| Problems with Pings at University I go to Pittsburg State University, in Kansas.. and what I hear is that it's 8 T1's networked together, but unsure of that..
Anyway, I get good pings at night sometimes, after 12 or later.. like 40-100.. which is alright but not great, and during the day i get something like 7000 sometimes. I play Rogue Spear on the internet and would like to do so during the day or before 1230 sometimes! The connection is so terrible that I can't even play PartyPoker (partypoker.com) without being lagged out and just not being able to play. If anyone has any suggestions that I could do or talk to an IT about, let me know. That'd be great. I can download at 150k/sec anytime, and up to 600k/sec after midnight. Any advice? Also, if you're kind enough, I will probably me on MSN Messenger with tommyhawkers@hotmail.com if anybody would like to help or is having the same problems.
Thanks!
Tommy |
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Markie
join:2003-07-26
Kalispell, MT | There's a good chance that they're using software/hardware to intentionally slow down your connection and increase latency (like Packeteer). Ask your network admin. |
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increasing latency is not why they use traffic shaping
that is just a side effect from doing it |
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Markie
join:2003-07-26
Kalispell, MT | reply to tommyhawkers0
Not necessarily true. They certainly can and do intentionally increase latency on certain types of traffic. They know this makes the system completely useless for games, which is the point of the traffic shaping... |
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sure they CAN do it but why...
doing that would be incredibly stupid
their purpose is to render games useless yet the router is wasting cpu cycles routing this delayed traffic that cant be used effectively
just blocking the ports would make much more sense
and from looking at the way my university does traffic shaping and from doing research on how many other large and small universities do traffic shaping, i have yet to see ANY school come out and say, "we are increasing the latency of this application so that it wont work."
all that i have seen block ports of applications that they dont want working and for traffic that is of a lower priority, they acknowledge that due to it being lower priority, it is quite likely that latency will be high |
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 tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | reply to Markie
said by Markie:
Not necessarily true. They certainly can and do intentionally increase latency on certain types of traffic. They know this makes the system completely useless for games, which is the point of the traffic shaping...
sorry, but that doesn't make much sense to me. Gaming traffic accounts for a small minority of the traffic on any university network (8KBps per student max). Preventing students from playing games doesn't benefit the school in any way - it only hurts the students.
As far as traffic shaping goes, usually traffic shaping is only directed at P2P applications which nowadays take up a vast majority of its network traffic. If the school wants to give priority to HTTP, then you can have fast HTTP downloads while causing all other traffic to wait (and thus increase latency). However, from what he's saying I doubt there is even any traffic shaping in use. It just looks like an overloaded network/router causing the pings to skyrocket. As traffic decreases in the evening/late night his ping also goes down.
I guess a traceroute to google.com or dslreports.com would tell us.
If traffic-shaping is in use, just contact your university's IT dept. and ask them to increase the priority of network traffic for games (remember to tell them what port is used by your game, and if it's udp/tcp). |
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 SpyderCKEWe call that the Dennis Miller RatioPremium
join:2000-10-26
Milwaukee, WI | reply to tommyhawkers0
We have a BW monitor going, and I think gaming takes about 1Mbit of out 24something Mbit connection. The connecurrent connection limit was raised, and pings hit the floor. I was previously seeing around 300 to any server. Its not intentional, the student body is just demanding more BW over responsiveness. Too bad they don't realise most of that perception is coming from latency not BW.
Chris
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