUMBASS. oh, but you say the CO might not have enough bandwith? Uhm, are you aware the national backbone is only made out of 3 fiber lines and verizon usually has 2 fiber lines from location to loacation. i mean, it did almost put lucent out of buisness but, hey ITS FIBER DUMBASS.

like, totally, it travels on light and stuff?!?!!

btw...your fiber is faster than my dorm connection was last year, and your upload is faster than my dedicated is now (im cheap)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11940542 Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:54:24 EDT Re: Access/ Port 25 80 bloking http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11882210 anon : There are ways around port blocking and dynamic IP's... Heard of Dynamic DNS? Port redirection? Chances are you will have port 80 blocked, and you will probably have a dynamic IP. Simple solution is sign up with one of the free Dynamic DNS companies and do port redirection to your web server. Of course you will have your webserver on another port other than 80, but I promise you (if you know anything about security) will be the only one who knows.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11882210 Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:51:08 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11882158 anon : Currently Verizon FIOS is using BPON (Broadband)technology, which provides around 150Mbps. They will use up to 30Mbps for data. The rest of the bandwidth will go to telephone, video and "other" services. The nice thing about this, and "Japan" will agree, is that the infrustructure being put in place will be easily transistioned to GPON (Gigabit baby!). GPON is still being tested and re-tested. Once stable enough you will start to see Gigabit instead of Megabit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11882158 Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:46:08 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11861845 eco :
said by PGHammer See Profile:

said by eco See Profile:


said by Integrator See Profile:


There is nothing wrong with using your own. I also have a different router a wireless old B model and it worked fine once you put in your account and password so it can Auth to the server. I just wanted the cheap G router that they offered. I guess I could have waited and gotten a cheaper one, but oh well.

After much testing, I still cannot get the damn thing to give me my speeds on a wireless G laptop. I get about a third of the possible 54M speed.
You know, you're aren't accually going to get 54mBit with 802.11g, right? With 802.11g, you will see about 12-22mBit. This is a result of latency, TCP overhead, interference, etc. With 802.11b(rated at 11mBit) you typically only saw about 5-6mBit.

This should all changed for the better once 802.11n is finalized within the next year. 802.11n will be rated about 540mBit and adds a host of new technologies to keep it as close to rated speed as possible. Until then, if you want speeds above 12-22mBit, you're going to have to use wires.
No 54 MBit with G? Tell that to Starbucks' local competition (a locally-owned and operated coffeehouse that also has multiple wireless Internet stations, which are primarily *desktops*, not notebooks/laptops). I've *seen* the *full pull* on one of the desktops (Netgear wireless G router and Netgear PCI wireless G NICs; it was the first I had heard of G for desktops) and it is no slower or very little slower than wired Fast Ethernet for most tasks (I have wired Fast Ethernet at home). However, interference is more of an issue with G than with older protocols (we have a pair of 2.4 GHz cordless phones that would cause trouble with G, which is why I went with a wired LAN for the house).

Interference is the single biggest issue with wireless (not just networks, but cordless phones, etc.) so doing due-dilligence is a must prior to any deployment of a second wireless technology in a residential setting.
It may seem like it is just as fast, but it is not. This isn't really a debatable issue. It is an industry known fact that you can't actually get 54Mbps with G. A coffee house is an example of where you will often get the fastest speed a device can do, as there is little to interfere and often there is only a thin wall and about 20 feet seperating you from the device.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11861845 Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:36:08 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11845442 Woof Woof : Russ, I don't suppose you are in the Centex/Fox & Jacobs development near Central High, are you?

One in a million shot to find out who just got installed stole my channel 10 ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11845442 Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:05:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11843378 Ronnie1055 :
said by Russ_In _Keller:

I also had FIOS installed in Keller but I still think Windows is slowing me down. Is there some freeware apps that is registry safe that will open up my IO? Russ
Russ.. try this site. I have used their tweaks in the past and they seem to improve things.

»www.broadbandnuts.com/

The actual tweak I have used in the past from them is their cablenut software. Good Luck!!

BTW... so how is the FIOS. I am chomping at the bit!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11843378 Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:20:19 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11843044 jonez :
said by Nocnoc See Profile:

If everyone in NY who has OOL calls verizon to request this service and state that they are gladly willing to move from OOL to FIOS, I think that my speed up things in the NY area.

I'm going to call today.
I doubt that will work. The contractors have a schedule that verizon gives them, they work at a steady pace and won't rush because they already have an idea of the demand and subsequent business they'll get from installing it in a given area. That's why they are being selective with where they install fiber in the beginning.

The trend I notice is rich/wealthy, populated and developing towns.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11843044 Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:37:41 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11842964 anon : I also had FIOS installed in Keller but I still think Windows is slowing me down. Is there some freeware apps that is registry safe that will open up my IO?

Russ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11842964 Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:26:08 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11833180 Nocnoc : If everyone in NY who has OOL calls verizon to request this service and state that they are gladly willing to move from OOL to FIOS, I think that my speed up things in the NY area.

I'm going to call today.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11833180 Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:52:25 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11832272 PGHammer : There is a reason he has a Comcast IP...he lives in Prince George's County, MD (a county where DSL penetration is low due to a preponderance of MDUs in the higher-pop areas, and a thick rural fringe) and Comcast HSI is rampant. In fact, he is off the Marlboro-Ritchie Road headend (roughly between Forestville and Landover) which is the central CHSI headend for south-central Prince George's County, and the primary *video* headend for the entire county). I have heard nada about FIOS for Prince George's County (however, Montgomery County is being wired for FIOS now). Like Prince George's County, Montgomery County is heavily penetrated by Comcast HSI (Starpower is also there as an overbuilder in parts of Montgomery County). Both areas are not only *not* ex-GTE, both are in fact legacy BA (originally C&P Telephone); it took until 2001 to get the Bell Atlantic name off all the trucks!

The primary telco regulator is the Public Service Commission of Maryland (»www.psc.state.md.us) and Verizon is the ILEC statewide. I may search to see what tariffs that Verizon has filed regarding FIOS.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11832272 Thu, 11 Nov 2004 06:27:59 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11832219 PGHammer :
said by eco See Profile:

said by Integrator See Profile:

There is nothing wrong with using your own. I also have a different router a wireless old B model and it worked fine once you put in your account and password so it can Auth to the server. I just wanted the cheap G router that they offered. I guess I could have waited and gotten a cheaper one, but oh well.

After much testing, I still cannot get the damn thing to give me my speeds on a wireless G laptop. I get about a third of the possible 54M speed.
You know, you're aren't accually going to get 54mBit with 802.11g, right? With 802.11g, you will see about 12-22mBit. This is a result of latency, TCP overhead, interference, etc. With 802.11b(rated at 11mBit) you typically only saw about 5-6mBit.

This should all changed for the better once 802.11n is finalized within the next year. 802.11n will be rated about 540mBit and adds a host of new technologies to keep it as close to rated speed as possible. Until then, if you want speeds above 12-22mBit, you're going to have to use wires.
No 54 MBit with G? Tell that to Starbucks' local competition (a locally-owned and operated coffeehouse that also has multiple wireless Internet stations, which are primarily *desktops*, not notebooks/laptops). I've *seen* the *full pull* on one of the desktops (Netgear wireless G router and Netgear PCI wireless G NICs; it was the first I had heard of G for desktops) and it is no slower or very little slower than wired Fast Ethernet for most tasks (I have wired Fast Ethernet at home). However, interference is more of an issue with G than with older protocols (we have a pair of 2.4 GHz cordless phones that would cause trouble with G, which is why I went with a wired LAN for the house).

Interference is the single biggest issue with wireless (not just networks, but cordless phones, etc.) so doing due-dilligence is a must prior to any deployment of a second wireless technology in a residential setting.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11832219 Thu, 11 Nov 2004 05:56:38 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11830231 PGHammer : Exactly.

Also, you can deploy services over fiber that you can't over copper due to distance limitations inherent with copper (video, for example). In fact, Verizon's biggest ongoing cost *will* be bandwidth (specifically QoS), as everything else is *sunk* costs (mostly one-time) and are thus depreciable. FIOS will basically *replace* the entirety of Verizon's current CO backbone in stages, with the *replaced* COs being moved further out as FIOS deployments roll inwards (example: Lucent 5-ESS switches in Fort Washington, MD will move to Brandywine, MD when FIOS deploys in Fort Washington). Business T-1 and even T-3 services would be replaced with OC-3 or even SONET services at no additional cost (or even at a lower cost, since mileage trunk issues would go away and all such data services could be resold at mile zero rates in a FIOS area).

This will, however, also force upgrading of clogged non-Verizon backbone simply to keep up QoS guarantees (but as FIOS scales, equipment costs will, of course, drop), triggering vastly improved routers (FIOS will trigger interest in gigabit routers for home and small business usage) and even more possibilities for high-bandwidth data services.

So even areas far down the path from receiving FIOS will see performance increases due to FIOS.

However, FIOS (and other FTTP services) will trainwreck practically any data service delivered over copper in that area (from ISDN to business T-3) and POTS as we know it (including the previously ubiquitous pay phone) will radically change (imagine pay phones that let you call anywhere in the US for $.50/call, which is what a typical Verizon pay phone requires for a local call today in Maryland). The same sort of trainwreck would occur for any sort of metered service that currently uses the PSTN (FIOS rates would instead encourage *nailed* connections, as opposed to metered connections) and Verizon is well aware of that. One *standard* component of FIOS (either residential or business) is Verizon VoiceWing VOIP services, which, like any other VOIP service, is an all-you-can-eat affair (a single flat rate for all the US calls you can make within a billing period). Of course, *nailed* voice services would require more bandwidth; however, FIOS has bandwidth to spare.

Result: All rates (voice and data) would drop to levels unheard of since the heyday of the Bell System, and the only differences in terms of prices would either be extra services or QoS guarantees (whether Verizon is your provider or not).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11830231 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:12:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11828665 PGHammer : Indeed you can. In fact, Verizon is offering VOIP itself (VoiceWing) with pricing similar to the other VOIP providers. What's scary though is that FIOS and VoiceWing is a POTS-killer, especially if you have even two POTS lines with a typical feature set (Caller ID with name and Call Waiting/Forwarding)...and Verizon is supplying the nails.

The Verizon install is *not* for the CAT5, but only for the ONT and wired router. If FIOS goes live in Prince George's County, MD, I already *have* Cat5 installed (which will likely be upgraded to CAT 6 by then) because I have an existing wired LAN in the house. (The existing router is 100 MBit Fast Ethernet.)

FIOS is apparently *designed* to be a POTS-killer; throw in VoiceWing (which Verizon will even sell to CHSI customers) and POTS could be mostly dead by 2006.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11828665 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:26:28 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11821621 anon : Actually they do, The FIOS network is using DWDM and the front end is a Passive Optical Network, hence the only choke point becomes the off load of the fiber onto the CO network. The CO network on the other hand consist of the OLT, the aggregation Switch/Router, and the PSTN gateway device. 14Mbps is nothing as compared to the top speed of this network, and with DWDM being used the amount of traffic needed to actually slow this network down is more then what people can do today. if more bandwidth is needed they just would have to assign the traffic to another wavelength of light and the wavelength would act as an entirely new network. They are now dealing in wavelengths of light determining bandwidth not time or frequency as confined by the speed of electrons through a solid conductor (sub velocity of light). In any event they have the bandwidth to support the 32 customers per splitter unit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11821621 Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:05:06 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11787576 anon : I figured that. It'd be a lot to tackle a city like this. Many people here use Verizon DSL, but we see huge competition from Comcast. It's annoying.

Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11787576 Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:35:06 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11787368 eco :
said by bobthebob:

Two questions

1) What number can I call for availability on this thing? I don't trust the site to be accurate.

2) I live in Plano (Texas). Anyone else from Plano have it?
Your city is being uncooperative with Verizon. There isn't an estimated time when you're going to get it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11787368 Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:06:57 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11787069 anon : Two questions

1) What number can I call for availability on this thing? I don't trust the site to be accurate.

2) I live in Plano (Texas). Anyone else from Plano have it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11787069 Fri, 05 Nov 2004 19:18:21 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11781862 Ronnie1055 :
said by splicer2 See Profile:

you can use what ever equipment you wish inside your house(as long as it doesnt violate your TOS), but vz will only provide tech support on their equipment(d-link).
And... there you have it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11781862 Fri, 05 Nov 2004 08:21:57 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11777118 splicer2 : you can use what ever equipment you wish inside your house(as long as it doesnt violate your TOS), but vz will only provide tech support on their equipment(d-link).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11777118 Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:33:02 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11772894 Ronnie1055 : One would think... since we are actually purchasing the equipment... they really shouldn't mind us changing and/or upgrading the equipment. In my case... I won't be using their equipment once the service has been installed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11772894 Thu, 04 Nov 2004 09:11:02 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11771375 anon : I can confirm that! Yes, I saw the Verizon trucks on Story, just north of 183 the other day. They were working on one of the boxes on Story. Had a tent up and everything because of the rain. Also had about 7 trucks or so. I have been seeing them run the orange cable, but no word on my street yet. They actually have the little yellow flags on our street, but have not laid any cable. I am hoping to have it available before Christmas, as it would be a great present.

How long once they have your yard marked with the little flags? I am getting anxious....very anxious! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11771375 Thu, 04 Nov 2004 00:56:57 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11748916 mosingleton5 : I just went to »infospeed.verizon.net/fttp/ and ran the speed test a few times. After heavy testing I lost the pppoe connection and it took a while to reset. Are you saying that the firmware update corrected this issue for you? BTW I have the 15/2 service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11748916 Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:47:33 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11740293 mosingleton5 : Sounds like the same problems I was having. I would be on a wired computer and then pppoe conection would drop. It seemed really noticable when I got on a cordless phone and a wired computer. It was like the phone inteference crashed the router even the wan side not just the lan. If problems persist I think I will do as you said return it and try the Linksys. I actually work for Verizon as a CO Tech so I will contact the local area manager over the installation group and see if he will watch this thread. Is any one else having the problems with the DI-624 wireless router?? Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11740293 Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:44:56 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11739373 Integrator : Regardless of Verizon not "wanting" someone updating the firmware in a device that the consumer payed for, I updated mine.

I have no problems on my unit any longer, at least with the spontaneous reboots. The firmware that was in the unit was WAY behind by almost 6 changes. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11739373 Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:30:02 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11738660 Woof Woof : My problems with the router was when it is under stress (lots of incoming and outgoing traffic) it would spontaneously reset. You lose connection to the internet for about 5 minutes, and then it comes back up. It doesn't matter if you are on a wired port or a wirlesss connect.

If you log into the router and look at the logs, it would show that it had just restarted.

If you are only having the problem on the wireless (and not the wired) connection, then you may be having a different problem. It may be, as you suspect, interference from the portable phones. I bought all 900Mhz portables just to avoid that kind of problem.

I tried all the firmware updates, and none helped. I mailed it back to Verizon before I could try the last update. They don't want you updating the firmware anyway... I suspect that it disabled their remote diagnostics capability.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11738660 Sun, 31 Oct 2004 15:47:29 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11735358 Smokey : Im on the plane mate!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11735358 Sun, 31 Oct 2004 02:10:59 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11734284 mosingleton5 : What kind of problems were you getting with the DI-624? I just got my service installed last week and I have had lots of lost PPPOE connections. I have linked my problems to my 2 Uniden 2.4 gig-a-hertz cordless phones intefering with the router. When I would get on the phone at the PC in front of the router, I would loose the PPPOE connection. I have tried channels 1,6 and 11 with 1 being the best so far. I had made the mistake of upgrading the firmware and still had the problems. It is advised not to upgrade the firmware because of possable conflicts. I am about ready to can the 2.4 phones and either go to 5.4 or back to 900 MHZ. Other than that the speed is pretty awesome and I only have the 5/2 right now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11734284 Sat, 30 Oct 2004 23:43:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11733306 Integrator : I use DVD Decrypter to burn the .iso onto the dvd. I use DVD Shrink as a seperate utility to copy my own DVD's before my kids destroy them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11733306 Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:25:43 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11730618 rakswp :
said by Integrator See Profile:

Cool, I may have found a new hobby, LOL. What are the expected speeds that everyone else "gets", as in the normal what you expect thing?

First movie almost completed. Hopefully, DVD shrink can putthis on disc for me?
the stuff you download from alt.binaries.dvd is already in an iso format and the movie is encoded to fit on the DVD..are you using DVDShrink to burn the iso or are you extract the vobs out and then re-shrinking it? i seriously hope it is not the latter]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11730618 Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:04:47 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11723819 anon : all web browsers show you the speed in bytes not bits. in fact all computer programs go by byte not bit. the file system is shown in bytes. so as to ur question as to why IE shows it in bytes instead of bits, I think u got ur answer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11723819 Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:12:09 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11723052 mboy : Yeah they do.

BTW, what is their TOS on hosting servers and such? I will drop OOL for the 15/2 for the same price in a heartbeat!
I probably won't have it avail to me for a couple of years tho.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11723052 Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:50:07 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11711261 anon : Move to sweden and get it over with.
100mbit up 100 mbit down no blocked ports 30$/month.
That's rj45 in the wall folks.
Click for full size
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11711261 Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:44:04 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11705504 anon : IE uses megabytes per sec ? you'd think it would use megabit like everything else.

Yes, 5 megabit is not as fast as 14.08 megabit :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11705504 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:07:33 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11703537 hp550c : 540KB / sec is not faster than 1.76MB / sec ;)

»/r0/download/6···Test.gif]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11703537 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:44:19 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11703356 eco : Some of the screenshots you saw much have been from people not on FIOS then.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11703356 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:24:28 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11703252 anon : I get better results on that file than some of the screenshots posted - and I'm on $25 cable in canada :)
»coaxial.ca/images/5mb.jpg]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11703252 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:15:26 EDT Re: Access/ Port 25 80 bloking http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11703015 bokamba :
said by Woof Woof See Profile:

said by bokamba:


According to a sales rep I just talked to who said he had been thoroughly trained on Fios, there is no port blocking and servers are most likely allowed. Also, you may connect another router to your Verizon-supplied D-Link router.
That is what the sales rep told me as well before I placed my order...

Lets just say the sales reps don't know anything about the technical side.

You can also get rid of the the D-Link router entirely.
Rats. I was hoping the sales rep had some technical knowledge. Oh well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11703015 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:48:06 EDT Re: REWKET http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11701244 KONG4 : Hello REW. Its me KONG a.k.a. 800LB-Gorilla.
I should be on fiber with in 6 montsh or so from what I figure from the activity I see in my area here in florida.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11701244 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:14:45 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11701063 Ruth Larish : Woof Woof

Thats great info . Now all I have to do is hassle with Verizon . I have enough routers at my crib . No Problema .

Thanks again to all who have responded to my inquiry . I'm new to the forum and appreciate the quick replies .
Ruth Larish]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11701063 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:52:58 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11701029 Woof Woof :
said by Ruth Larish:

Does this Fiber Optic Installation have MAC software????
You may have trouble getting them to put an order in if you tell them you are using a Mac. There is absolutely nothing about FIOS that requires a PC, but the techs have only been trained for the PC. I would recommend that you borrow a PC until the service is installed. If you are lucky, the tech will be Mac savvy and do a manual install. They can do this using either their own laptop, or configuring your Mac to temporarily use their proxy to reach the account creation page. You can't expect them to do this, so having a PC handy is your best bet.

(I run both.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11701029 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:48:02 EDT Re: Access/ Port 25 80 bloking http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11700994 Woof Woof :
said by bokamba:

According to a sales rep I just talked to who said he had been thoroughly trained on Fios, there is no port blocking and servers are most likely allowed. Also, you may connect another router to your Verizon-supplied D-Link router.
That is what the sales rep told me as well before I placed my order...

Lets just say the sales reps don't know anything about the technical side.

You can also get rid of the the D-Link router entirely.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11700994 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:40:53 EDT Re: Access/ Port 25 80 bloking http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11700977 Woof Woof : -Port 80 inbound
-Port 25 outbound
-I haven't checked 139, but I would assume it is blocked.
-Dynamic IP
-PPoE (so, yes, there is authentication.)

If you are creative, none of these is an impediment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11700977 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:38:24 EDT Re: Access/ Port 25 80 bloking http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11700964 bokamba : According to a sales rep I just talked to who said he had been thoroughly trained on Fios, there is no port blocking and servers are most likely allowed. Also, you may connect another router to your Verizon-supplied D-Link router.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11700964 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:36:05 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11700917 Ruth Larish : Hello

Does this Fiber Optic Installation have MAC software????

Ruth Larish]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11700917 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:27:50 EDT Re: Access/ Port 25 80 bloking http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11699423 anon : i have few questions for both of you :

1. what ports are bloked? 80? 25?
2. do u get static IP?
3. any authentication?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11699423 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:21:24 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11699384 anon : Verizon owns the largest fiber optic connection in the world. Several OC 512 lines as of 3 years ago. With the new advancements in fiber transmission tech. the old fiber can be upgraded to over OC 1024 per line, not per trunk. SO yes they have the backend to support it]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11699384 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:10:09 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11699047 anon : Just thought I'd let you know that we all in Australia hate you as well...:mad::huh::D

We're bloody lucky to get DSL at all in most of our areas, let alone fibre - I've been fighting our moronic telco TELSTRA for 5 years and have only just got 1500/256 which I thought was heaven...

I'm now seriously depressed...:p

Moldor.the.Flatulent
(jon@mandrake.net.au)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11699047 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:52:27 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11698967 Facekhan : Technically. DOCSIS 2 cable could run at these speeds but only if the provider allocated one or most of one video channel to each customer for their data services. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11698967 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:30:59 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11698693 petermeyers : First insall in the Grapevine Historic District.

Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 1.54Mb/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 15.00Mb/s]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11698693 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:35:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11698681 petermeyers : Mine was the first in Grapevine in the historic district. Here are the results:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 1.54Mb/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 15.00Mb/s]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11698681 Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:34:17 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11697636 anon : I wish I could say I hate you, but I work with 3 OC48s, now since I have access to these, I know what bandwidth costs, I don't see this lasting at all. I keep thinking about what my high school economics teacher used to say, "There is no such thing as a free lunch, someone has to pay." This is unfortunatly true, while you may be able to get this at a cheap price since you are a resident, buisness owners are being charged for T1s at 1.5mb at rates that are sometimes 10 times as much. This is how we can burst to these speeds on our cable modems and dsl lines, and apparently now fiber to the curb, small buisness pays for it. I will definatly have to re-negotiate some contracts if this becomes the norm... wtf am I saying, I do hate you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11697636 Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:33:16 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11697450 jnkyrddog : In reference to splitting the cat5 with pots and data.
Ideally, splitting the cat5 for pots and data is a no-no, but suppose there is only one cat5 going into the two story residence and no logical way to get another set of cat5 inside where the router would be placed. Wrapping cat5 around the outside of the house is not an option. Eliminating pots service going into the home is not an option either.

I'm sure others would be interested in a magical solution to a dilemma such as this.

jnkyrddog]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11697450 Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:14:12 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11697374 anon : lol when everyone gets fiber
RIAA & MPAA
are going to have a nightmare trying to control
p2p groups i can see it now :D

vote for John Kerry

bush suck's by default
bush = dial up ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11697374 Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:05:16 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11697213 anon : wow what kind of speeds do you get with »www.rateless.com.nyud.net:8090/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11697213 Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:48:40 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11697181 anon : wow, very nice. kind of pathetic tho, that us americans are having a cow over 15Mbps download when in places like japan they get 100Mbps+ both ways. either way, i can't wait to pay $50 a month for a 15/2 connection.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11697181 Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:44:39 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11696966 usbbtech : Hey .. Thanks for the pics , it shows me the training therefore lack of sufficient training that technician received. I see a few red flags on his installation and one major one he did by splitting the ethernet CAT V connection along with POTS service , this is a real no-no ... Guess I'm gonna have to see if I can get a hold of that field ops trainer ...

BTW ~ Former VZ Emerging Technology field tech.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11696966 Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:23:19 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11696939 infiniteedge : does anyone know if ports are blocked on FIOS? Someone commented earlier that port 80 is blocked, is that true? Can you post the entire terms of service? Bandwidth caps?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11696939 Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:20:34 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11696557 anon : "Everyone jealous of this fiber should start taking classes at an internet 2 network university.

I get 44mbits down and 11mbits up....in my room."
44mbits, but only to the internet2...
Come over here to Korea, 80mbits+ to everything out there :D ('cept the i2 of course...)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11696557 Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:33:21 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11696437 anon : Everyone jealous of this fiber should start taking classes at an internet 2 network university.

I get 44mbits down and 11mbits up....in my room.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11696437 Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:19:24 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11696315 anon : RCN in Redwood City California has 3mbps internet and i downloaded a cd to my desktop in about 12 minutes. It speeds up faster the longer i am connected!

Do I really need fiber?

--usacyberbob]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11696315 Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:06:30 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11693792 Glitched : Before the wires can be 'lit' does there have to be a refrigerator-sized box on practically every other pole?

Because here in NY, Rockland, New City, FIOS/FTTP/whatever wires (they have red tags that say Verizon on them) are EVERYWHERE here. But I only found one fridge-sized box hanging looow on a pole a minute or two away from my house just off a double yellow road and in my general residential area. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11693792 Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:31:35 EDT My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11683330 SquareSlinky : I just went out of my house and on the door is notice that Verizon will be digging to lay fiber outside within the next 5 days. I am 1 step closer to FIOS!

And when it is available, the only beep beep you will hear at my house is me beeping at RR to close my account. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11683330 Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:34:46 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11681790 anon : I am watching the workers out front lay the pipe for fiber now...Coming to Irving Texas very soon!!! YEAH!!!

They said the fiber will be lit and ready for use by the end of the year. Cannot wait!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11681790 Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:54:52 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11648164 Ronnie1055 :
said by canecorso See Profile:
Yes it reset my Linksys to 1492 and yes it uses PPOE.


Thanks canecorso... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11648164 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:25:45 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11648038 canecorso : I went back to my Linksys (and changed the channel), the speeds are better and seem to be more consistent. I think I am going to update the firmware on the D-Link and see what happens.

Yes it reset my Linksys to 1492 and yes it uses PPOE.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11648038 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:07:20 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11647934 Woof Woof : Gameserver traceroutes for rewket...

Tracing route to mayhem.clanisb.org [208.185.25.25] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 10.33.3.1
3 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms P6-4.LCR-01.DLLSTX.verizon-gni.net [130.81.25.73]
4 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms so-6-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.ASH.verizon-gni.net [130.81.10.90]
5 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 130.81.15.42
6 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms so-4-0-0.mpr2.iad2.us.above.net [64.125.30.122]
7 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms so-4-0-0.cr1.iad1.us.above.net [64.125.28.213]
8 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms pos9-0.er1a.iad1.us.above.net [64.125.28.54]
9 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms ninpo.sajnin.net [208.185.25.25]

Tracing route to 64.247.18.32 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 3 ms 2 ms 10.33.3.1
3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms P6-4.LCR-01.DLLSTX.verizon-gni.net [130.81.25.73]
4 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms so-6-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.ASH.verizon-gni.net [130.81.10.90]
5 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms dcx-edge-02.inet.qwest.net [208.46.127.253]
6 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 205.171.251.21
7 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms dcp-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.251.38]
8 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms qwest-gw.wswdc.ip.att.net [192.205.32.29]
9 38 ms 38 ms 41 ms tbr2-p011901.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.118]
10 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms tbr2-cl1.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.10.53]
11 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms gar1-p3101.nwrnj.ip.att.net [12.123.0.33]
12 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms att-gige.esd1.nwr.nac.net [12.119.140.26]
13 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms 3.ge-3-0-0.gbr2.nwr.nac.net [209.123.11.189]
14 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms 0.so-0-3-0.gbr1.oct.nac.net [209.123.11.233]
(Timeouts after that)

Tracing route to daydream.central-havoc.ch [66.36.228.229] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 2 ms 3 ms 10.33.3.1
3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms P6-4.LCR-01.DLLSTX.verizon-gni.net [130.81.25.73]
4 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms so-6-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.ASH.verizon-gni.net [130.81.10.90]
5 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 130.81.15.42
6 38 ms 37 ms 38 ms so-4-0-0.mpr2.iad2.us.above.net [64.125.30.122]
7 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms so-4-0-0.cr1.iad1.us.above.net [64.125.28.213]
8 38 ms 37 ms 38 ms pos9-0.er1a.iad1.us.above.net [64.125.28.54]
9 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms ge7-0.core2.dca2.hopone.net [66.36.224.197]
10 37 ms 38 ms 37 ms vl3.msfc1.distb2.dca2.hopone.net [66.36.224.245]
11 38 ms 37 ms 38 ms daydream.central-havoc.ch [66.36.228.229]

Tracing route to unknown.ord.scnet.net [66.225.236.92] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 2 ms 3 ms 10.33.3.1
3 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms P6-4.LCR-01.DLLSTX.verizon-gni.net [130.81.25.73]
4 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms so-0-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.LAX80.verizon-gni.net [130.81.16.39]
5 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms ge3-0.5.cr01.lax04.pccwbtn.net [63.218.51.29]
6 78 ms 77 ms 77 ms pos4-0.br01.chc01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.4.66]
7 78 ms 77 ms 78 ms ge2-3-1-450.j1.ord.scnet.net [64.202.110.33]
8 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms gebr1-fa0-1.eqx.ord1.interquad.net [64.202.111.61]
9 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms unknown.ord.scnet.net [66.225.236.92]

Tracing route to nexus.layertek.com [65.125.236.58] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 2 ms 3 ms 10.33.3.1
3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms P6-4.LCR-01.DLLSTX.verizon-gni.net [130.81.25.73]
4 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms so-6-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.ASH.verizon-gni.net [130.81.10.90]
5 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms dcx-edge-02.inet.qwest.net [208.46.127.253]
6 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 205.171.251.13
7 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms dca-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.221]
8 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms dca-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.9.54]
9 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms so0-1-0-622M.ar3.wdc2.gblx.net [208.51.74.9]
10 43 ms 42 ms 43 ms so3-0-0-2488M.ar1.jfk1.gblx.net [67.17.72.18]
11 43 ms 42 ms 43 ms 64.214.128.174
12 45 ms 45 ms 46 ms 65.125.239.146
13 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms nexus.layertek.com [65.125.236.58]

Tracing route to fragism.com [64.237.35.223] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 10.33.3.1
3 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms P6-4.LCR-01.DLLSTX.verizon-gni.net [130.81.25.73]
4 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms so-0-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.DFW80.verizon-gni.net [130.81.16.31]
5 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms so-5-1-0-0.gar2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.78.234.1]
6 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms ae-1-56.bbr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.161]
7 43 ms 43 ms 42 ms 4.68.128.145
8 43 ms 43 ms 43 ms ge-6-0-0.gar1.Newark1.Level3.net [4.68.121.218]
9 43 ms 43 ms 43 ms 4.79.236.6
10 51 ms 42 ms 42 ms gi4-12-5.cr2.jrcy1.choopa.net [64.237.32.61]
11 43 ms 43 ms 43 ms 626.gig1-1.cr1.jrcy01.choopa.net [64.237.32.54]
12 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms 64.237.35.223.gigabits.us [64.237.35.223]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11647934 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:51:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11647353 Ronnie1055 : Guys... if you want to tweak your RWIN... here is a link that has a fairly good RWIN calculator.

»www.broadbandnuts.com/index.php?page=rwin

So... Woof Woof, Verizon is looking for an MTU of 1492 instead of 1500... that is strange. So I haven't been on Verizon for several years do they use PPOE?? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11647353 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:01:14 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11646218 Woof Woof : Yeh, the router would crash and it would take the auth server 5 minutes to time out and allow a reconnect. Really annoying when you have open connections.

A third of the wired connection? Yeh, that is pretty low. Using encryption? Is the DLink set to normal G or turbo G? I turned Turbo off since nothing I had supported it.

I didn't let Verizon install any software, so the PC is using the default RWIN. The Linksys did figure out that Verizon wanted a MTU of 1492.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11646218 Thu, 21 Oct 2004 01:04:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11645538 LncGmz325 : How can I find out when Fios will be available in my area? I live in San Angelo TX know one probably knows where that is but it's an hour from Abilene.Can anyone answer that? I hope soon I can't wait!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11645538 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:45:36 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11645248 anon : --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

You are telling me they will be offering DirecTV over Fiber? How will this work? Will Verizon get a downlink from all D* and then feed it over there fiber network to customers?
------------------------------------------------------------
This is what the installer said, and it should be avail for early 2005, DIRECTC over fiber, in some sort of partnership between VZ and DIRECTV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11645248 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:13:44 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11644880 rewket : im not from texas but here are some east servers
Mayhem.clanisb.org
64.247.18.32
66.36.228.229
66.225.236.92
65.125.236.58 fragism.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11644880 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:34:58 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11644338 eco :
said by Integrator See Profile:
There is nothing wrong with using your own. I also have a different router a wireless old B model and it worked fine once you put in your account and password so it can Auth to the server. I just wanted the cheap G router that they offered. I guess I could have waited and gotten a cheaper one, but oh well.

After much testing, I still cannot get the damn thing to give me my speeds on a wireless G laptop. I get about a third of the possible 54M speed.


You know, you're aren't accually going to get 54mBit with 802.11g, right? With 802.11g, you will see about 12-22mBit. This is a result of latency, TCP overhead, interference, etc. With 802.11b(rated at 11mBit) you typically only saw about 5-6mBit.

This should all changed for the better once 802.11n is finalized within the next year. 802.11n will be rated about 540mBit and adds a host of new technologies to keep it as close to rated speed as possible. Until then, if you want speeds above 12-22mBit, you're going to have to use wires.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11644338 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:40:48 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11643072 Integrator : There is nothing wrong with using your own. I also have a different router a wireless old B model and it worked fine once you put in your account and password so it can Auth to the server. I just wanted the cheap G router that they offered. I guess I could have waited and gotten a cheaper one, but oh well.

After much testing, I still cannot get the damn thing to give me my speeds on a wireless G laptop. I get about a third of the possible 54M speed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11643072 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:28:58 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11641827 Ronnie1055 : Woof Woof and ELENgin...

So am I understanding that the provided routers are not up to par??!? The reason I ask is I just purchased a new Netgear WGR614 when my Linksys died... this thing works great and I have never seen anything less than "excellent" signal levels.

ELENgin... you make a good point on the RWIN. I would be very curious to see if they (Verizon) changed it.

Please give me you opinion on the provided routers vs. having my own.

Thanks,
Ronnie]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11641827 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:12:24 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11641715 Integrator : Well the d-link router apparently, with the firmware that was installed, had a history of crashed and reconnections even befree the auth server had a chance to time out. I noticed while gaming though.

The new firmware just release on the 13th of this month I think, has fixed that but I am trying to set my stuff up again. I found that the WAN port had been set to 10M bottlenecking my speeds. That got fixed up and my wireless G will not attain the speeds even on a "excellent" signal connection. Go figure.

What is your RWIN set to on your pc that is connected via wire? Did they manually set it?

Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11641715 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:01:38 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11641167 Woof Woof : Might be willing to do Traceroutes... what servers (besides google and bbr) did you have in mind? It has been a long time since I cursed the LPB's so I don't know which gaming servers are hot these days.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11641167 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:06:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11641027 rewket : woofwoof can you do like 10 traceroutes to local gaming servers and known ips as google and dslr
its always fun to see fiber traceroutes :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11641027 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:50:47 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11640904 jbjetta :
I would run WEP and mac filtering at the least. scramble that data.

Anyway, if your running slower try other channels. I know that I have 2 channels that work great with my cordless phone and my bluetooth items. The rest of the channels have lower signal ratios.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11640904 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:37:50 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11639050 canecorso :
said by Woof Woof See Profile:

....If everything you have uses G, then you can disable B in the router and may see some boost. After that, I'd go channel hopping and see if other channels work better.


I'll try it. Thanks. Everything is G. I don't use the encryption, but I do have the MAC filters setup to only allow my computers and Xbox. I wouldn't think that would eat any bandwidth. I disabled it to do some testing and didn't notice any changes. Thanks again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11639050 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:51:57 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11638717 Woof Woof :
said by rockinturbo:
unsure if this question was answered. you have to have something metallic in with the conduit to find it latter the ground rods are for that.

I asked the installer about that when I saw a copper wire sticking out of the ground after my install. The installer said they run a copper wire along side the fiber so that Verizon and other utility companies can locate the lines with a metal detector before digging.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11638717 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:13:40 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11638612 Woof Woof :
said by canecorso:
...and the results are a little better but not what they should be. I am only 10 - 15 feet away from the wireless router. Any ideas?

Have you verified that your laptop is using G and not falling back to B? On my B laptops (Either the Mac or PC), I get about 5400K, on the G laptop (Mac)... on a REAL good day, I can get 13800K testing from pcpitstop.com. On the wired PC, it easily tops 15100K.

If everything you have uses G, then you can disable B in the router and may see some boost. After that, I'd go channel hopping and see if other channels work better. I've rarely had luck in the lower channels... up around 10-11 things are a little clearer for me. Encryption may be eating up bandwidth too... but using it or not is up to you. WEP is utterly pointless, it can be cracked in a matter of minutes. WPA is more secure, but I don't know how much it slows things down.

Yep, I did love the OneSource letter. 10Mbit/768k my arse.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11638612 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:01:32 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11637505 canecorso :
said by Woof Woof See Profile:
Ahhhh, by your pictures you are another to be giving the finger to OneSource. Warms my heart it does.


Yep, first Pegasus now OneSource....it has been a nice couple of months. Didn't you love the letter you received (from OneSource)?

When I connect my laptop via the wireless adapter (have the Verizon provided D-Link router) my speed is cut in half, sometimes even more. If I connect my laptop via the ethernet cable directly to the router, I have no problems. I switched back to my Linksys WRT54GS (I am not sure I got all the settings right) and the results are a little better but not what they should be. I am only 10 - 15 feet away from the wireless router. Any ideas? I'll probably stay with the Linksys b/c the D-Link does not reach my computers upstairs (and all of the other adapters are Linksys w/ Speedbooster).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11637505 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:26:30 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11636201 rockinturbo : unsure if this question was answered. you have to have something metallic in with the conduit to find it latter the ground rods are for that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11636201 Wed, 20 Oct 2004 00:50:35 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11635555 Woof Woof :
said by ELENgin:
I am still chugging away on my connection. I updated the firmaware in the wireless G router they also provided in the package (yes I had to pay for it) and am still working out the minor issues with that

What problems are you having with the router they provided? I sent it back for a refund due to daily router crashes. (The firmware updates didn't help)

The WRT54G is working flawlessly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11635555 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:36:12 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11635521 Woof Woof : Ahhhh, by your pictures you are another to be giving the finger to OneSource. Warms my heart it does.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11635521 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:33:09 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11634090 canecorso : I am in the Villages of Woodland Springs (377 & Keller Hicks).

Here are som epics of the "new" BBU & ONT.

»home.att.net/~toddharlan/BBU.jpg

»home.att.net/~toddharlan/ONT.jpg

»home.att.net/~toddharlan/ONT1.jpg]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11634090 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:10:56 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11631683 Alex G Bell : I guess it would be easy to just put a small satellite dish on each C.O. to pick up Direct-TV and then demux it onto fiber than to build a regional center with several large C-band downlink dishes to get a higher quality feed, but this seems rather Mickey-Mouse to me. Perhaps this will only be an interim step. (In case you are not aware, Direct-TV and Dish Network highly compress their signals [i.e. they use a lot of "data reduction"] so they can fit so many channels on a single satellite.)
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"Remember, Comrade, people who are willing to destroy an efficient telephone system may not be playing with a full deck."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11631683 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:06:21 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11631493 Integrator : I am still chugging away on my connection. I updated the firmaware in the wireless G router they also provided in the package (yes I had to pay for it) and am still working out the minor issues with that but.....I always pull 2Mb on my downloads from the newsgroups which rocks.

I can usually grab a full movie in less than 30 minutes. By the by, I hit 130Gig last month all with no warning letters and only hitting the newsgroups.

3ID "Rock of the Marne"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11631493 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:48:33 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11631306 Idoctor : I'm sure it has been asked before but I can't find it. Where exactly in Keller is this available? The subdivision and/or cross-streets would be great!

Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11631306 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:26:25 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11630275 canecorso : I would say a month to month and a half is a good estimate. It took them a few weeks to lay the conduit and the fiber. Another week or two of them "connecting" everything together. They did the installation (yesterday) about a week after I ordered it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11630275 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:38:48 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11630200 Ren5150 : FIOS is going to be rolled out in Staten Island shortly. Its being built up in Nassau County and all over Westchester. It may be deployed in Manhattan over the next few months. Many issues remain on rolling it out in a large scale city. Also, Direct TV is only a temp thing, once a larger footprint is in place for FIOS, VZ will have its own TV programming, no need for a dish.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11630200 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:29:20 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11629425 ravencajun : They are laying the orange conduit in my yard now and when I spoke to the trenchers and also the FOA Encore people they said possibly a month or so for the fiber to be at my house. For those of you in Keller that have seen this entire process how long can I actually count on waiting. From conduit laying to actual fiber at the house???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11629425 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:04:24 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11629037 canecorso : After I saw them lay the cable and do whatever work they do at the boxes, I called pretty much everyday to check on availability. It was about a week to two weeks after their vans left my area that I was able to sign up. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11629037 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:17:41 EDT Re: Hey ELENgin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11628944 ConstRoark : MEDIAN2K3 said:
He also mentioned they are doing trials in Nassau County in Queens, NY. He said once they have the trials going well there they will release it to the other 5 boros first.


Should that read Nassau county and Queens? If so, that's the firmest confirmation that FIOS is being deployed around my area. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11628944 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:05:51 EDT Hey ELENgin http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11628608 rottentuna : 3rd I.D. huh? "I strike sir" I haven't seen that patch in a long time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11628608 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:27:15 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11627981 anon : To those that have had fiber installed. How long after they ran the fiber to your area did you get notified it was available through verizon? They just installed the fiber on my block and splicers are there, now what is the waiting time?

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11627981 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:07:56 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11627254 canecorso : I just got mine installed yesterday. Apparently they are using new ONT's and BBU's. I was the first house that he installed these on and it took them a little extra time to figure it out (he said they didn't really give them any training on the new stuff). The BBU is two units, the bigger unit housing the battery and a smaller unit that plugs into the wall. This will allow them to put the smaller unit (the one that plugs in to your electrical outlet) just about anywhere, including inside the house. Then they run a small wire to the main unit that houses the battery. He thought the new BBU was meant to be placed outside so they could do maintenance or replace the battery without the homeowner being home. By the looks of it, neither of us thought it could be place outside (wasn't sealed at all) so we placed it in the garage. Also, he said the battery on the new units are supposed to last longer if the power goes out but he wasn't sure how long.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11627254 Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:11:41 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11611874 Woof Woof : No, the installer made no mention as to how many channels, or how they would be fed to us. (All channels, all the time or just the channel you were watching.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11611874 Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:05:36 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11604463 cbs9646 : Hey Woof,
When talking to the installer did he say how many HD channels they were going to offer? Or does anyone know the max number possible over the fiber? I have fios and an HDTV with DISH but I would gladly switch over to verizon's tv offerings if they could provide more than just 4 HD channels like DISH. I can pull in more with an over the air antenna than I can through the satellite which is kind of sad. Also a great price wouldn't hurt...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11604463 Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:58:02 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11604007 Woof Woof : The FIOS installer clearly stated that it was going to be DirecTV over fiber. Verizon has already paired with DirecTV. You can get phone/satellite packages, so it was an obvious choice to use them for FIOS. I use DISH right now, but I am actually looking forward to the switch. I was planning to make the switch anyway to get new hardware out of the deal. Dish won't give you any kind of deals on new equipment if you are already a subscriber. DirecTV plays the same games.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11604007 Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:41:46 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11603663 MEDIAN2k3 : WEll i spoke to a Verizon representative yesturday at the jacob javits center in manhatten about FIOS, he told me an interesting story, he said before the convention launched that they had a board meeting about what products to display and let the public use, it was very interesting.

He said that in the meeting that they were to speak about all their services, land line, voip, dsl, but when someone mentioned FIOS they room went silent. They said just to keep your mouths zipped about it.

He also mentioned they are doing trials in Nassau County in Queens, NY. He said once they have the trials going well there they will release it to the other 5 boros first.

He said that fios is officially launched in Keller TX and that most can get it if they want it.

Kinda suprised me, and i was intrigued (sp?) that he was so forth coming with such information.

He also said they dont want to waste their money on small towns and like less populated areas.

If anyone wants to go there in the NYC area, the convention is on today and tommorow, im gunna head back prolly tommorow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11603663 Sat, 16 Oct 2004 11:43:14 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11599603 nauticax :
said by splicer2 See Profile:
most cable tv companies already buy content from direct tv and resell it. most people do not know that. its just the content they purchase.


I have not heard of one cable company doing this. Can you tell me of one that uses DirecTV and re-sell it? I wish this could be true with Verizon FIOS because I keep DirecTV just because they have JadeWorld (Chinese Programming) that I can't get anywhere else.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11599603 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:53:06 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11599568 killerx : bring FIOS to long beach california!!!!!!I need the bandwidth for my game server :D

BTW, does any know of 15 mbps/ 5 mbps would be enough to host a 32 player Counter Strike:Source server? Also does verizon mind, if the user ran a game server off the FIOS internet?

congrats on the FIOS install]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11599568 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:48:28 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11598356 anon : its sad the real /heavy internet user don't have fiber first, insted verizon give's fiber to noob's damn you verizon you F***** we have being betrayed !]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11598356 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:14:25 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11598062 splicer2 : most cable tv companies already buy content from direct tv and resell it. most people do not know that. its just the content they purchase.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11598062 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:35:49 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11596667 nauticax :
said by 56K TO FIOS:


RE: the video, the install tech says that DIRECTV will be online the first of 2005. I cant wait, I have DIRECTV now but the wether is sometimes a factor. My area was a "Pegasus" area but they have already met their demise selling DIRECTV. Things just keep getting better.

The tech also in our conversation they had done a test on some sections of the fiber the get ready for the HD DIRECTV launch and the results....an astounding 5.5Gps, yep GIGS per sec.

He indicated the glass is only limited at this time by the boxes. As the tech. advances so will the speed.


You are telling me they will be offering DirecTV over Fiber? How will this work? Will Verizon get a downlink from all D* and then feed it over there fiber network to customers?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11596667 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:51:23 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11593219 Vamp : find you a good server? with 2mbps of upload you can be your own server :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11593219 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:18:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11592641 anon : As Woof Woof stated:

Here in Keller I got a letter a couple days back from OneSource, my former Cable and Internet provider. They are cutting prices on their internet packages and going from $50 for 1.5M/128K to $40 for 10M/768K. Problem is, they didn't have the backend to support 1.5M!

I got the same letter today, the day of my install...What irony for them...All I can say is goodbye..

Have not got to spend much time on FIOS yet, but they did check my speeds and it is as advertised...MACH 6 and better..just shy of 15/2

I downloaded some songs for my daughter, about 40min worth of music in about 3min.

The install was about 90min from the time the VZ truck pulled up to the time of my first download.

RE: the video, the install tech says that DIRECTV will be online the first of 2005. I cant wait, I have DIRECTV now but the wether is sometimes a factor. My area was a "Pegasus" area but they have already met their demise selling DIRECTV. Things just keep getting better.

The tech also in our conversation they had done a test on some sections of the fiber the get ready for the HD DIRECTV launch and the results....an astounding 5.5Gps, yep GIGS per sec.

He indicated the glass is only limited at this time by the boxes. As the tech. advances so will the speed.

Now, time to get me a gaming computer..and find a good server..got to do some killin' online...;>)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11592641 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 01:48:11 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11588512 JohnA :
The pricing stuff is interesting. More interesting yet, is that Verizon is apparently letting them resell over fiber, which they are not forced to share!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11588512 Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:36:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11588007 Woof Woof : Talking about slashing prices...

Here in Keller I got a letter a couple days back from OneSource, my former Cable and Internet provider. They are cutting prices on their internet packages and going from $50 for 1.5M/128K to $40 for 10M/768K. Problem is, they didn't have the backend to support 1.5M!

Competition is a healthy thing! Can't be long before Comcast follows suit.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11588007 Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:33:47 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11584453 Walhalla : 56k to FIOS!!! That's like going from a stroll in the park to Mach 6!!! Lucky devil, here in Bellsouth country I can get no better than 28 kb/sec, and that's on a good day:(

So who is the current video content supplier to you folks in the surrounding Dallas suburbs? With video headends now going in and the company saying video will be offered by the first half of '05, I'll bet the competition is shaking in their boots. The FIOS bundle will be the best value by far. Talk about "disruptive technology"!!! I can imagine a mass exodus to FIOS in some markets as the technology becomes available. Initially the Cables will probably slash prices drasticly in those markets, but then they'll have to juice up their plant in order to compete. How ironic!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11584453 Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:57:31 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11582350 anon : Glad to see you had good luck on the install. They will be at my house tomorrow. I do not know anyone on my street that has not signed up. I signed up over a month ago and I am gonna settle for the 15Mbts that should suit my needs for a while. ;>) I will keep you posted, even though I am not a reg here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11582350 Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:05:20 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11574443 MEDIAN2k3 : I herd they were deploying beta in queens, i live in the bronx as well, but the queens one is a rumor i think.

they are looking for small and simple, then they will tackle big and hard.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11574443 Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:01:54 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11571396 anon : How does one go around being a beta tester, I wouldn't mind being one when they come to NYC. The Bronx to be more specific.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11571396 Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:24:21 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11568427 jbjetta :
soon is such a subjective word. if VZ does what it is known to do, I will be the last place off my CO to be upgraded.

So I have a few years before im willing to get all hyped up about this new VZ offerings comming.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11568427 Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:13:25 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11568357 VZInstructor : The network will handle this speed because it's fiber from the home to the central office. From the CO, it hooks directly into the internet. The only place to slow it down is the server that they would be accessing. I have been teaching FTTP for over 2 years for Verizon. My training center is training all of the techs that are installing the service in Texas. The customers are amazed at what they get when we are done with the install and all for $39.95 a month for 5M download and 2M upload. They can get 15M and 3M for $49.95 and if they are really hardcore into gaming, 30M and 5M for $199.95 per month. Wait until video is available!!! Coming soon to your neighborhood if you are a Verizon customer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11568357 Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:08:10 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11566233 Vamp :
said by anwgo153 See Profile:
said by SixOfNine See Profile:
Congrats. I hate you. :)

Brian

same here but Verizon is going to own every Isp out by 2006 :p:o


I for the most part agree. Verizon was one of the laggin ISP's in speed, but now they have come to what I believe is the best isp in the USA.
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:: My current desktop ::]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11566233 Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:38:38 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11564446 djchas :
said by theanalogkid See Profile:
Yardley is ex-BA as far as I know, I connect with PPPoE.
The lineman I spoke with yesterday told me Yardley & Newtown is scheduled to go live 1st quarter of 2006
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said by SixOfNine See Profile:
Congrats. I hate you. :)

Brian

same here but Verizon is going to own every Isp out by 2006 :p:o
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"They wanna see me in my casket and if I don't blast, I'll be the victim of them bastards"..Tupac Shakur]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11563750 Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:48:38 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11563711 yossisiegel : yeah the speeds are nicem but only about twice as fast as optonline on a good day, def an incrase, but not extraordinary]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11563711 Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:40:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11562251 Integrator : Don't hate the player, Hate the game.

The service has been ouststanding. For losing the service all of two hours, they have given a month's free service in return. That little hiccup was far superior to what Charter was ever able to offer me.

My pings are good and my speeeds are always there. This has been a great experience so far.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11562251 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:45:21 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11561316 briand805 : Oh and i thought i was slick with my dual 6016/608 lines..at $45 each---- you are pimp.

You could supply your neighbors with wifi and pay what i can only imagine is a monster of a bill.

Edit: I just read where it was only $50 a month in one post.. omg .. i hate you now as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11561316 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:09:05 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11561280 usbbtech :
said by astamand See Profile:
What model is that APC unit on the wall? Is it a battery or just a cable management piece. I could not make out the model from the photo.

Thanks,

-=Alex


Hey ... Just as (Woof-Woof) stated the Power supply is an APC special product , it's very similar to the one Comcast uses for there Digital Phone Service , it's called an LPSU (Line Power Supply Unit Model#AN15U48D) enlosed is a few pics , the unit has the ability to report any voltage issues , increase or decrease voltage for ONT, and if the back-up battery (which kicks in when AC power is not present and the ONT goes to a safe mode of only allowing POTS service until AC power is restored)is not taking a charge or dead , all this information is sent back through the ONT's maintenance PLOAM packets back to the NOC. Enclosed is a pic of the familiar AFC ONT 610 for Single Family homes , and the 620 for MDU/MTU properties. Just as a heads up for these properties your properties existing inside building cable infrastructure will be used. Either the AFC 620/640 will be deployed in your basement and all services will then be cross connected to the existing infrastructure. There will be some experiments taking place on some buildings , as we no FTTP is based on PON (Passive Optical Network) format which can be at its highest of 1x32 , so this will be played on in some buildings (New Construction). If your one of the properties that has a crappy infrastructure now , you maybe lucky in getting Verizon to install a new or add what maybe needed without any costs being transferred over to the buidling property. In the urban areas it will be interesting to see what can be agreed as we all will see if the FCC truly allows no other CLEC's to ride over the same Verizon fiber installation. If not dont expect VZ to rush to update your infrastructure in the MDU/MTU market ... we shall see ...

BTW ~ Former Verizon Emerging Technology Field Technician

APC LPSU

APC LPSU

APC LPSU
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11561280 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:05:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11560099 IllIlIlllIll : can you colocate a server for me at a decent price ? :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11560099 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:47:06 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11560056 nycnetwork : true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11560056 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:42:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11559988 Vamp : was already posted.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11559988 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:33:58 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11559948 nycnetwork : Can anyone guess whats the ping on the first few hops gonna be like ? 0.1ms? :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11559948 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:29:16 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11559827 MRNVGVUP : That's a pretty site... I did read that right.. 15MB/sec down? ACK!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11559827 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:14:31 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11558188 greendxr : I know that I might be getting fiber at home anytime soon but mean while I'll enjoy my connection at work.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11558188 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:04:54 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11558146 SK : I hate you too. Can you adopt me? ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11558146 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:00:51 EDT congrats http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11558018 testr773 : You are going to love fiber. The 64K question will be where does the pricing eventually settle out for your connection? I have a friend in Vancouver, where a lot of new highrises are being prewired with fiber. He had 18M/5M service for 3 years through (state owned telco) telus. $30 a month and they didn't enforce their bandwidth caps. He has never noticed a service interruption. Now that the fiber service has been spun off to a private isp novustelcom.net, they capped his service at 7M/5M & 10G transfer for $37.50/mo, which still looks awesome to me. He usually uses about 30 - 40G of bandwidth, so his real cost is $67.50. I drool just thinking about it. By comparison I pay as much to get 2.5M/0.5M telus dsl.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11558018 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:45:36 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11557756 mrcowboy99 : They are just finishing my neighborhood in Grapevine now... I can't wait if I get those speeds.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11557756 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:16:12 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11557709 Rexter : I think that you are the speed test site. Set up a server, so we can all test our speed off of you!:D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11557709 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:11:05 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11557579 statecop : WOW!

So...any homes for sale out there? lol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11557579 Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:58:26 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11557392 nerdling301 : I ENVY YOU WITH A PASSION UNMATCHED BY CHEESE
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BTW, field trial on a major city like NYC is pretty insane. Usually field trials are done on small cities for reasons, cheaper set-up etc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11499082 Mon, 04 Oct 2004 15:28:26 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11495608 HEMIDART68 :
said by rpsmith See Profile:
Hi 440,

Bolsa Chica close to Edinger, and Heil close to Bolsa Chica. Always lookin for more. ;) Fridge was on BC, S of Edinger.


fiber huntin we will go! :D
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You would almost think this isn't the verizon that frustrates the hell out of us when I need a DSx... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11494298 Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:19:31 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11494034 rpsmith : Hi 440,

Bolsa Chica close to Edinger, and Heil close to Bolsa Chica. Always lookin for more. ;) Fridge was on BC, S of Edinger.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11494034 Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:43:36 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11492674 HEMIDART68 :
said by rpsmith See Profile:
said by Woof Woof See Profile:
In any case, they do show what harware to expect for apartments and multi-dwelling homes.

»www.afc.com/documents/literature···w(1).pdf


Awesome! Thanks for the link! Man, I am still seeing trucks here in Huntington Beach. I saw a tall white fridge-looking box next to one of them. I'm gonna stop by and say hello. :)


whereabouts in hb?
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said by VZ_Guy:
lick_me sounds like s/he could very well be a Verizon tech


I guess the really bad grammar gave it away! =0]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11484226 Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:09:16 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11478442 splicer2 : Fiber is also much cheaper to maintain than copper plant. As for the restore time,its about the same as copper because the cables are usually much smaller than copper cables,less splicing. By the time a break is found, a new cable is placed, and it is spliced,it is no different than any of our existing cables.Highly trained techs; an educated employee makes for a better company.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11478442 Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:36:35 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11478376 splicer2 : Where did you hear that the customer is responsible for the drop? I need to see a press release or an article supporting that claim.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11478376 Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:28:24 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11469797 anon : :hmm:Light speed for high end computers is the high end customers creed. Is it worth it? Will it last.

High dollar infrastructure maintenance investment, highly trained fiber techs required at every level, long wait time to restore fiber breaks, customer pays for the drop repair... 600$ ea. right? a tough business decision and hard for new employee commitment if it folds. ».. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11469797 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:53:50 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11407525 Woof Woof : I can't find a model number on it either... it is a specialized broadband UPS. It outputs either 12V or 48V depending on the model (I would assume they are using a 48V model for pots voltages.)

There is a battery and power supply in the unit.

»www.apcc.com/products/family/ind···m?id=133]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11407525 Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:07:35 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11407036 astamand : What model is that APC unit on the wall? Is it a battery or just a cable management piece. I could not make out the model from the photo.

Thanks,

-=Alex
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1 - If this is how it will be done, why the F-connector on the ONT? RG-6 doesn't sound like the optimum connection for a one channel at a time, all digital system. I'd believe it more if there were a second RJ-45 dedicated to video.

2 - Wouldn't it be a whole lot cheaper to split off a specific nm band and pipe it to the F-Connector, and then use off the shelf digital cable decoder boxes? I'm assuming that you can take a hundred multiplexed Digital TV cahnnels (ala what cable does now) and push it out on one nm band and then split it off to an F connector at the ONT much easier than pushing channels out onesy-twosy to each and every home. FAR less complexity on the head-end and it doesn't preclude PPV... just makes it a little less flexible.

I like the idea of an all digital transmission, but the one at a time premise sounds vastly more improbable than the "every channel to everyone" setup that cable has used for ages.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11398038 Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:30:20 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11397146 anon : lick_me sounds like s/he could very well be a Verizon tech and, with the Fios roll out going on, may well be in a region not yet served by ADSL for distance or cost reasons. A good chunk of the budget is being diverted to FTTP/FTTH, and I don't disagree with the decision to do so. Am I going to benefit from it myself any time soon? I doubt it... but I can wait.

But, s/he is completely correct: This isn't spare or "dark" fiber we're lighting up, it's new construction, and costing quite a pile of money to do.

Some dated facts:

2 "channels" of HDTV with 7.1 Dolby Digital surround takes 43 Mb/s of bandwidth using Zenith's VSB-16 system, drop that to 19 Mb/s for a single "channel".

Typical light sources for fiber, whose expense is constantly going down, reliability and bandwidth up, were capable of 10 Gb/s, with 10 different spectral widths and center wavelengths, in November 2003. 10 X 10 = 100 Gb/s from one end to the other, and light goes both ways without interference.

5.12 Tb/s (yup, that's Terra) has been done in the lab, with 20 Km of fiber between the transmitter and receiver (12.43 miles for you metric-challenged folks), again, circa November 2003.

FTTP/FTTH/PON (passive optical network) design parameters, in Nov 2003, included taking a single strand from the office end to 32 homes via optical splitters. Shortly after Nov, that number changed to 64, then 128.

"Overbuild" is far more expensive than "greenfield". Adding fiber to our existing network is more expensive than placing it in that new subdivision down the street. Plowing in buried or hanging aerial fiber takes more time, manpower and equipment than pulling it into subduct alongside existing copper, which is more than pulling it into that brand new subduct in the new development.

Video will occur as a "demand" style offering, where the channel you choose is pumped from the office to you on a separate wavelength from data and phone. Why shove every channel available to the customer when you only need to pipe them the ones they're watching? We've already set up agreements with DirecTV and Blockbuster, more to come.

BTW, I am a Certified Fiber Optics Installer, independent certification, not through Verizon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11397146 Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:32:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394584 MEDIAN2k3 : hehe maybe lick_me doesnt qualify for dsl lol

although it is interesting to see this deployed.

i just wish they would move the trials from queens to the bronx, i mean queens isnt a big money boro, manhatten would be, oh well *shrugs*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394584 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:41:17 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394550 anon : lick_me I like the fact that you speak as if you are from verizon but you have a comcast ip.

Glavin]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394550 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:38:16 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394498 anon : look i dont understand why anyone thinks were using dark fiber and lighting it up, were not. this fiber is 100 percent new fiber from the co to the prem. were basically starting from scratch. just so you know. also how can people really be this amazed by fiber. the majority of people who are writing in this forum must have no idea what is capable with this stuff. 15-50 megs aint nothin. thats only because of the technology on both ends. i wouldnt be surprised if were sending and recieving terabits in 10-15 years, if not sooner.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394498 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:32:50 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394418 anon : stop saying trials, these are not trials, this is the service for sale. its not going away. its going to take years for us to finish this. bottom line is if your not in a big money area right now, your not gonna get it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394418 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:24:38 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394023 rpsmith :
said by Woof Woof See Profile:
In any case, they do show what harware to expect for apartments and multi-dwelling homes.

»www.afc.com/documents/literature···w(1).pdf


Awesome! Thanks for the link! Man, I am still seeing trucks here in Huntington Beach. I saw a tall white fridge-looking box next to one of them. I'm gonna stop by and say hello. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394023 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:39:45 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394012 anon : Well, you can search all over AFC's website for the data on the tv wavelength, but you probably won't find it. Their terminal in the office won't be sending the video signal. The video source will actually come from a third party box. Although, the AFC terminal at your house is set to use a specific wavelength, that I don't remember off hand. We still don't know what company will be used at this time in the office. Of all the vendor announcements Vz has made on this project, none of them sell video equipment to my knowledge.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11394012 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:38:01 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11391326 anon : "1490 and 1310 nm - are used to transmit data and telephony services, while an overlay wavelength in the 1550 nm window is used to carry video services and digital TV channels"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11391326 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:21:22 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11390646 Woof Woof :
said by KONG:
When Verizon starts offering TV services over the fiber it will not affect your internet in anyway. One fiber line is cable of carrying several beams of light.

I posed that question early on. I've since found a URL (and lost it) that gave the exact numbers. The numbers are in nm (nanometers) not Mhz, but you get the drift.

I searched all over AFC's website for details and couldn't come up with the numbers again.

In any case, they do show what harware to expect for apartments and multi-dwelling homes.

»www.afc.com/documents/literature···w(1).pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11390646 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:58:11 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11388927 KONG4 : Ive seen several people post questions asking if the packages have enough bandwidth for HDTV.
When Verizon starts offering TV services over the fiber it will not affect your internet in anyway. One fiber line is cable of carrying several beams of light.
The light they use is a Infra Red light source. What they do is pick a frequency spectrum to broadcast over. Now the numbers I'm about to use are not exact as I cant seem to find my resource for it at the moment but it will do for illustration purposes.
Light has frequency spectrums just like analog and dsl does on copper lines. So it something like this.

1400-1550 Mhz freq = Internet 1650-1750 = Tv 2200-3000 = voice data

Now this is not the actually frequency these operate at but is just to give you an idea of how this works.
Your internet will be in no way tied to your HDTV. So you will not have to loose download speed to be able to watch ESPN in Hi-Def. The light frequencies can be carried over the same optic line though. They will end up setting up a piece of equipment at your house which separates the frequencies and send one to your tv and the other to your pc and your phone.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11388927 Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:04:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11385408 Jws21 :
said by kriskuhl See Profile:
5/2 Mbps is 39.99

15/5 Mbps is 49.99
(It says 15/2 on their page, but I'm sure it's 15/5)

30/5 is 199.99

You also get $5 discount with a phone package. Installation is free.

'»www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/Fi···rice.asp'


I'm pretty sure its 15/2 from the speed tests I've seen from some users but if it is 15/5 then you keller Texans really make me sick :p ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11385408 Mon, 20 Sep 2004 22:53:14 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11378145 kriskuhl : 5/2 Mbps is 39.99

15/5 Mbps is 49.99
(It says 15/2 on their page, but I'm sure it's 15/5)

30/5 is 199.99

You also get $5 discount with a phone package. Installation is free.

'»www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/Fi···rice.asp']]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11378145 Mon, 20 Sep 2004 08:33:38 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11376601 anon : Elegin ... im in keller whats the cost???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11376601 Mon, 20 Sep 2004 00:13:49 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11374894 Vamp : well .... Maybe some critters will eat it :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11374894 Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:50:11 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11374584 Woof Woof : THPTHPHTPHTPHTPHTPTH....

As far as I know, all the fiber in Keller is under ground.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11374584 Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:10:01 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11372805 Jws21 : I hope the poles rip out , blow away and get planted in my backyard :D ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11372805 Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:41:17 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11372592 Vamp : Good I hope it rips down all the fiber and it blows away.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11372592 Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:10:02 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11372476 Woof Woof : BSR500: That's ok, you can laugh your butt off next time a tornado comes through here and we lose power for a few days. North Tarrant county, where Keller is, gets hammered several times a year with really bad weather. Several towns right around us lost power for up to 3 days.

kriskul: Keep in mind, the wired router that Verizon gives you free may work just fine. The Wireless router upgrade is the one that seems to suck. If you need wireless, and you want to keep everything in one box, then you are on your own or support. The Linksys WRT-54G is available everywhere.... Probably find it at Circuit City, Comp-USA, Fry's, etc. There is nothing special about it that makes it FIOS compatible. I'd recommend leaving it at the 2.02.7 firmware. The later versions reduce power to the wireless transmitter. There is third party firmware out there for it though.... don'tcha love open source routers!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11372476 Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:48:12 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11371134 Vamp : I really hate you all now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11371134 Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:49:17 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11370596 kriskuhl : Getting Fios installed this week. Where can I get the Linksys WRT-54G compatible with Fios?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11370596 Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:01:34 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11367272 AONE89 : Well im glad to hear a review fron someone with this service finally. Im lucky becuz verizon has finished digging my yard up and is almost complete with my neighborhood. I live a lil south of Tampa, florida. i cant wait to get my 15/2 and play alot of xbox on xlink kai(www.teamxlink.com). ill be throwing my cable modem(3/384 w/earthlink) out the window once this is installed.

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11367272 Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:33:54 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11357279 rpsmith : Kick ass. Fortunately I have a WRT54g as well. Now they just need to get the fiber strung.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11357279 Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:37:06 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11356546 Woof Woof : No caps that I am aware of. Also, the Verizon news servers currently have no caps either.

Hooked up the Linksys WRT-54G last night. FINALLY have a solid connection. Damn D-Link kept crapping out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11356546 Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:04:55 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11356466 rpsmith :
Nope, not in an apartment. If I pass a complex, I'll take a peek and see if anything looks Fiber-ish.


Thanks bud. One other question...any monthly data transfer caps, on either upload or download?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11356466 Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:55:15 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11352548 bigyeah : well sicne its said about 100 times i would go with 3-4 years :( :( :(! im hopeing for 2 but i only got cable 2 years ago]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11352548 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:59:51 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11352519 hytekcomputer : When is this service coming to CT?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11352519 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:56:12 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11348981 Woof Woof : vasq...

I just picked up a WRT54G. I have done all the firmware upgrades I can to the D-Link, and it is still crapping out. It reboots with any heavy outbound traffic. If you do inbound port mapping... STAY AWAY FROM THE D-LINK!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11348981 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:16:43 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11348937 Woof Woof : I did the BBR latency test a few days ago...

»/speedre···/1507891]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11348937 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:12:22 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11347556 camarozz2828 : what sort of ping times do you get?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11347556 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:20:17 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11345733 Woof Woof : Nope, not in an apartment. If I pass a complex, I'll take a peek and see if anything looks Fiber-ish.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11345733 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:12:47 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11345723 Woof Woof : I overwrote the Verizon firmware on the DI-624. The crashing several times a day was pissing me off.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11345723 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:11:25 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11345390 vasqd : I replaced the D-Link with a Linksys WRT54g with no problems.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11345390 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 07:56:57 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11338066 rpsmith : LOL, yeah, I wonder what the backdoor is too. Wouldn't it be typical if some closed proprietary thing like that caused havoc.

But anyway, good news re the admin access.

While I'm asking questions...do you live in an apartment? If not, do you know if they are putting fios in apartments in TX?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11338066 Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:26:09 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11337793 Woof Woof : Yes. The router comes set to the default user (no pw) and you can set it to whatever you want. You have full access to all the features.

Apparently whatever back-door verizon has to the router doesn't depend on the normal web-based admin.

I'd like to know what changes they made to the router firmware for remote diags... hopefully nothing that opens up a hole for a DOS attack or any other security hole!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11337793 Wed, 15 Sep 2004 12:54:03 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11337540 rpsmith : On the supplied router, do you have admin access? Like, can you set up a port mapping?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11337540 Wed, 15 Sep 2004 12:17:14 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11318424 Woof Woof : If you put a switch directly off the ONT, what are you going to use to do PPPoE? I really don't like using PC based PPPoE... the performance penalty isn't worth it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11318424 Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:13:59 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11308283 Vamp : I dont think I would use a router at all, I would replace it with a switch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11308283 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:53:50 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11308071 Woof Woof : I hooked up my OSX laptop directly to the ONT and connected using the built-in PPOE client. It worked... for brief periods of time. I don't have a Linksys to try, and I haven't tried my Netopia R9100 yet, so I can't say for sure that another router wouldn't work. The feeling I got from the installer was that it was the only "supported" router.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11308071 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:26:20 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11307895 Vamp : so that means they wont let you use your own router??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11307895 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:01:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11307680 Woof Woof : FIOS Install completed yesterday. Took about 90 minutes from the time they pulled up. I already had Cat5 to the jack and power on the wall the other side of the ONT.

Only went with the 5/2 plan for now. PCpitstop rates the connection as 4780 down. Speakeasy rates it as 1780 up. Speakeasy couldn't handle the downlink speed and only gave me a score of roughly 3000 down.

Port 80 is blocked.

I was told the D-Link router Verizon supplies does have custom firmware so they can do diags remotely. Pleased that it does allow for reserved DHCP addresses. The installer recommended skipping WEP and using mac address filtering (Which is what I normally do anyway.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11307680 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:29:59 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11292714 somitho : NYT == New York Transit (#) its the lines connecting all over new york for the many many many transatlantic fiber cables, my company has purchased a piece of darkfiber on gblx's AC 1 and 2 so this could very well be fiber crossing over that was inspected before we will get it lit. you may also see LGA (#) which would be metro fiber links going into places like 60 hudson, 25 broadway and 470 vanderbuilt.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11292714 Fri, 10 Sep 2004 01:08:56 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11251967 AJ023 : Its more than a level playing field. Level playing field is needed between cable and verizon yes. I would not disagree. But its also the fact that the incumbent companies gained by the fruits of their monopolies and are so far ahead of their competitors.

I think the system does work best when there is competition and the government doesnt run the lines. HOWEVER government needs to ensure true competition. Maybe they should do what they did with the pioneer program in the wireless auctions with Omnipoint at the time for example. But even that didnt provide true competition because the incumbents are so far ahead of their competitiors.

What the government needs is to figure out correct policy for broadband to stimulate mass competition and investment. Hopefully the moderate republicans who are the true leaders of the party now because they can blast Bush if he wins in 2004, and will when they disagree will help make true broadband policy in congress and get Bush to sign it such as John McCain chairman of the commerce committee.

We ought to work together and start mass letter writing campaigns and then MAYBE we can get it done. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11251967 Sun, 05 Sep 2004 12:18:02 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11251524 Vamp : my question is, is every segment of the network hook to a switch? or is it divided up into a hub type of setup?
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Verizon cant even convert all their customers to fiber for years and years to come. Lets say a whole area was converted to Fiber, Verizon cant and wont install Fiber unless a user signs up for new services that it offers. The cost is too prohibitive to switch basic phone users to Fiber when they will not recoup revenue back to pay for the fiber.

Face it, the copper phones lines will be in the hands of Verizon in this market till fiber becomes so cheap which will not happen in our lifetimes. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11245396 Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:00:36 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11245011 anon : Different companies reselling the same basic service is not "competition" and all it does is increase the cost.

there's no free lunch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11245011 Sat, 04 Sep 2004 12:59:07 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11242580 anon : The alternative is to split the network from the service provider. That would be the idea, the problem then is who is gonna pay for building a new network? The taxpayer? Not likely. Some seem to be confusing VZ wanting no one else to use there new network with being forced to make it available at rates that subsidize the competition. The latter seems to be the case here.

An interesting thought would be to let VZ have their fiber network with the requirement that the replaced copper network pass to the public domain after which localities can sell it's use to others. Something like that might open some real options.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11242580 Sat, 04 Sep 2004 01:34:29 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11242220 Gogo1 :
I can see where VZ are coming from. Cant expect them to invest so much and have other companies freeroll on it. Regulations should at least give them a big competitive edge if they must share the lines.

On the other hand it does seem like the want it all or nothing. Seems like there is a bit of a stale mate developing.

Not looking good for us NYers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11242220 Sat, 04 Sep 2004 00:37:14 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11241547 splicer2 : Force them to build it? How about give them an incentive to build it! Senator Kerry has a broadband deployment bill that he wants to pass if he is elected ,but he wants universal deployment which is great! I agree that the US is lagging behind in this area. Everyone should have this technology from the poor to the rich. Yes, the CWA is supporting Kerry]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11241547 Fri, 03 Sep 2004 22:49:26 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11237422 JohnyJukeBox : They still are. Verizon or SBC or Bellsouth could build the network on merit and bring the US to to the forefront of broadband technology where it belongs.

They don't however. Why don't they because aren't going to do jack until they know they won't have to compete. Fact of the matter is they could sell the fiber to competing entities and force those entities to charge more for the same service and still make a ton of money. But no the RBOCS want all the money. So we fall further behind......

Its a sad story. The government should step in and make them build it or face being kicked out regions where they do not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11237422 Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:15:06 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11237375 drake :
said by DarrellHale:
It won't be arriving in NYC until the regulatory environment changes... only old GTE territory.

New York was served by Ex-Bell Atlantic.
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Well said.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11237345 Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:04:25 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11230062 AJ023 : Rockland County is not fGTE territory and its being rolled out there.

Which specific restriction in New York is a problem for Verizon for full deployment? Im not aware of any that Verizon has spoken out against except related to New Jersey and I forget what the issue on that one was. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11230062 Thu, 02 Sep 2004 18:21:27 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11229735 anon : It won't be arriving in NYC until the regulatory environment changes... only old GTE territory.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11229735 Thu, 02 Sep 2004 17:46:29 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11214791 ConstRoark : I'm skeptical that would be the best outcome for us....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11214791 Wed, 01 Sep 2004 02:15:10 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11214381 MEDIAN2k3 : lol dont say that or my boss will loose his internet and wont be able to play star wars online!!

hehe, i hope VZ puts out all cable systems out of biz with their FIOS service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11214381 Wed, 01 Sep 2004 00:58:19 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11214281 jsmarkbrown : As others have mentioned, Verizon seems to be setting the whole thing up to fail if regulatory constraints aren't removed. Now, if they can only figure out how to put Comcast out of business.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11214281 Wed, 01 Sep 2004 00:44:30 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11213683 anon : Holy cow, thats almost as fast as I get from my cable modem here in Ft. Worth. Keep up the good work!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11213683 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:37:43 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11213387 anon : Vz wants to play the customers against the FCC. They will turn up FIOS in the fGTE area and use the demand by the fBA customers to fix the regulatory problems along the east coast. The different treatement of the fGTE areas is Vz's largest asset over the other failed fiber projects.

Also, technically the only thing shared with the data is the phone lines. The video is completely separate. In fact, the vendor for the video equipment has not been announced. AFC's data equipment today will will be running a dedicated OC-12 to the house and OC-3 back to the central office for EACH customer. In the future, this can be upgraded...to what is anybody's guess.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11213387 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:12:34 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11213254 jbranam : Yes, the router is the same as the Dlink DI-624....54g

Jnky]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11213254 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:59:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11213002 JTRockville : This topic got a link from an article published today at Light Reading:
Verizon FTTP: Plenty of Exits]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11213002 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:29:54 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11212862 splicer2 : Yes,video is at a different wavelegnth(1550nm). data is 1320nm, if I remember correctly and voice is 1020nm or something around there. I've read that the ultimate goal is to use some kind of dense wave multiplexing so that each subscriber can recieve the full 622, but i'm no engineer]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11212862 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:13:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210949 richie111 :
said by AJ023 See Profile:
It seems as though Queens, NY may actually get FTTP sooner cause I was thinking. Would a utility mark a road if they were not planning on digging? Even if its due to sewer lines being moved or gas lines being replaced or whatnot, wouldnt that mean that Verizon would go ahead and replace the cable with fiber anyways since the road will be open and the install fee would probably be the same anyways for them?


When one utility digs, they all mark their lines, so they don't get chopped. Kind of sucks to have a backhoe drop into your conversation running on a fiber line, sort of cuts it short. :-)

you are assuming planning intelligence and foresight. on the second statement

you know what they say about assumpyions...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210949 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:54:04 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210666 Killaefro06 : the directv + verizon price break is 6 bux ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210666 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:29:12 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210624 anon : Dinna know that. I assumed it is digital, or is it an analog signal?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210624 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:23:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210567 Vamp : umm, video is running on a different wave length so to speak, it does not use ANY of the data bandwidth.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210567 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:17:48 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210515 anon : Not sure yet. If the backbone is 622Mbit, and they offer video over it... how many channels can they possibly offer without sucking the life out of 622 or really compressing the crap out of the video? A decent HD channel is 17Mbit, sattelite is probably crunching video down to 2-3Mbit per SD channel and the quality is really horrendous.

Verizon is teamed up with DirecTV, but the price break for adding DirecTV was only $2. Not worth the effort to switch from Dish Networks that I use now.

When they release TV over FIOS, I'll take a look and see what they have to offer. All-Digital plus no rain-outages plus no local station surcharge might be very attractive... especially if they offer HD.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210515 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:12:22 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210387 splicer2 : woof woof are you going to consider vz video services in 2005?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11210387 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 17:54:29 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11209247 Ronnie1055 :
said by Woof Woof:
Yep, in Keller. (Within site of Central High for those that know the area.)

Thanks... I am in North Carrollton and am chomping at the bit to get this!! They laid fiber along Hebron Parkway a couple of months ago... nothing going on in my sub-division.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11209247 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:04:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11209187 anon : Yep, in Keller. (Within site of Central High for those that know the area.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11209187 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:59:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11208973 anon : Just the 5 down, 2 up. I couldn't justify the 15/2 plan since I am most interested in upload speed for family web pages. The rep said there were no restrictions on serving that she knew of.

The package deal was:
Verizon phone + 3 calling features and Verizon LD ($35)
Verizon FIOS internet 5/2 ($39)
DLink Wireless router $68

That ends up $15 less than what I am paying now. Distinctive ring and a second number is considered a "Calling Feature" and adds nothing to the price.

I wonder if the DLink is 54G? My laptops went 54G already, but my old base station is only 11.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11208973 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:39:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11208498 anon : Woof Woof Wot package you goin for?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11208498 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:53:48 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11208206 Ronnie1055 : So.. Woof Woof... are you in Keller?? If not, where do you live??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11208206 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:24:35 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11208073 anon : OMG... I'm gonna fall over... Just got the email confirmation from Verizon.

o Scheduled Installation Date -- 09-10-2004
o Scheduled Appointment Time --
o Product Package -- Verizon Fios Internet Service
o Verizon Fios Internet Service Order Number -- xxxxxxxxxx]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11208073 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:12:15 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11207581 anon : On the phone now to see if I can get installed. They finished putting vaults in our subdivision about 2 weeks ago and finished splicing shortly after that.

I figure they would want subscribers as soon as possible to start payback on the huge upfront costs.

Damn hold music...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11207581 Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:20:48 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11203331 theanalogkid : Yardley is ex-BA as far as I know, I connect with PPPoE. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11203331 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:54:55 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11203167 DJMADfx : I go to DeVry in Long Island City, Queens and I'll report to you if I see anything going on over there. It's pretty industrial over there, so I don't know yet.
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I have a strong feeling Verizon may roll out sooner than we think and will complete more deployments. Verizon made the estimate more conservative probably so it doesnt get burned later on and it makes it look better when it rolls out MORE than 1 mil homes by 2004. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11202642 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:37:15 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11202562 splicer2 : Is Yardley exGTE or exBA?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11202562 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:28:01 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11202489 theanalogkid : I've been seeing fiber for FIOS being deployed here in Yardley PA, more a more work everyday. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11202489 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:20:24 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11202340 splicer2 : fios is being deployed in both aerial and buried plant. doesnt matter. spliced both,your welcome!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11202340 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:07:28 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11201797 AJ023 : It seems as though Queens, NY may actually get FTTP sooner cause I was thinking. Would a utility mark a road if they were not planning on digging? Even if its due to sewer lines being moved or gas lines being replaced or whatnot, wouldnt that mean that Verizon would go ahead and replace the cable with fiber anyways since the road will be open and the install fee would probably be the same anyways for them? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11201797 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:13:36 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11201733 AJ023 : In alot of areas in Queens, I have seen NYT1 and NYT3 markings and markings near manholes and recently patched up road. NYT is likely NY Telephone. I have seen this however on roads which have above ground polls as well.

If you look at pics of FTTP from deployments, some work is indeed underground and road is dug up. So its not all arial, and maybe my area will be good for FTTP to be rolled out or so I hope.

My area is sort of a hybrid with underground and above ground wiring and many multinenant buildings and soaring highrises as well as private homes. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11201733 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:05:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11201376 Anonymous : Is this thread ever going to end ?
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-Tzale"
You are 100% CORRECT. As the electronics improve so will the speed!!!! ZOOOOOOM!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11201231 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:15:16 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11201201 anon : "It'll be available in Manhattan first probably. Then expect to see it in the other area's of New York. The area's that aren't so financially well will get the fiber last. Verizon is interested in making as much money back as possible at this point to further deploy the FTTP service to more area's.

-Tzale"

Actually we are intalling in Westchester 1st. We have already started in Westchester and Rockland.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11201201 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:12:06 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11201149 anon : They will NOT do buried developments 'till all aerial are done. So if the last section is underground to your house ...you are in for a long wait!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11201149 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:06:36 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11198483 JFitch : They sometimes put that kind of shielding up when there is a chance that the cable may come in contact with another cable because of high winds and ect. Most likely this is the case to keep the cable from grounding out.
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I may be wrong though.
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said by AJ023 See Profile:
CrystalSky: Does the Yellow conduit look like the images in the forum from ConstRoark and are they at the top portion of the poll?

Im wondering if you 2 saw the same thing.
Unfortunately, yes. Exactly the same. I just asked a Verizon tech when we could expect FIOS, and he said the next area is Virginia and after that possibly New York. Far Rockaway is not in the near horizon, as the area is not noted for wealth.

*Sigh* :)
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Im wondering if you 2 saw the same thing.

The picture for ConstRoark is an electrical line wrapped with yellow conduit which will not be used for FTTP or any fiber deployment. I dont know why Con Edison would do such, and Im not going to guess. But nevertheless, any Verizon FTTP work will probably be spliced together with its own phone lines rather than conduit as it saves them time. However, there could still be conduit run and that would be by the phone lines as well.

Unfortunately I think ConstRoark was too optimistic. Smaller/newer communities like Keller, Texas, towns in PA, Maryland, and other areas will likely get the fiber before queens. Queens is a nightmare to wireup and its wiring is all over the place. The other towns have more organized wiring. Even Long Island is easier to install. Verizon wants to compete and also show the country it can wire up millions of homes.

CostRoark: If you see any Verizon activity and see cable being strung in Queens then Ill be interested. So far I have yet to see any in my area of Forest Hills except for Verizon vans probably just installing lines for new residents.

If VZ activity is in the area of guy brewer boulevard, or whatnot and you have the camera, take some pics of the work that was done or is going on. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11197496 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:07:19 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11197254 AJ023 : That is not FTTP at all. Not even close. It is not even fiber. Appears to be yellow wrapped around electrical cable, probably a patch job for a downed cable/wire. The top wires are for Con Edison electric. 2nd and 3rd cables are for Cable and Telephone. I ferget which is which and I cant tell from that picture but its easy to figure out by looking at the cable itself.

Fiber looks like thick cable and will not be placed on the beginning of the poll as that is reserved for Electric.

What does the area look like where you saw Verizon activity? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11197254 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:41:17 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11196123 ConstRoark : So I went bike riding yesterday to take a closer look at the yellow conduit I mentioned. I've decided that they're probably not for FTTH. Are data lines not the lowest lines on any given poll?





The black and grey tell-tale boxes were not rigged either.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11196123 Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:38:34 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11192221 anon : So, here are the questions I have--

(1) Is this just for houses, or are they doing apartments too?
(2) Any monthly transfer caps, on either upload or download?
(3) Do you have to have a landline before and/or after getting fiber?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11192221 Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:32:59 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11192211 anon : chill2k66--

It's coming to SoCal really soon. Specifically Huntington Beach. And elsewhere in the southland too, I believe.

BTW, what's with all the whining from PA? LOL maybe I shouldn't ask :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11192211 Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:32:10 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11191892 b00gz : -- Sorry for the double post]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11191892 Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:59:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11189492 AJ023 : 30MBPS only with FIOS only with Verizon and only for $199 a month! Cheaper than a T1!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11189492 Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:09:38 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11189288 b00gz : Verizon is getting ready to upgrade the speeds for testing purposes to 30mb/s by 6mb/s :-D ... I can't wait til this is available everywhere]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11189288 Sun, 29 Aug 2004 16:41:11 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11188202 anon : O man i can't wait for fios... it looks awesome and I have verizon DSL and they've already duck up my street... Haha this is awesome!:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11188202 Sun, 29 Aug 2004 14:07:11 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11187464 AJ023 : Ill keep my eyes peeled for Verizon activity around here as well. Main activity should be on queens blvd if such were to occur in my area but also where the apartments are as well is possible.

Did you see activity by the Central Office or just by roads and where the homes are or somewhere inbetween the two?

For overhead poll deployments:

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There should be a red verizon tag wrapped around which is that red thing you see in the picture.

It looks like a thinner version of some of the copper pair boxes Ive seen on some polls. You will also see devices such as these:

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or something similar. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11187464 Sun, 29 Aug 2004 12:32:52 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11187119 ConstRoark : AJ023, St. Albans and the upper portion of Springfield Gardens would be the busy areas that I have personally witnessed. Again, I cannot verify that they work being done is in fact for FTTP, I am just guessing this is the case based on the information received.

Do you have a reference picture to the black devices on poles so I know what to look for? Is there any other item that would clearly indicate FTTH Rollet is in progress if spotted?

Crystal Sky, I'll keep my eyes peeled for Verizon employees as well. Hopefully, we learn something definitive!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11187119 Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:46:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11186420 Sparrow :
said by ConstRoark See Profile:
I'll start out my response by clarifying that the source in question is a Verizon tech. While said tech might not be privy to the exact date the FIOS service will be offered, he appeared confident that his current project would be used specifically for providing High speed Internet access via Fiber. I asked him directly to avoid confusion. It's also clear that Verizon is fairly busy in Southern Queens. I'm not sure if the yellow conduit recently erected at the intersection of Farmers blvd.and Bedell St., and nearby locations (Springfield Blvd. near Montefiore Cemetery) is in fact fiber for FIOS, so I'll try to take a few pictures and the experts on this board will hopefully be able to identify their purpose. You could check them out yourself and decide: just take the Q85 from Parsons/Archer or the Q3 from Hillside Ave./179th St..
I wondered what the "yellow conduit" was all about. Driving down Guy Brewer Blvd. (or the 113 from Far Rockaway to Jamaica), there is a lot of activity.

Next time I drive by, I'll ask one of the workers as there's always a delay.

No sign of activity in Far Rockaway yet, but I'll be watching. :)
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I didnt realize you were from Springfield Gardens. There does appear to be marked manholes along Queens Boulevard area near me and alot of it says NYT1 on Queens Boulevard which is for NY Telephone.

In which areas is Verizon busy in Queens? I did see multiple Verizon vans around here lately, like 3 at the same time which was kinda unusual but I didnt see any laying of cable or anything and I wasnt sure what those Verizon vans were doing.

If what you say is true, then obviously they will work there way up to here when they are finished since we are in central queens.

Any activity means squat untill we have FIOS available to us.

All I know is if your right and Southern Queens is seeing FTTP deployment then Central Queens will get it next as it moves forward.

Take care and thanks! If we get FIOS this year I would be in complete shock and I think its very unlikely but not impossible. But only time will tell as to when we see any deployment here.

We need to look for those black devices on poles and splicing activity and the like. Im in an apartment building and so I dont even know what to look for since we may not see those big boxes and Verizon FTTP splices. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11185629 Sun, 29 Aug 2004 04:25:28 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11185184 ConstRoark : I'll start out my response by clarifying that the source in question is a Verizon tech. While said tech might not be privy to the exact date the FIOS service will be offered, he appeared confident that his current project would be used specifically for providing High speed Internet access via Fiber. I asked him directly to avoid confusion. It's also clear that Verizon is fairly busy in Southern Queens. I'm not sure if the yellow conduit recently erected at the intersection of Farmers blvd.and Bedell St., and nearby locations (Springfield Blvd. near Montefiore Cemetery) is in fact fiber for FIOS, so I'll try to take a few pictures and the experts on this board will hopefully be able to identify their purpose. You could check them out yourself and decide: just take the Q85 from Parsons/Archer or the Q3 from Hillside Ave./179th St..

AJ023, my comment regarding the wealthier areas of Queens was a specific reply to Tzale's assertion that if FIOS were to be deployed in NYC, Manhattan would likely be the first build out. I disagreed on two points: that wealthy people only live in Manhattan and that Verizon would more likely work with Apartment buildings (which you will predominantly find in Manhattan) than single or two family homes.

As for the confusion over the likelihood of FIOS being installed and offered first to the wealthier parts of [Northern] Queens and not Southern Queens, where the Tech specified, I would agree; I would expect wealthier people who might consider Internet access an essential utility to receive that service first and/or more capable to pay for it to receive it first. However, I do not think the average disparity in wealth between Douglaston/Bayside/Little Neck area (PDF) and Laurelton/Lower Springfield Gardens/Rosedale area(PDF)* is sufficiently high for it to be the decisive reason for deployment in either area. The minimum income above which one could reasonably expect a NYC resident could afford broadband Internet Access is surpassed in both regions IMO. The percentage of people in each district within discreet age ranges (eg. 25-44) is pretty similar, so that argument that younger folks who grew with the Internet (and thus more likely to consider it an essential service) cannot be made either. Perhaps how the level of Education affects the demand for Internet access is this missing statistic and the one Verizon would use if they were to decide where to start building?

In any event, the Tech's assurance plus to activity in this area is convincing (or reassuring). But in reality I cannot be certain that he is correct. Identifying those conduits would shed light on this issue, however.

I, too, would drop TWC in a heartbeat if FIOS were available :P

I didn't mean to give you false hopes.

*Check the NY Times Real Estate Community section for a user-friendly comparison of income and other stats for several NYC Districts. Just select Queens under "Region" on the page linked. The rest should be self-explanatory. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11185184 Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:55:51 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11185134 starcaptor : In Flushing by November?? Sheeeeeeit...thats some seriously pipe-dreaming that person who gave you that date did...If that were the case, this FIOS speculation, following typical DSLR rumor following, would have prob started more than two years ago =P

Whenever FIOS hits Long Island, thats the day OOL is gonna get saccccccccccccked >P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11185134 Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:45:08 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11183568 AJ023 : Dont worry, FTTP wont be rolled out for ages for a vast majority of us.

I dont expect it in Forest Hills, NY for at least another 2 years at a minimum. It wont be in the 1 million homes by dec 2004 even though someone on here tried to get my hopes up saying in Queens it may be up in November. They havent even done any work here for equipment. If they just started it would take months and they didnt. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11183568 Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:57:55 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11182610 Sparrow :
said by richie111 See Profile:
Not everyone here lives in buildings. I live in a house, with a pole right outside. now that can't be that hard, can it Mr Verizon?
...but this is still Far Rockaway. :(

We seem to be on the end of the list for everything due to our proximity caught at the tail end of NYC and the beginning of Nassau County.

Anyway, congratulations Integrator See Profile and enjoy! Someone had to be first! ;)
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said by Vamp See Profile:
dont feel afraid to download 50 things at once :)


Now I know who was responsible for soaking up the internets bandwidth last week :)

Man that is some sick speeds. Elengin if you really wanna test the speeds to a very good pop let me know. I will setup service pack 2 for xp or something big to see if it sustains decent speeds. 14 gig aggro connection so we don't have to worry bout milking a cluster dry :)
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Southern queens consists of Howard Beach, Ozone Park, and Woodhaven among other towns. Those areas are not the most desirable to add broadband to if you assume wealthier areas will get FIOS first.

FIOS should be added in Bayside and Forest Hills and Astoria first and those ares include Western queens where Astoria is, Central queens where forest hills is, and northeast queens where Bayside is.

Anyways, as soon as its ready here I will sign up. Im sick of RCN. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11181720 Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:48:20 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11181581 AJ023 : In NYC everyone can get Time Warner or Cablevision. RCN is an overbuilder. Under existing NYC agreements, if a tenant in an RCN enabled building wants Time Warner, it must be able to get it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11181581 Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:24:04 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11181573 AJ023 : ConstableRoark: Im in Forest Hills, NY another area thats well to do. My mom taught in Bayside, which is another upperscale area as well.

ConstableRoark: Im not asking for your source since Ill take your word for it. However, Im in Queens now and I see markings on the road now for NYT1 and it appears to be parallel to Verizon manholes, by public phones and the like. I assume NYT1 stands for New York Telephone 1. I dont understand though why it looks like the area was freshly patched (since the last time the road was redone, could have been a 10 year road though or older I dont know) since I would have assumed u could roll fiber thru the manhole and not through the road.

So your going to tell me this area may get it by November? I also see a patched area with T/V as well. But, I dont think that is Time Warner (Our cable provider) but Im not sure. Theres a Time Warner box outside one building (not mine) while near mine there is a Verizon box on the sidewalk. Does not look like the space next to the box which says CATV on the sidewalk was opened in ages.

Anyways if your right i will sign up as soon as its out! RCN has been nothing but trouble. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11181573 Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:22:40 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11179699 anon : I've also heard Nov. (for some parts of Queens) for whatever that's worth.

And there are rich or well-to-do parts of Queens at least. The Bayside/Douglaston area come to mind. These are homes too, not appartment buildings which might be more difficult to work with.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11179699 Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:01:23 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11177740 Tzale :
said by MEDIAN2k3 See Profile:
So when is VZ gunna open up this lil tresure in the 5 boros? OMG that would rule to have that kind of connection, say bye bye ool.


It'll be available in Manhattan first probably. Then expect to see it in the other area's of New York. The area's that aren't so financially well will get the fiber last. Verizon is interested in making as much money back as possible at this point to further deploy the FTTP service to more area's.

-Tzale]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11177740 Sat, 28 Aug 2004 05:05:56 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11175210 brainy88 : nov for some li ppl...like meeee! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11175210 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:08:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11174393 MEDIAN2k3 : So when is VZ gunna open up this lil tresure in the 5 boros? OMG that would rule to have that kind of connection, say bye bye ool.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11174393 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:35:36 EDT Re: HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11174372 chntlychgr06 :
said by MrShoop See Profile:
Is 30mb enough to bandiwdth carry a hi-def tv stream?


Just enough. HDTV is actually 19mbps of ACTUAL programming, but then 11mbps of error-correction (cause look at analog TV, it has no error correction and if you dont have a direct line of sight or you're too far away...static. and digital TV its either signal or no, which means if it didnt have error correction, you'd be so screwed).
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said by Integrator See Profile:
Sorry for saying that. I like the newsgroups and I hope the caps are not too high on FIOS.

I grabbed about 30 gigs worth of movies off of the newsgroups. Worked like a champ. I always wondered how people could use so much bandwidth when they taked about caps, but NOW I can see why.


As of now there are no CAPS on the Verizon news servers. So you can download all you want. :)
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I grabbed about 30 gigs worth of movies off of the newsgroups. Worked like a champ. I always wondered how people could use so much bandwidth when they taked about caps, but NOW I can see why.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11173435 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:59:47 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11173408 Tzale :
said by el scorcho See Profile:
said by Vamp See Profile:
ny can already get ool .. they need to work on getting it out here somewhere, or more specifically to me. Comeon verizon, you wont even have to wire everywhere, just run it straight to me.
OOL isn't the only high-speed competition for Verizon in NYC. up until a few months ago i was a happy 3 year dsl customer. that switched with rcn's bundle - phone/cable tv/internet for ~$75 after taxes. the internet connection itself is 5000/~800 and rock solid as far as i notice, a very good deal.


The caps for Optimum Online are 10mbit/1mbit for $45/month. The digital TV service isn't that great. Yes, they are usually the first to offer new products, but the quality of the digital TV iO isn't as good as other major cable companies. Anyway, you can't really compare 5000/800 to 10000/1000. It's 50% more download bandwidth, just how FIOS has 50% more download bandwidth and 100% more upload bandwidth (15mbit/2mbit).

FIOS is the best ISP in the country right now from a major company. The problem is it's not deployed enough yet to see it actually work perfectly with millions of people on the network.

-Tzale]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11173408 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:57:37 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11173390 brainy88 : comming november to me :):)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11173390 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:55:30 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11172134 lilgangsta : Holy shiet...cant wait til I get service like that on my IFITL :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11172134 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:50:16 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11172066 herris : PPPoE Sucks

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said by Vamp See Profile:
ny can already get ool .. they need to work on getting it out here somewhere, or more specifically to me. Comeon verizon, you wont even have to wire everywhere, just run it straight to me.
OOL isn't the only high-speed competition for Verizon in NYC. up until a few months ago i was a happy 3 year dsl customer. that switched with rcn's bundle - phone/cable tv/internet for ~$75 after taxes. the internet connection itself is 5000/~800 and rock solid as far as i notice, a very good deal.
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said by Integrator See Profile:
It wasn't that fast. I downloaded a 4.78 gig movie in a little under 40 minutes. I am unsure if I did anything right or wrong. Winrar is currently testing the ISO.


Not that fast!! You were downloading FASTER than the movie plays!! lol What movie at 4.78 gigs is only 40 mins like that is minimum 120 mins lol:(

So how are the newsgroups working out?
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said by AJ023 See Profile:
Yes but RCN doesnt count.

It counts for those people who can't get Time Warner or Cablevision in NYC!
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It would be awesome if the major telcos and isps merge who are cash positive then roll out competing FTTP system.

RCN under existing management will never succeed, because it does not provide quality services. In the competitive marketplace with Verizon and the others, you need quality and be able to win on price. Verizon can slam RCN out of the water on price and quality and tripleplay services because of Verizon Wireless. Even if RCN were to reemerge, it will not be long before it goes under yet again. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11170175 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:32:38 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11170053 koolman2 : Lucky bastard. It takes me 4.5-5 hours to download 4.78GB. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11170053 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:18:21 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11169208 BarneyBadAss : ELENgin... so.. if u wanna speed up your DL of files of this size... perhaps you could install a water block cooler on your line to cool it down... :D

BTW.. your speeds really suck, cause we all hate you!!! :D

Serriously.... Congrats... I just wish I had similar capabilities here... man... it won't be available here until my great grand children are in thier 50's :( ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11169208 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:45:30 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11169083 DanHo :
said by Integrator See Profile:
It wasn't that fast. I downloaded a 4.78 gig movie in a little under 40 minutes. ...
Lucky bastard. It takes me 3-4 hours to download 4.78GB.
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said by Jws21 See Profile:
said by N3OGH See Profile:
said by Anonymous See Profile:
I wonder how long does it take to load »www.onlycablecan.com/

:)

PA people paid for it but damn Texans got it.

;)


AMEN!

The Only Fiber we'll ever get is from a bowl of Raisin bran .

Somebody pass the mik....


How fitting, we can be all cleaned out AFTER we take it in the...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11168755 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:51:25 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11167739 mbernste :
said by mig288 See Profile:

Verizon bring the fiber to New Jersey.....

They are, you just have to move to Bergen County.

Heck with Bergen County, I want Verizon to come to Woodbridge!
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said by drake See Profile:

NY is majorily served by Time Warner and Cablevision - NYC in particular; Time Warner(Road Runner) is the major provider

You forgot about RCN.
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said by b_zen See Profile:
Congrats! Now, I'm waiting for a variant from Fiber, much cheaper than laying fiber as it uses reg. COAX and can support speed of 1.2 Gbps over the b/w used by your reg. TV channels... That's Ultra WideBand Over Wire.


1.2Gbps might look nice right now, but this network Verizon is building will be able to handle unlimited bandwidth. When they need more bandwidth a simple upgrade of the equipment will allow it. Fiber can handle unlimited bandwidth, it is the hardware that restricts bandwidth. While UWB might look nice now (I never heard anything about it, so I don't know how easy/profitable it is) it is not good for the long term (future). 1.2 Gbps is Mind-blowing right now, but it won't be once all the futuristic devices in our homes get connected to the net.

-Tzale]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11166998 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:15:51 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11166982 Tzale :
said by mig288 See Profile:
How do you think Charter will respond to all of the Keller residents switching over to fiber? Will they tuck tail and run , or will they put up a fight? Has there been any advertisements bashing Verizon FIOS? I'm just wondering what current ISP's have in store. I know when muni's started popping up, providers such as Comcast ran advertisements bashing them.

Your Fiber line looks awesome.. The only question I have is...Why Texas?

Verizon bring the fiber to New Jersey.....


Why not Texas? What makes New Jersey so much better? Verizon is installing FTTP here, it takes time.... Also the legislation here isn't good for business.

-Tzale]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11166982 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:12:54 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11166977 Tzale :
said by Agent 86:
"Fiber sounds like it's a lot of money to install, but like I said it'll quickly repay itself and Verizon will make a profit. Right now Verizon is losing money with DSL, with FTTP it'll be pure profit."

While not completely crazy, Verizon is taking a big risk. If there were a slam-dunk business case, everyone would be doing it.


It is somewhat of a risk, but it should be fine. They will be making a lot more profit after the fiber transition is done. It is going to cost them billions and billions of dollars to do it, but it'll be worthwhile when it's all done. The reason why no one wants to do it is because everyone is afraid to put out the billions of dollars to install and possibly have the entire system crash. Not to mention you have to retrain employees, beef up the infrastructure and keep the system as reliable as it was with the time-tested copper system. Telcos know copper like the back of their hand, but fiber for residential/business locations is new to them. It's going to take time and a "test" run to see it in action. I'm sure all the major Telcos will do it after they see Verizon test it first. Not to mention a lot of companies just don't want to put out the money. Thankfully Verizon is doing that, to get others to do it too.

-Tzale]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11166977 Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:12:03 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11166669 KrK :
said by Integrator See Profile:
2004-08-25 13:48:32 EST: 14679 / 1794
Your download speed : 15031536 bps, or 14679 kbps.
A 1834.9 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 1837109 bps, or 1794 kbps.
What sucky speeds. I'm sure you're hating life now.

:)
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The subs pulled the 48 conductor fiber throughout the neighborhood. Odessa, north of Tampa !
The splicing crews are next.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11164690 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:40:32 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11164459 Killaefro06 : LMAO That's ridiculous...It takes me hours to dl on dvdr
lol you basterd
j/k]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11164459 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:12:46 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11164062 vic102482 :
said by Integrator See Profile:
It wasn't that fast. I downloaded a 4.78 gig movie in a little under 40 minutes. I am unsure if I did anything right or wrong. Winrar is currently testing the ISO.

Between testing hte ISO and the memory hog called GrabIt, it was killing my P4 @.8 Processor. So excuse the picture. The machine was lagging slightly.


Oh yeah with newsgroups your machine will lag, sometimes I have to wait seconds for my start menu to come up remember you are downloading 4.8 gigs of encoded data then you have to deencode it which is 4.8 x 2 9.6 then you still have temp files and not to mention the 200 megs of newsgroup headers for your machine.

Even the largest harddrives will falter to the power of the newsgroups if you arent careful. Ive eaten 120 gig drives in less than two weeks. I currently have 2 x 250 drives and Im running at about 60% capacity:p.
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Between testing hte ISO and the memory hog called GrabIt, it was killing my P4 @.8 Processor. So excuse the picture. The machine was lagging slightly.
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said by Integrator See Profile:
Cool, I may have found a new hobby, LOL. What are the expected speeds that everyone else "gets", as in the normal what you expect thing?

First movie almost completed. Hopefully, DVD shrink can putthis on disc for me?


Usually it comes out in an mpeg so you can just use nero to put that onto a DVD for you, it will have to encode it which sucks. Usually my download is 180-190K and you are downloading about 10x faster than that. For me to download a movie would take about 3-4 hours, I know for you that was about 15 mins?
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First movie almost completed. Hopefully, DVD shrink can putthis on disc for me?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11163545 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:26:09 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11163456 flyingroach : Commence the hosting of torrent TV shows now!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11163456 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:15:46 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11163386 vic102482 :
said by Integrator See Profile:
Let's say I want to "grab" one of these for use. What do I do? Excuse me, but I have never really used the newsgroups before.

Tom


On my look at those speeds oh man WOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!

Youd click on the group after the update is complete, and find the "files" (DVD) that you are looking for, and they will be listed in chronolocgical order.

A little explaination is needed. Newsgroup servers are JUST like DSLR in that people post messages and you can see them, you can also post attachments to those messages.

Now these "attachments" on any newsgroup server have MB limits just like DSLR which is 1 meg or whaever you can upload in 1 min (I think) well what if you have a huge movie that is like 1 gig what do you do?

You use a program called winrar to split that huge file up into 1 meg bits then you use another program to make ONE THoUSAND posts all with attachments in chronilogical order, hence the

1/132
2/132
3/132
4/132
5/132

and so on. What you want to do is go in there and look at the files, make sure that all 132 of 132 files are there, then hold SHIFT and highlight all of those suckers right click and do download.

Im pretty sure with your FIOS the DVD will download before you have time to go back to the status page:(.

Then you gotta go download a program called winrar from www.rarlabs.com

»www.rarlab.com/download.htm

Click ont he beta 3.40 one then install it, and just double click the FIRST file out of the 132 file library.

It will automatically "see" all of the other 132 files (remember 132 is just an example number) and recreate the file as it once was in whole for you, then you can do whatever you want.

There are other things like PAR files and checking the validity of the downlod, but this is just quick and dirty.

Those are some sick speeds man. 1.5 megs down W0W!!!
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Tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11163275 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:53:58 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11163232 Integrator : This IS a ppoe connection that is handled by the router.
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I read that parts of the South West aren't under a former Bell (or baby bell) -- so the line-sharing rules don't apply. Hence, Texas.

Verizon won't do this on the East Coast (former Bell Atlantic and Bell South, etc), until they get the line-sharing worked out. Verizon doesn't want to run fiber to homes and have to share it with Comcast or Covad.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11162489 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:31:53 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11162272 vlad7 : man.. 15mbits would be nice... it will save me a lot of time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11162272 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:09:40 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11162103 nietsni3 : for the people of DSLreports's sake, plz abuse it to the best you can.
and btw, i fvkcing hate you!!!

congratz]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11162103 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:50:43 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11162058 Bytezboy : Dude, is it a PPPOE connection?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11162058 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:44:48 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11161493 alexintexas : Despite the near-term projections, vendors remain upbeat. Marconi Communications (Warrendale, Pa.) has sold millions of lines of optic access equipment that reach as close as neighborhood curbs. Its Deep Fiber equipment can reach more than 20,000 feet to serve up to four homes with three phone lines, a 25-Mbit/s data channel, analog TV and direct broadcast satellite (DBS) digital TV, according to John Gibbs, Marconi's director of marketing for access systems. Marconi is testing the FTTH equipment with BellSouth Corp. and Verizon Communications. Gibbs says the latter trial is progressing well, although Verizon says no plans have been announced to take the technology further than the lab.

there it has on the article
*and note that was with equipment back in 2000]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11161493 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:55:04 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11161424 pcdebb :
said by unixnoob See Profile:
Verizon was in my neighborhood laying fiber conduits and vaults last month. Pulling fiber this month. Hopefully, will get ftth next month!
Odessa, Florida, outside Tampa!
hey man, don't do that, i'm getting kinda excited over here....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11161424 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:47:45 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11161380 Jws21 :
said by N3OGH See Profile:
said by Anonymous See Profile:
I wonder how long does it take to load »www.onlycablecan.com/

:)

PA people paid for it but damn Texans got it.

;)


AMEN!

The Only Fiber we'll ever get is from a bowl of Raisin bran .

Somebody pass the mik....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11161380 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:43:06 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11161190 Goldwire X : Tom, assuming you're able to connect to the news server... load the headers for alt.binaries.dvd and take a screen shot of the batch tab showing the download rate of the headers. If you need any further help with Grabit or newsgrouping in general my screen name on AIM is “Goldwire IT”]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11161190 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:26:33 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11161038 BaselineAce : That's really sweet...can't wait for Fios!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11161038 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:10:04 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11160988 Dude : my mouth in watering]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11160988 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:04:22 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11160673 rbrugman : Here's what we can do:

Step 1) Find out what the theoretical maximum distance for fiber is
Step 2) Find a texan who will agree to get multiple fiber installs
Step 3) Pay the texan for the fiber
Step 4) Personally run fiber from Texas to desired location
Step 5) After sleeping for a month to make up for the lost energy of laying thousands of miles of fiber, enjoy your godly download/upload speeds.

Foolproof plan!

One question though. Is there a monthly cap?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11160673 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:32:05 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11160152 koo : looks like Cali and Florida are next..woohoo

»news.com.com/Verizon's+fiber+rac···171.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11160152 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:42:35 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11160110 drake :
said by rrxpert See Profile:
Because NYC sucks and by the time they laid it down, some moron would probably dig it up out of the ground and steal it.

....If that were true, then half of the wires that do lay down here in NYC would be under guard - As a matter of fact, we already have fiber laying down here in Brooklyn for the cable service(Digital Cable); Fiber to the Cable Node which converts fiber light into coaxial.
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going a little off topic i read that it is estimated that 60% of major metro areas have fiber but is dark :huh: "DAMN THEM TO HELL SBC and other telcos" interesting huh

also on a side note Houston Texas also has FTTH here it is
»www.eaglebroadband.com/services/···ny.shtml

i will try and find that article later and post it
also found this article written "4 years ago" and seems just about right »www.commweb.com/shared/article/s···=8708531]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11159944 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:16:15 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11159901 unixnoob : Verizon was in my neighborhood laying fiber conduits and vaults last month. Pulling fiber this month. Hopefully, will get ftth next month!
Odessa, Florida, outside Tampa!
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»www.directv.com/see/landing/pegasus.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11159475 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:25:39 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11159111 herris : How many ips do you get with the service? I been looking around for this information but can't find it.

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said by LLivingLarge See Profile:
I wanna see results that can be AUTHENTICATED...

He has recorded results on this site. I'd suggest you learn how to find them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11159100 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:38:18 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11159097 vic102482 :
said by Integrator See Profile:
I actually have not tried the newsgroup stuff. I am not an officianado of that, but if someone wants to help me set that up, I can do some tests and show you what BW I get over FIOS. I am not sure if they will cap it as they do for everyone else, I would assume they would retain the caps on me as well.


Go to »www.shemes.com/index.php?p=download

then download the 1.4.7 version then install it, and then after you install it it will ask you for your news server which is

news.verizon.net

Then your username/password this should be your verizon logon info

username: peoplehatemebecauseIhavefios
password: Ipwnedoptimumonline

then it should ask you if you want to refresh groups at the closing of the wizard say yes

screenshots: »www.shemes.com/index.php?p=screenshots

Final steps:

Then you will have to click Update List at the top
Then when you click on the name of your news server you should see a list of ALL the news groups, click the article count to the top right so the group with the HIGHEST number of articles is at the top

Right click that group and click suscribe so you now become a part of that newsgroup. Then when the group moves to the left and appears under your news server right click that group on the left hand side and click FULL UPDATE

Then click on the MY GRABIT at the top and post a screenshot of the download speed. I saw in another article that verizon has uncapped the newsgroup article update thing so this should show your full download speed.

Newsgroups are a great way to get movies and software. It is not P2P as you can see you are downloading from the news.verizon.net server so your risk for lawsuit is greatly minimuzed and for us other lowly copper based life forms it uses 100% of our bandwitth connection unlike kazaa or IRC which can only move at the speed of someones or combined uploads. I like BT better though since the only thing I basically download is anime.

Newsgroups have almost anything you are looking for from college papers to porn to anime to software/warez to videogames.

Just type the first few letters in the "Only Show News Groups that contain the word(s)" feild and you should see the lists narrow down. Also you could go to the file sharing forum and check the FAQ as they give you tips and there are newsgroup seach engines.

If you go to www.nfonews.com and type in what you are looking for they will tell you which group to go to, since there are more than 100,00 groups (30K active), that is TOO much to look through sitting at your desktop.
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I am not bashing Charter but I literally threw the modem at the local office customer service person. I wanted no more of the 135 monthly bill I was getting. I didn't mind the net speed so much, but the tv is god awful. I am going to stay with it though till Verizon brings on the Direct TV over Fiber. It pains me to even say I am staying with the TV portion but I will bide my time and dump them as soon as physically possible.

Here in Texas, at least my region, you have to go through a company called Pegasus to get Driect TV. I have had them and will not do business with them again. So as I said, I will bide my time for Verizon's service.

I actually have not tried the newsgroup stuff. I am not an officianado of that, but if someone wants to help me set that up, I can do some tests and show you what BW I get over FIOS. I am not sure if they will cap it as they do for everyone else, I would assume they would retain the caps on me as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11159011 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:28:09 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158967 LLivingLarge : I wanna see results that can be AUTHENTICATED...

Try the speedtest on www.testmy.net
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said by Anonymous See Profile:
I wonder how long does it take to load »www.onlycablecan.com/

:)

PA people paid for it but damn Texans got it.

;)


AMEN!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158637 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:33:48 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158591 N3OGH : I am INSANELY JEALOUS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158591 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:25:04 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158519 SixOfNine : I wonder about this piece of fine print on the FIOS web page:

quote:
CAT5 or higher grade inside wiring required for FiosSM Internet Service; Verizon installation required.


Not that CAT5 or higher is required, but that Verizon installation is required. I wonder what the installation fee will be. Not that I wouldn't be willing to pay a reasonable fee to get these awesome speeds, just curious.

Also, I take it that FIOS is not a bundled service, right? They're selling you a pipe - can you turn around and cancel your phone service with Verizon and go with Vonage or somebody else?

Even if you can, at least Verizon is still getting some revenue from you. That's better than the current scenario in which Verizon is completely losing phone/Internet customers to cable companies. In fact, Verizon is suffering a net loss of phone lines for the first time since the Depression.

Brian
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3Plink.com |Voice|Video|Data|]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158437 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:04:06 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158421 furlonium : Surprised nobody else mentioned it but....

I'll be happy when I get my 3/768 :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158421 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:01:14 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158281 mglunt : You would think that Charter would have to remove all caps, and slash prices. $40 and $50 for those speeds? Amazing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158281 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:38:14 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158214 rrxpert :
said by Julio See Profile:
why dont they do these kind of trials in NYC? i mean look how many people live here. it will help you test it much quicker, plus they wont have to put fiber trails in other redneck places that dont need fiber.


Because NYC sucks and by the time they laid it down, some moron would probably dig it up out of the ground and steal it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158214 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:25:00 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158192 mig288 : How do you think Charter will respond to all of the Keller residents switching over to fiber? Will they tuck tail and run , or will they put up a fight? Has there been any advertisements bashing Verizon FIOS? I'm just wondering what current ISP's have in store. I know when muni's started popping up, providers such as Comcast ran advertisements bashing them.

Your Fiber line looks awesome.. The only question I have is...Why Texas?

Verizon bring the fiber to New Jersey..... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158192 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:21:33 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158031 richie111 :
said by PyThro See Profile:
Yeah you have underground conduits and stuff to buildings in NYC but what about once the fiber is in the building, They would have to do all kinds of stuff to get fiber to the customers room and probably use as much fiber inside the building getting it to the customer than outside.

Not everyone here lives in buildings. I live in a house, with a pole right outside. now that can't be that hard, can it Mr Verizon?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11158031 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:35:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157728 anon : "Fiber sounds like it's a lot of money to install, but like I said it'll quickly repay itself and Verizon will make a profit. Right now Verizon is losing money with DSL, with FTTP it'll be pure profit."

While not completely crazy, Verizon is taking a big risk. If there were a slam-dunk business case, everyone would be doing it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157728 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:33:49 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157586 Tzale :
said by insomniac84 See Profile:
How can 5mbit/2mbit be 40 a month? Bandwidth cost shouldn't vary just because the last mile connection is different. Plus this is a brand new network, shouldn't it cost more?


Copper costs a lot more to maintain. Fiber is cheap after they start making profit. There is little to no maintainence required. If you could compute the price of copper telephone installations when they first came out you'd see it's probably equal too or higher in installation price if you add in inflation. Fiber sounds like it's a lot of money to install, but like I said it'll quickly repay itself and Verizon will make a profit. Right now Verizon is losing money with DSL, with FTTP it'll be pure profit. Sure, they have to pay for bandwidth but I predict that the price of bandwidth will really go down; to the price of water. This is because there will be so many FTTP users in this country that it will require the fiber to be lit that has been dark for several years now. Just if no one knows installation is 100% free from Verizon. You don't pay a dime, they cover the $1,000-2,000 installation. There aren't any contracts either.

DSL is limited to usually 7mbit and below, most people only getting 1.5mbit or less. I think the "set" price for residential broadband is $30-50/month. So if Verizon could, they would provide you with the 15mbits of bandwidth for a little more then a 1.5mbit line. If DSL wasn't limited, I'm sure they'd be providing 15mbit for the same price.

-Tzale ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157586 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 04:13:50 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157442 DJMADfx : Verizon is providing a news server for FTTP?! That would be great. I'm guessing that it's probably the same server as the DSL one. I'm also curious to know the speeds. Enjoy your fiber! :)
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My....god.....

/me passes out]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157365 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:40:52 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157320 Goldwire X : Tom, are you able to access the Verizon news server??? That might just be the one place you'll be able to get the full 15Mbps. Download Grabit »www.shemes.com/index.php?p=download and connect to the news server and start 8 download threads and take a screen shot of how fast it goes.

I'm sure everyone else wants to know what type of speed you get from the news server so please do us this one favor. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157320 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:24:25 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157313 AD7BK : How much does the service cost, and this PROVES that FTTH will work. Fast speed, and no problems so how much did the install cost? and what is the fastest speed you gotten?
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said by insomniac84 See Profile:
How much is FIOS a month?

»www22.verizon.com/ForYourHome/Fi···rice.asp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157263 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:07:37 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157245 insomniac84 : How much is FIOS a month?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157245 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:02:50 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157103 Bytezboy : I officially hate you now. ;) Congrats on the fiber and thanks for keeping us informed. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157103 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:31:12 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157094 AJ023 : NYC has plenty of fiber trunked. Heck even in Queens, we have Con Edison Communications manholes, RCN, and Verizon with fiber trunked. I dont know if the others have fiber here or not. I was looking at the road and there appears to be road that was dug up recently with NYT1 marking. NYT = NY Telephone. So I believe Fiber is already trunked here and was pretty recently since the road looks like it was patched up for NYT (NY Telephone) The Con Edison Communications manhole isnt too far from me either and we have RCN which stinks and hopefully is bought up by a REAL provider.

With Verizon comitted to FIOS, it raises the bar for the other carriers who will have to have fiber to the premises to compete. Time Warner will probably have to convert over (I havent seen any work yet done to upgrade their cablelines in the ground), RCN is fiber to 900 feet but service is horrible and hopefully someone good will buy up the infrastructure, Verizon is going to do FIOS in Queens Im sure even to multitenant apartments. And maybe various telcos and/or ISPs will merge and create another backbone. There will be at least 4 competitors for broadband in NYC (RCN, Verizon, Time Warner and probably a combination of merged telcos/isps or some combination thereof and Con Edison.) I dont think Con Edisons use of Ambient broadband over powerline will work well and I would avoid it and go to Verizon FIOS instead. You dont send RF down powerline and expect to get quality broadband.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157094 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:28:13 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157051 koolman2 : *cries*

You make my 320kbps DSL look like a 300 baud modem]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11157051 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:19:25 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156988 drake :
said by AuraReturn See Profile:
Why NYC? Why not San Francisco or LA? SF is more high tech than NYC anyways.

..Have you even been to NYC? ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156988 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:08:24 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156980 AuraReturn :
said by Julio See Profile:
said by Vamp See Profile:
said by Julio See Profile:
said by mishaq See Profile:
lol while that was funny, it was still mean. And uh, itd be a little more difficuilt wiring up NYC with fiber than these redneck places....
do u know how many underground tunels we have? a lot.


ny can already get ool .. they need to work on getting it out here somewhere, or more specifically to me. Comeon verizon, you wont even have to wire everywhere, just run it straight to me.
only like half of one borough.

Why NYC? Why not San Francisco or LA? SF is more high tech than NYC anyways.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156980 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:06:39 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156890 Anonymous : I wonder how long does it take to load »www.onlycablecan.com/

:)

PA people paid for it but damn Texans got it.

;)
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Those are nice speeds though...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156837 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:39:43 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156799 Julio :
said by Vamp See Profile:
said by Julio See Profile:
said by mishaq See Profile:
lol while that was funny, it was still mean. And uh, itd be a little more difficuilt wiring up NYC with fiber than these redneck places....
do u know how many underground tunels we have? a lot.


ny can already get ool .. they need to work on getting it out here somewhere, or more specifically to me. Comeon verizon, you wont even have to wire everywhere, just run it straight to me.
only like half of one borough.
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said by Vamp See Profile:
ny can already get ool .. they need to work on getting it out here somewhere, or more specifically to me.

NY is majorily served by Time Warner and Cablevision - NYC in particular; Time Warner(Road Runner) is the major provider - they run Manhattan, Queens, Staten Island and West of Brooklyn - The rest of Brooklyn and the Bronx are served by Cablevision(OOL).
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said by Julio See Profile:
said by mishaq See Profile:
lol while that was funny, it was still mean. And uh, itd be a little more difficuilt wiring up NYC with fiber than these redneck places....
do u know how many underground tunels we have? a lot.


ny can already get ool .. they need to work on getting it out here somewhere, or more specifically to me. Comeon verizon, you wont even have to wire everywhere, just run it straight to me.
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said by mishaq See Profile:
lol while that was funny, it was still mean. And uh, itd be a little more difficuilt wiring up NYC with fiber than these redneck places....
do u know how many underground tunels we have? a lot.
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Damn you FCC!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156632 Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:09:45 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156620 Julio : why dont they do these kind of trials in NYC? i mean look how many people live here. it will help you test it much quicker, plus they wont have to put fiber trails in other redneck places that dont need fiber.
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Damn, why can't I be a tester here in NYC. That makes me wanna drool and cry.

Congrats on the Fiber. By any chance, do you need a room mate?

JE
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Here i am spending $150 a month for ISDN in the boonies :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156326 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:35:32 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156118 StreetSpirit : Tom, I've got to agree with the consensus here, I hate you as well :)

Wonderful photos! Enjoy!

Thanks for posting this, gives me some hope that I won't have to put up with the MSOs and their silly restrictions in a couple of years. And if not, we're all moving to Keller!

Regards, you lucky son of a gun!
David]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11156118 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:13:20 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155679 richie111 : WOW]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155679 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:26:50 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155672 mishaq : OOL users dont deserve to get fiber :p
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That's about 96.11% of your rated downstream channel; The TCP/IP overhead is taking up just about 4% of the line - looks pretty good though. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155410 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:00:15 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155362 Integrator : Here it is:
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155362 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:56:07 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155332 drake :
said by Vamp See Profile:
are you kidding? in 30 seconds he would already have the 64mb file downloaded fully :)

OK - Well, with my 10Mbps connection from OOL, it usually takes just about 1 min to download it - it may be best to get the value at 50% then. :)
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said by Integrator See Profile:
Any lists of decent test spots for this kind of connection?
The best method for measuring speed-test is using FTP transfers; The best place for to measure your downstream channel is using the OOL FTP Speed-test, after 30-45 seconds, note your transfer rate and cancel your download; then take the transfer rate value by 8.192 and you should get your true downstream channel in kbps(kilobits per second).
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GeForce4 MX 420 64MB Vid Card, CNET Pro200WL 10/100 NIC, 16x DVD-ROM and Dell 48x CD-RW, 40GB HD.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155290 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:49:23 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155130 Vamp : Thanks, all I can say is.. Impressive, wonder how it will be when they get 20,000+ customers hooked to that, hope they use a backbone big enough to support the bandwidth of leeches.

also, how much faster does browsing feel? like a whole lot faster or just a slight bit faster?
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Any lists of decent test spots for this kind of connection?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155128 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:35:14 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155110 Integrator : Here are the results of the test:

TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.2.1e
click START to begin
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 1.51Mb/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 15.06Mb/s
The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet
Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link

click START to re-test

bw = 121.57 based on packet size = 11Kbits, RTT = 91.11msec, and loss = 1.0E-6
The theoretical network limit is 121.57 Mbps
The transmit buffer (127.0 KByte) limits the application to 10.97 Mbps
Your receive buffer (249.0 KByte) limits the application to 21.39 Mbps
The network based flow control limits the application to 14.83 Mbps

Client Data reports link is 'Ethernet', Client Acks report link is 'Ethernet'
Server Data reports link is 'Ethernet', Server Acks report link is 'T3'

Tracert Results:

Tracing route to dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

Tracing route to dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 10.33.3.1
3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms P6-4.LCR-01.DLLSTX.verizon-gni.net [130.81.25.73
]
4 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms so-6-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.ASH.verizon-gni.net [130.81
.10.90]
5 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms dcx-edge-02.inet.qwest.net [208.46.127.253]
6 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms 205.171.251.13
7 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms dcp-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.251.34]
8 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms qwest-gw.wswdc.ip.att.net [192.205.32.29]
9 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms tbr2-p011901.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.118]
10 44 ms 44 ms 45 ms tbr2-cl1.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.10.53]
11 44 ms 43 ms 43 ms gar1-p340.nwrnj.ip.att.net [12.123.214.185]
12 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms att-gige.esd1.nwr.nac.net [12.119.140.26]
13 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms 3.ge-3-0-0.gbr2.nwr.nac.net [209.123.11.189]
14 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms 0.so-0-3-0.gbr1.oct.nac.net [209.123.11.233]
15 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]

1 tracert www.google.com

Tracing route to www.google.akadns.net [216.239.39.147]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 10.33.3.1
3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms P6-4.LCR-01.DLLSTX.verizon-gni.net [130.81.25.73
]
4 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms so-0-0-0-0.PEER-RTR1.DFW80.verizon-gni.net [130.
81.16.31]
5 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms so-5-1-0-0.gar2.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.78.234.1]

6 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms ge-1-3-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [209.247.9.225]

7 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms as-2-0.bbr1.Washington1.Level3.net [64.159.1.2]

8 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms ge-7-2.ipcolo2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.68.121.
140]
9 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms unknown.Level3.net [64.156.240.26]
10 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 216.239.47.113
11 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 64.233.174.138
12 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms 216.239.48.85
13 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 216.239.47.54
14 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms 216.239.39.147

Trace complete.

The only thing I can tell you, is that this connection is much more stable as far as ping goes and time to my favorite game server. There is almost no fluctuation when i do a ping 50 times on it. I was with Charter and it would vary wildly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155110 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:33:11 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155067 drake :
said by jsmarkbrown See Profile:
Can you tell me how this speed test site identifies your connection?

»miranda.ctd.anl.gov:7123/

Just to note: That speed test site isn't good for connections over 3Mbps - it doesn't even register good speeds with my OOL Connection.
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»miranda.ctd.anl.gov:7123/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11155023 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:24:00 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11154901 Vamp : can you please post a traceroute? goto cmd type "tracert www.dslreports.com" and do it to another site like yahoo or google to. thanks

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The single ethernet jack is what they installed and I just patched it over to the router. I live alone, except for when the kids come over and the kids pc's are hooked up via wireless. The UPS is just for the phone and only for the phone.

The two installers were sharp for sure.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11154852 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:05:24 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11154340 drake : Congrats with the install - Looks pretty spiffy :-D

....As others said, I also Hate you. ;-)

I still enjoy my OOL and Road Runner Service though :-)

Exactly what did they do inside your home? What exactly did they install throughout the house? I see ethernet jacks, etc. :D
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Depending on the resolution of the picture you will need anywhere from 8 to 17 megs im told.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11154273 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:05:25 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11154241 SpitefulCrow : Wow. Awesome, great for you, man! Enjoy it and abuse it as much as possible ;)
To the trolls: Go away, obviously Verizon IS building this network and your whining about Pennsylvania isn't gonna make a difference.
I really really hope the reports of deployment coming to Westchester Co, NY by 2005 are true. :o]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11154241 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:02:35 EDT HD http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11154231 MrShoop : Is 30mb enough to bandiwdth carry a hi-def tv stream?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11154231 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:01:39 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11154184 Tzale : Awesome man! That is some serious speed, finally Verizon has beat my Optimum Online connection and for a cheaper price!

I can't wait for the fiber to be lit here in Bergen County, then hopefully they'll extend the network 3 miles to me and I'll be a happy man.

Once FTTH/FTTP is common, it'll cause a revolution on the internet and bandwidth will become as cheap as water. We'll be able to have 100mbit lines from Verizon I expect within a few years. Also all the servers out there that limit speeds to say 1mbit because most visitors are dialup users will now upgrade to allow fiber optic home users. Right now, it's not widespread, but a few years from now this will happen. Don't forget broadband is now the majority in this country. But there is Dialup, Broadband and "REAL" Broadband (FTTH/FTTP).

I'm so happy for you! Have fun with your fiber line! Our dreams are becoming a reality! Regular average Joe's are getting fiber to the home/premise!

-Tzale :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11154184 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:55:46 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11153594 jrsmooth : Do you have a room to rent?

:D
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Congrats.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11153386 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:26:31 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11153164 Vamp : now setup a nice 30+ player game server running on a athlon64 :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11153164 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:58:17 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11153150 chill2k66 : seriously, can't they start the FIOS stuff in some big metropolitan like LA and more specifically 90027 of LA? And don't give me that crap about digging up crowded streets... I'm the only one who matters!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11153150 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:57:16 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11153008 Integrator : Look, it isn't all good. It is hell trying to find a decent speed test site that will give me accurate results!!!:D

The "trial" period means that the service is at a reduced cost and that I am required to return the surveys. They have also given the a dedicated tech support person who called me immediately after install and gave me her extension.

I talked to her and the installers and everyone seems to be on the same page when I ask what I am a limited to. They say that there are no limitations on the line. I can run whatever services I want off of it. I don't know if that actually is true or not, the TOS booklet they gave was monstrous. I am not going to read that damn thing unless aliens come down from the sky, and I have to lock myself in the closet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11153008 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:40:22 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152989 58483323 : Are you going to write an ISP review for Verizon FIOS? :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152989 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:39:02 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152970 npln : :)Congrats!!! HUA!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152970 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:36:09 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152754 Gwailo : For general info, there is a lot of good reading here: »www.afc.com/solutions/literature.asp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152754 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:12:07 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152752 wwefan2003 : Congrads Dude. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152752 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:11:54 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152724 alien9999999 : I HATE YOU!!! i got downgraded instead to +-300KB/s download!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152724 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:09:28 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152689 smcallah :
said by JakCrow See Profile:
I wonder why long it will stay at 14Mbps. Do they really have the network to handle everyone at that speed? I doubt it.


Obviously they aren't going to be buying 1:1 bandwidth for all of their customers and selling it as cheap as they are, so not everyone can get 15Mbps at the exact same time.

This is how the telco model has been for decades. Just like they don't expect everyone to pick up the phone at the exact same time, they don't expect everyone to use all the bandwidth at the same time.

If there is any provider out there that has 1:1 bandwidth for all of its customers, you're looking at a soon to be dead provider, if it's not already.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152689 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:06:12 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152671 rbrugman : What kind of pings are you getting with your new fiber install? I'm incredibly jealous, as is everyone, because we are the unfortunate 99% that can't get FIOS

Robert]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152671 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:03:22 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152380 google2 : Very impressive - wish I had that kind of setup.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152380 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:33:37 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152358 JakCrow : I wonder why long it will stay at 14Mbps. Do they really have the network to handle everyone at that speed? I doubt it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152358 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:31:31 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152322 MEDIAN2k3 : Dude you beat out my optimum online, im very impressed, i cant wait for the NYC trials to being, DAMN I WANT FIBER!

enjoy the bw and please abuse it :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152322 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:28:07 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152065 jsol69 : I am so F*#king mad I could eat my my keyboard, :(I have 768 dsl from Verizon STILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have Fun!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11152065 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:03:24 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11151914 pcdebb : d00d, wanna get married? i can be on the first thing smokin' to Keller :D

makes my roadrunner look like dialup]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11151914 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:50:14 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11151907 bigpapae35 : Those speeds should be illegal, its just not fair that someone can have something that someone else cant. Lets go back to communism.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11151907 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:49:37 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11151677 Marilla : Pardon me while I salivate at the prospect of downloading an entire CD-Rom of data in 6 minutes. And yes, I understand it would likely be limited by the speed of the server downloading from; but still!

Here's hoping your trial goes well! Congrats, and thanks for posting!
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I know I am jealous and wish I had that kind of speed. Please keep us informed! You are one of the first here to get that kind of service and your input is welcome! :)
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On a serious note, enjoy it mate! :)
Might need a realtor in Keller. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11151331 Wed, 25 Aug 2004 14:52:48 EDT Re: My FIOS install http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11150936 SixOfNine : Congrats. I hate you. :)

Brian
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Just thought I would drop a line and tell you how the install went. I had the install scheduled for today the 25th. They came out yesterday and buried the fiber from the vault. They did a nice job on it too. The techs came out today and switched over my phone service from copper to the fiber, and they hooked up my internet service. They were friendly and they definitely knew what they were doing. The service is now in trials (this applies to anyone who has the service now in Keller). I agreed to fill out some surveys when they come out to get service now. They brought with them the d-link router. They support that and they do have the ability to check cable status and such from their end using your username and the password you set up when you set service up. The tech had to provision my line through his cell connected laptop. The laptop is what he uses to actually authorize your ONT on the network. The TV service won't be offered until next year.

Oh well, I am very happy and the total intsall after they buried the fiber yesterday, took less than 2 hours today.

speedtest:

2004-08-25 13:48:32 EST: 14679 / 1794
Your download speed : 15031536 bps, or 14679 kbps.
A 1834.9 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 1837109 bps, or 1794 kbps.

The pics are probably overkill but just wanted everyone to see what they are gonna get when they get FIOS.

Tom
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