They want reality? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r11106594 en Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:47:06 EDT Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:47:06 EDT Re: They want reality? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11112669 Jeremy341 : I think I understand now. Thanks for taking the time to clarify your points.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11112669 Sat, 21 Aug 2004 00:18:09 EDT Re: They want reality? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11112600 KrK : These satellites orbit at about 22,000 miles above the Earth.

As the Earth rotates, we have the day and night cycle as the Sun's position is fixed. The Satellites also pass in and out of the Earth's shadow.

If you can picture the earth from space, and imagine you're up by the Satellite, as the sun "Dawns" around the side of the planet, the sunlight will indeed be striking the satellite on the side facing the Earth, albeit at a bit of an angle, but it will be direct sunlight.

As the Satellite orbits, and the Sun stays fixed, at different times sunlight will be striking the satellite from the front, the side, or from behind.
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At least that's the way I see it. If I'm missing something, by all means feel free to point it out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11112293 Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:29:09 EDT Re: They want reality? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11112272 KrK : Heh. Um... I see what you're saying, ---but---

The Earth *rotates*. At different times during the Earth's rotation, all sides of the Satellite will be hit with direct sunshine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11112272 Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:25:50 EDT Re: They want reality? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11111993 Jeremy341 : I said the antennas, not the whole satellite. Since the satellite's antennas are facing the Earth (duh), the sun is behind them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11111993 Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:45:14 EDT Re: They want reality? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11111959 KrK :
said by Jeremy341 See Profile:
I wasn't even thinking about the satellites up in space, since the sun couldn't be hitting the antennas on those. I was thinking about the ground-based satellite dishes, which actually do get affected by the sun.
ROFL. ROFL!

Um. Excuse me. They are in Space. How can the Sunlight NOT hit them? Satellites are bombarded with solar radiation. They are engineered to try and protect themselves from it...
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"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11111959 Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:41:35 EDT Re: They want reality? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11111204 BosstonesOwn : I think the ones out in space get affected by the sun as well. Since there was another news thread before about satellite bands and stuff I started reading up on it. It's a pretty neat subject.

A particular transponder could act up because of the way the sunlight hits it, knocking out that transponder for a couple seconds. Not for to long but it is possible.
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This is true, but it only happens twice a year when the Sun for the few days it takes it to transit behind the orbits of the Geo Synchronous satellites. The outage will last for about 15 minutes or less. If they use this excuse
at any other time of the year they are feeding you a line
of hoodoo
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And this is because the sun is in the same position as the ground satelight, and the one in space, so what happens is the radiation from the sun hits the dish on the ground at the right angle, and interrupts the signal from space.

YEAH!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11109454 Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:42:02 EDT Re: They want reality? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11108782 Jeremy341 : I wasn't even thinking about the satellites up in space, since the sun couldn't be hitting the antennas on those. I was thinking about the ground-based satellite dishes, which actually do get affected by the sun.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11108782 Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:10:18 EDT Re: They want reality? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11107740 J D McDorce : Most satellites use a combination of solar arrays and batteries to provide power (RTGs haven't found their way into common commercial use ;-) ). It is difficult to transmit without power...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11107740 Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:13:03 EDT Re: They want reality? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11107339 Jeremy341 :
said by amenite See Profile:
if sunlight were *not* hitting the satellites they would have huge problems, as there would be no power to beam anything anywhere.
Haha, are you a Comcast employee? Satellites do not need the sun to transmit...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11107339 Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:33:20 EDT Re: They want reality? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11107142 Transmaster :
said by Morac See Profile:

Sunlight hitting the satellite they get their programming from.


This is true, but it only happens twice a year when the Sun for the few days it takes it to transit behind the orbits of the Geo Synchronous satellites. The outage will last for about 15 minutes or less. If they use this excuse
at any other time of the year they are feeding you a line
of hoodoo
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said by Morac See Profile:
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Here's the list of things they've blaimed for the problem:

1. My TiVo
2. My TV
3. Sunlight hitting the satelite they get their programming from.
4. Wiring in my house (even though the problem shows up when I plug my TV into the drop)
5. Pretty much everything except themselves.
LOL @ #3, if sunlight were *not* hitting the satellites they would have huge problems, as there would be no power to beam anything anywhere. Sounds to me like total CS ineptitude.
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1. My TiVo
2. My TV
3. Sunlight hitting the satelite they get their programming from.
4. Wiring in my house (even though the problem shows up when I plug my TV into the drop)
5. Pretty much everything except themselves.
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