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Packet sniffing on both the WAN and LAN side demonstrated that echo response with "Don't fragment" bit set is dropped by the router.

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said by Flogator :

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The irony here, is if you really want to deny ActiveX, you should know that you can do the very same thing by configuring your web browser.

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said by BBMAC:

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I was hoping Cisco would really help to get all the bugs out. The interface is much nicer to look at but man... who likes having their router crash?

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said by Flogator :

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Guys, I am currently chasing an old bug that might have resurface. The old bug is about long URL strings. Could some of you using 1.50.18 try the URL below and indicate to this thread whether it crashes the BEFSX41 or not?

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No!!! 1.50.18 does not work properly.

1. Cannot browse Internet even though I made sure all settings are according to my old 1.45.7.

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said by Flogator :

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You can find old BEFSX41 firmware here. Then choose your battles from all these versions. My recommendation is still firmware 1.45.7.

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said by Eko :

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Just a side note, Papa_Gulf. Did you reboot the computer after you set static IP? You need to.
If you can get to the router but not to the net, it must be DNS issue.
Again:
IP : 192.168.1.71
Sub.mask: 255.255.255.0
Def.gate: 192.168.1.1

DNS1: your dns1 (alternatively put 192.168.1.1 and try)
DNS2: your dns2 (alternatively don't put anything)

And again REBOOT!
AliM

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said by ticker5 :

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Its beginning to look more and more like the thread:
»BEFSX41- Its the year 2010 and FW 20.50.9 is out

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said by Flogator :

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NJim, aside the trace route that you claim is working in 1.50.9, there are lots of other bugs in it that are fixed in 1.50.18. I guess it is just a matter of opinion as which one is best. My opinion is if you like 1.50.9, you will like 1.50.18 better. Then again, this is just my opinion ;).

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I was thinking of somthing on the serverside like HttpResponse.Redirect().

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said by Hertzman :

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A redirect just tells the browser which page to fetch so a direct link or redirect should be the same :o

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said by NJim :

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This would seem to indicate that they are using some kind of redirect rather than a simple link.

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said by WayuU :

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Is ver 1.50.9 ICMP tracert able?

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said by Zexalex:

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My 2 cents: upgrade to 1.50.18, set the MTU on PC side, do a full long >30sec reset before you start working. Or do not upgrade at all. Or buy something else (what?) - As someone said, Netgear is also not an option.

Thanks for all the good job done to everyone.

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I've had issues with the pages not showing up on earlier versions too. But now it is worse.
All I do to get them to show up is to hit the refresh button (without CTRL). Sometimes now I have to hit it up to, but not more than, 3 times to get the page to show up.

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said by jbob :

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I wonder if this is a hardware or driver issue? Different drivers may or may not allow this. Perhaps MS OS branded drivers have less functionality.

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said by linksyspains :

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I would rather see content filtering and WEB access pushed down to the clients. I don't think it belongs in the router box. At least not in these sub $100 boxes.

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Flogator....

I like your idea about more than just one person writing in to Linksys about the FW problems. Maybe the squeaky wheel will get greased. (and not in the Chicago mob sort of way)

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Does the Linksys even reassemble IP fragmented packets before applying the de-NAT?

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What I decided to do was to use TimInHackMod's NTP server updater to change the three NTP servers to point to 192.168.1.100 with firmware 1.45.3.

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For me it worked the following way:

Add a static route for 'time.nist.gov'
Destination LAN IP: 192.43.244.18
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.254 (it is not possible to set a 255 for the fourth octet what would be neccessary for a real host route)
Default Gateway: 'router-ip-on-lan' (e.g. 192.168.1.1)
Hop Count: 0
Interface: LAN

Then I gave one (Windows) host a second IP address of 192.43.244.18 and installed the Program Jana2 Proxy Server »www.janaserver.de/ .

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The theory of tracing routes is interesting, but if it's been stated, I missed why firmware 1.50.18 isn't passing a ICMP tracert, while UDP works.

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Forgot to mention. When the packet reaches the destination something funny occurs. In the ICMP-based trace route, the destination will reply with an ICMP Echo Reply. In the case of UDP-based trace route, the destination will reply with an ICMP Host Unreachable with the sub-code of Port Unreachable. Either way, it will always be an ICMP message coming back. There is only one caveat with UDP-based trace route. If the UDP port being used during the trace route is actually in serviced at the far-end, then no ICMP messages will be sent back. That is why a good UDP-based trace route implementation will repeat with more UDP messages using different UDP port .

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Let me state it this way.
Traceroute uses the TTL option in the IP packet to elicit an ICMP Time Exceeded message from each router. Each router decrements the TTL field. So the decrementation of the TTL field works LIKE a counter.

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Illjuschin, can you give us, not so learned users on routing, some example or screen picture of your method for NTP servers.

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Is it possible to restrict access to certain IP (by number) also using static routes? Thanks.

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Traceroute (tracert) sends sequences of ICMP echo request (type 8) beginning with a TTL of 1.

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Only difference is that the TTL field in a traceroute is decremented by one for each router it passes, while the TTL field is not touched when pinging.

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Also today, I found I could not find the selection for which IP I wanted to broadcast the logs to: 255=All or a specific IP... Did you find that? Thanks!!

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said by Jan Janowski :

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EDIT!! One last question... Are you on Cable or DSL???

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said by Jan Janowski :

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You mentioned you came across screens that didn't refresh properly.... White Screens? How did you get them to refresh, Refresh? Page Back/Page Fwd? Wear a plaid shirt?
(Hey! If that is what it takes!!)

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said by Jan Janowski :

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said by WayuU :

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I forgot a question:

Is the traceroute problem a confirmed bug or some deliberate change from Linksys?

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Why would someone intentionally code it to crash?
I found Pingplotter would immediately crash V1.50.18.

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There’s good and bad. The bad thing is that we slow down a little, but the good thing is we get a lot more input. We now have a lot more smart people who go “oops, we can’t do this”, or “oh, we haven’t thought about that”. We make less mistakes that way.

said by ApolloZip :

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Java based speed tests like Speakeasy's Speed Test causes a crash/re-boot with filters activated.

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said by WayuU :

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I forgot a question:

Is the traceroute problem a confirmed bug or some deliberate change from Linksys?

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Browsing works fine now with SPI turned on.

Well...'fixed' connection seems to be intermittent now.
Maybe I should try 1.45.7 ? ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10196786 Sun, 09 May 2004 17:37:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10196565 Jan Janowski : In the off chance that my first attempt was flawed.... I just spent another hour in V1.50.18..... loading only my PPPoE settings, and changing the the default password. This time I did not touch MTU enable or disable... Just told it my PPPoE settings, and let it do it's thing...
No Surfing here, not even to home page.
I then tried it all over a 2nd time, disabling SPI firewall. No difference...
Finally I tried enabling or disabling MTU with SPI "off".
Still not surf...

All this was with only one Linky, not cascaded Linkys, but I'm on DSL, not cable..

Back on V 1.45.7 again (with cascaded Linkys)... (and confirmed that a restore will not set the Block Wan Request).. Set it manually... All OK at V1.45.7 now...
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Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10196565 Sun, 09 May 2004 17:00:52 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10195989 anon :

Mjah, from which firmware version were you upgrading from? The reason I ask is because you seem to be getting a configuration upgrade problem. Simply restore the factory defaults and you should be fine. You can do this in the "Administration" tab and "Factory Defaults" sub-tab. If you don't know your settings by hard, keep some notes as after the restoring to factory default, you've got to start from scratch.

I was upgrading from the original firmware. But oddly enough it seems you were right. Restoring the factory defaults seems to have fixed it for me. Browsing works fine now with SPI turn ed on. Cheers :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10195989 Sun, 09 May 2004 15:28:53 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10195881 jefe :

said by drip :

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curious, i have not seen anyone else notice a performance difference like i have with this new version of firmware. web page loading is slower. not just internal config pages but the internet in general was slower-the speed difference i must admit was minor.

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I am definitely not seeing this. Internal pages do load more slowly, but external web pages load at the same speed as always.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10195881 Sun, 09 May 2004 15:09:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10194645 drip : it seems that i have had the pleasure of experiencing the mtu bug also. all did seem fine till it was not able to load any web pages but i was able to ping. immediately, there after i flash back to my previous version. this is very asinine.

curious, i have not seen anyone else notice a performance difference like i have with this new version of firmware. web page loading is slower. not just internal config pages but the internet in general was slower-the speed difference i must admit was minor.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10194645 Sun, 09 May 2004 12:12:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10194388 Jan Janowski :

said by ticker5 :

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Jan,

Since my last posting in this forum several weeks ago, I have moved on from the BEFSX41 to the SMC Barricade 7004FW using firmware 2.16. It been working for three weeks without a problem. It appears to do everything the Linksys was supposed to do and it costs $19 plus $10 for shipping on Ubid.com. You might want to end the frustration by looking into alternatives.

Regards,
ticker

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At first this was a very educational experience, and I needed the education, believe me... The problem is, when does an education become secondary to the frustration that this all brings?????

If anyone from Linksys is reading this, I would be Happy to describe in detail what I've posted here over the months.... Please contact me, and I promise to be concise and without malice...
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Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10194388 Sun, 09 May 2004 11:34:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10193995 anon : This is total and utter nonsense. Why do we have to put up with this B.S.? How can a company (any company) put out a product that DOES NOT function as advertized, expect its customers to BETA test their firmware and then release one firmware after another that actually breaks the product or worse and at best still does not enable the functions we paid for.

As soon as Buffalo releases their new hardware I am out of here. Its seems they are one of the best (better?)companies releasing consumer network gear.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10193995 Sun, 09 May 2004 10:36:12 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10193233 RareDingo : Ok I've answered one of my questions after much searching, found the hidden page, and yes I did do a backup and now all settings resored.
However question still begs to be answered why did the new firmware complain about McAfee doing a hacker trace, within 1 second of hitting the track button I lost all internet connectivity and had one red light top left hand corner of the router, had to wait till it sorted itself out before I could do anything.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10193233 Sun, 09 May 2004 07:27:34 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10193217 RareDingo : Well I'm back to using 1.45.7 as I tried to use a hacker trace with McAfee and it just fried my connection and it took me a couple of reboots to get it back. Any idea why that may have happened and would there be a way to fix this?
Also is 1.45.7 the most stable firmware to use other than the latest?
And, sorry, I'm sure I did a backup of my firmware settings but for the life of me can't think of where or how, there was a hidden setting. Do you backup to the router or outside, that is if I have upgraded to a different firmware have I lost my back up.

Sorry for all the questions]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10193217 Sun, 09 May 2004 07:15:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192468 Flogator : REMINDER FOR EVERYONE. If you notice some web page are loading but some others are not, you are likely be getting an MTU problem. Do not use the MTU option in the router if using 1.50.18 as it will render your internet connection useless. Instead, tweak the MTU value on each of your PC behind the BEFSX41. There are FAQ pages that helps you doing that. Here they are:

»Tweaking FAQ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192468 Sun, 09 May 2004 01:40:00 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192416 Flogator : GaryMiyakawa, could you say if your H.323 implementation uses some kind of ICMP-based trace route? Or perhaps is it pinging the remote end with a very small TTL? The reason I ask is I am wondering if you wouldn't be hitting the ICMP bug in 1.50.18 affecting ICMP-based trace route users.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192416 Sun, 09 May 2004 01:30:57 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192398 Flogator : Mjah, from which firmware version were you upgrading from? The reason I ask is because you seem to be getting a configuration upgrade problem. Simply restore the factory defaults and you should be fine. You can do this in the "Administration" tab and "Factory Defaults" sub-tab. If you don't know your settings by hard, keep some notes as after the restoring to factory default, you've got to start from scratch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192398 Sun, 09 May 2004 01:27:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192373 Flogator : haytak, even cable users will have problem if they enable MTU and set it to 1500. The reason is, the MTU bug in the 1.50.18 does the following. When MTU is enable, every single packet with the "Don't Fragment" bit set in the IP flags will be dropped despite what the MTU value is :(. Bottom line, enabling MTU IS NOT AN OPTION right now. I have informed Linksys about this but will send them more details on Monday about it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192373 Sun, 09 May 2004 01:24:00 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192059 ticker5 : Jan,

Since my last posting in this forum several weeks ago, I have moved on from the BEFSX41 to the SMC Barricade 7004FW using firmware 2.16. It been working for three weeks without a problem. It appears to do everything the Linksys was supposed to do and it costs $19 plus $10 for shipping on Ubid.com. You might want to end the frustration by looking into alternatives.

Regards,
ticker]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192059 Sun, 09 May 2004 00:32:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192041 anon : Bill, I experienced the same exact issues. I rolled back to the last firmware as well. I did notice that browsing seemed fine when using an ISP in which you can obtain an IP address automatically. I did not check if the router would reset when I performed a tracert though. Like your experience, doing a tracert DID reset the router when I was using a PPPoE ISP (SBC Yahoo DSL), and it would not allow me top browse many sites. What was interesting was that I could reach msn.com, but not hotmail.com, I could reach yahoo.com, but not yahoo mail or any of the links on the yahoo page. I also could not reach eBay, or Amazon.com. Interestingly enough, I could reach Linksys.com, but I could not download any firmware (FTP).

IF you have an ISP using PPPoE don't bother upgrading to this firmware until Linksys gets the bugs out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10192041 Sun, 09 May 2004 00:28:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10191683 Jan Janowski : My system: DSL (So I want an MTU of 1492, the value I'm presently using on my BEFSX41 V1.45.7).
System is two Linkys in series: BEFSX41 (on 10... IP) in front of BEFSRU31 (on 192...IP) Bridge miniport is my Network TCP/IP connection. Computers behind 2nd Linky are on Static IP's. DNS (And Gateway) on computer(s) points to BEFSRU31, which in turn points to BEFSX41. Conversely, I'm forwarding Wallwatcher's UDP port in BEFSX41 toward 2nd Linky which forwards it to the IP of the computer.
Upgrade to V1.50.18 went like this...
Enabled DHCP on BEFSX41.
Enabled DHCP on Computer.
Bypassed 2nd Linky and connected ethernet direct BEFSX41. Turned off 2nd Linky and Modem.
Long Reset on BEFSX41 (factory defaults)
connected to Linky Http with default IP and password. OK.
Used ftp program from Linky Site, Upgraded to V1.50.18
Upgrade successful...
Power cycled BEFSX41. Logged into it with default IP & Password, to begin my configuration.

Configured for PPPoE, and my account settings. Per the information above... Disabled MTU. Applied... Settings didn't stick. Did 2nd, 3rd time, finally enabled MTU. PPPoE settings stayed this time, and I saw my first all white screen... The setup menu was displayed again after a refresh button hit.
Blindly stumbled through the settings (DAMN THEM for not including an up-to-date manual!) to get a minimum of settings installed (password change, account name). I browsed through the other pages, each of which greeted me with a solid white screen, that occasionally refreshes with refresh button, but more often does not, or page back & page forward to get the pages to display... The further I go with configs, the slower it goes, as I wait in vain for the page to re-load (Usually to a solid White screen) and me hitting Refresh or page back/page forward, to try and BS my way through the settings that came without documentation... I'm beginning to get angry...
With a minimal configuration set, turned on modem and manually forced a connect. I was greeted with IP & DNS information!!.. So I try and surf... NOTHING!
Remembering the info from above, tried disabling or enabling MTU.... Didn't matter... nothing gets out. Doublechecked I was getting IP DNS entries from my ISP... Yep, I'm OK. But still can't surf!
Then I remember Flog indicating that I may have to Set MTU in the Computer...
First tried DRTcP MTU (1492)set on Bridge setting, and reboot, followed by white screens in configuration screens as I try both Enable and Disable MTU in setup menu (When it displays, and isn't a solid white screen).. Neither worked, Still couldn't surf.
So, thinking that I should do it on the Network Card TCP/IP cause I'm not presently going through 2 Linky's.. So I try the network card MTU setting with DRTcP to 1492, followed by a reboot, and both settings in the setup menu... Nothing gets out here, either!...

So I'm thinking that maybe I have a DNS issue... so fire up PingPlotter.... to ping DSLReport's IP address... This, of course reboots the BEFSX41 !!!

That's it!!! What an infuriating piece of CRAP!!!
Re-Flashed V1.45.7, restored the settings I'd saved successfully! (Note here that in V1.45.7 a Restore of settings saved does not re-enable Block Wan Request (Pings) if it was origionally set to be this... So after a 'restore' remember to manually change it, if you want it enabled)
Disconnected Ethernet from BEFSX41, Powered up BEFSRU31,
Re-configured the computer from DHCP to Static IP, and added DNS and Gateway settings to BEFSRU31...
Connected ethernet to 2nd Linky... EVERYTHING WORKS FINE.
Went back into BEFSX41 setups... Display quicker, Far, FAR LESS WHITE SCREENS..... and it WORKS!!!

I went back to V1.45.7 on my BEFSX41...

Can't Surf....Can't use PingPlotter!! Have to re-enter my PPPoE account information multiple times before it stops displaying "Get IP Automatically" Didn't anybody test this???

PHOOEY!!! WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND MAKES PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN A SYSTEM WITHOUT A REVISED INSTRUCTION MANUAL???

I can't use PingPlotter? What a CROCK!!!
NO INSTRUCTIONS!! MTU is obviously not correct....
Trade one reboot for another,
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Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10191683 Sat, 08 May 2004 23:36:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10191487 GaryMiyakawa : If you are trying to do H.323 Video, better not upgrade to the 1.50.18... It always reboots the router... 1.45.6 seems to work just fine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10191487 Sat, 08 May 2004 23:10:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10191301 drip : this may sound odd, and i know it is not very technical, but this firmware version seems to be slow. web page loads are slower than usual and outlook is affected when concerning loads speeds.

i cant still can get over the tracert causing reboots. i had to confirm it myself-was curious. needless to say it is universal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10191301 Sat, 08 May 2004 22:50:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10188372 Konceptz :

said by RareDingo :

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robewhitener are you a dsl or cable user. I note that most otf the cable users are very happy with the new firmware but some of the dsl people are having MTU and other issues, like different sites loading etc. I am having the same issues.

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I first reported the MTU error and I have a cable modem Terayon TJ715x on Comcast 3300/256
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"Windows Has Yet To Detect A Keyboard. Press Any Key To Continue..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10188372 Sat, 08 May 2004 15:58:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10186041 Eko : I can't do more tests right now, but check my previous post »Re: [wired] BEFSX41 firmware 1.50.18 - POST YOUR R
It took 3.25 seconds. Oh yes, SPI off, all logging options on
EDIT: Checked the WallWatcher logs: times are: 7.10; 6.10; 6.09; 9.11; 19.69; 13.02; 3.00; 2.98; 3.01
AliM]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10186041 Sat, 08 May 2004 09:56:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185978 Jan Janowski : If someone would do a test on the new firmware for me, I'd appreciate it... (This will simplify some tests tomorrow)
Document the time, Force a re-boot. watch logs to see how long it takes till the Time Servers are accessed.
Then Do a power cycle and document how long it takes till the Time Servers are accessed. Also post if your Advanced Firewall was Enabled or Disabled.

Thanks...

Also thanks for the info on the hidden pages!
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Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185978 Sat, 08 May 2004 09:43:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185558 anon : Flashed to the new 1.50.18.

It seems that now I can only browse webpages with the firewall disabled :(

Enabled I get shite like 'Time Filter Policy Matched' and it drops all packages.
Anyone know what is going on ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185558 Sat, 08 May 2004 08:05:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185498 heytak : will the cable users not have a problem with MTU by enabling and setting it to 1500 than using auto?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185498 Sat, 08 May 2004 07:45:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185249 Eko : Not quite befsx41 related, but the only wired BEFxxnn series "New GUI Style" User manuals are for SR81, SR41v3 and VP41v2. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185249 Sat, 08 May 2004 05:14:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185176 RareDingo : I have also sorted out my FTP problem, I needed to set up the ports one less IE 2020 and 2021 plus I had to also set up the PASV range, now this firmware seems to be doing the do :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185176 Sat, 08 May 2004 04:21:58 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185099 RareDingo : »ttester.broadbandreports.com/twe···terpppoe

I have done as you asked flogater and used Dr TCP not sure if I set it all right. I'm on a ADSL connection at 1500/256 I'll see what difference it makes]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10185099 Sat, 08 May 2004 03:47:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10184623 Flogator : robewhitener, sorry to disappoint you but BEFSX41 firmware 1.50.18 is boring in terms of hidden pages :(. I quickly scan through the firmware binary and could only find those three:

- "http://192.168.1.1/BackupnRestore.htm"
- "http://192.168.1.1/Log4Manage.htm"
- "http://192.168.1.1/SysInfo.htm"

All of the other hidden pages from firmware 1.45.7 are gone :(. Note that as AliM pointed out earlier, this firmware contains three hidden page content that cannot be addressed directly on the router.

- The one about QoS (refer to AliM post here)
- The one about Wireless (refer to AliM post here)
- The one about the WAV54G (see attached picture)

Don't get too exited, I'm afraid that those three hidden page contents are simply forgotten cut and paste mistakes. Nevertheless, nothing to get exited there.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10184623 Sat, 08 May 2004 01:20:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10184336 Quantum : No wonder I wasn't getting any webpage issues, I just recently switched to cable :D no MTU problems I just have it disabled.
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Keep On Folding! F@H H2O Team OCC 12772]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10184336 Sat, 08 May 2004 00:23:41 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10184028 robewhitener : Now it's time to find the hidden, (goodies) pages.. :)

Have a good one all.
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Robert ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10184028 Fri, 07 May 2004 23:34:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183945 Jan Janowski :

said by Flogator :

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Jan, I just checked the BEFSX41 user's guide. It still refers to the old configuration web page. I guess we're by ourselves there as well ;). I got to say that after browsing through the new GUI, it only took few seconds to get used to it.

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I'll find out Sunday!!!!

Later!!!
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Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183945 Fri, 07 May 2004 23:22:55 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183897 Flogator : Jan, I just checked the BEFSX41 user's guide. It still refers to the old configuration web page. I guess we're by ourselves there as well ;). I got to say that after browsing through the new GUI, it only took few seconds to get used to it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183897 Fri, 07 May 2004 23:15:23 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183872 Flogator : robewhitener, thank you very much for your update. That confirms my theory. Users on DSL must tweak their MTU value on their PC. The most important for me is the fact that DSL users can make use of firmware 1.50.18 :). That's good news (and more work for the DSL users who have not yet tweaked their MTU value).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183872 Fri, 07 May 2004 23:12:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183668 Jan Janowski : I've been lurking, reading... I just got home (almost 10P), and work (long hours) tomorrow... Will try it Sunday.... But at the rate you all are going...... I may not be contributing much... (DSL here)

Did any of these new pages/Setups make it to the manual? I hate stumbling around in the dark!!

The fellow who commented that text of blocking wasn't appearing in the logs, try turning off the Advanced Firewall.... That was what fixed it in V1.45.7!

I've another question to the user's... When I rebooted or power cycled V1.45.7, I found that the time between reboot or power up, and Time Server access varied depending on Reboot or Power Cycle, and whether Advanced Firewall was enabled or disabled...

Obviously, during the time between Bootup and Time Server Access leaves filters un-working...

Anyone determine if the Time Server access is closer spaced to the bootup, and does Advanced Firewall enabled or disabled affect the Time Server access???
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Looking for 1939 Indian Motocycle]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183668 Fri, 07 May 2004 22:46:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183667 robewhitener : Here are the results.. Used Drtcp to set MTU to 1492. All of the sites that were not showing up before, are loading now. streaming video from Atomfilms is fine. If any others on DSL can try this. The two machines that are on linksys 80211b WAP loaded the sites up fine without an MTU adjustment. The wired machine MTU needed to be adjusted

go figure.. :)

Home network setup is as follows:

Westell WS2200 - Bellsouth Firmware

SX41 as Router - DHCP Server

WAP11 ver 2.6 WAP --- yeah, yeah, I know it's old. :)

Netgear 8 port switch --- Uplink plugged into SX41
WAP and wired machines are plugged into the switch.

SX configuration currently is as follows:

Manual MTU - disabled
VPN - disabled
DHCP Server - Enabled
Block Anonymous Internet Requests:Enabled
Filter Multicast:Disabled
Filter Internet NAT Redirection:Enabled Filter IDENT(Port 113):Enabled Disabled

UPNP - disabled
Haven't set filters up yet.

I guess I'll leave the SX41 MTU to disable, and adjust from the boxes...
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Robert ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183667 Fri, 07 May 2004 22:46:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183324 robewhitener : I'll try it. I'm relativly familiar with Drtcp.

I'll let you know what happens.

Regards
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Robert ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183324 Fri, 07 May 2004 22:01:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183133 Flogator : Hmmm, indeed, my test unit is on cable modem right now. I don't want to play with my remote sites (which are half on DSL and half on cable) right now. However, sounds like there would be something to chase on the DSL side.

robewhitener and RareDingo, have you ever tweak the MTU metric on your Windows-based PC? I'm asking this because since the very first day I hook my PCs on a DSL connection, I had to tweak their MTU value. I started with ICS so there is nothing to do with the router. If you have never did tweak the MTU, it might be a good idea unless you plan to switch to cable. It just happened that in firmware 1.45.7, Linksys introduced a new behavior about the MTU. By tweaking the MTU on the PCs, everything get back to normal. You may find more information about this at the following FAQ pages:

»Tweaking FAQ

If any of you guys are willing to tweak the MTU and try again with BEFSX41 firmware 1.50.18, that would be very valuable information to post in this thread.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10183133 Fri, 07 May 2004 21:30:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10182678 robewhitener : Hi Raredingo: it's a dsl connection... sounds like we're in the same boat. MTU must make all the difference...
If that's the case, instead of fiddling around with drtcp, I think it's back to 1.45.7...

ah well. Liked the interface. just wish the underlying motor wanted to work well..

Flogater, you're a true master... thanks for all the input.
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Robert ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10182678 Fri, 07 May 2004 20:32:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10182628 RareDingo : robewhitener are you a dsl or cable user. I note that most otf the cable users are very happy with the new firmware but some of the dsl people are having MTU and other issues, like different sites loading etc. I am having the same issues. Sometimes pages will load and other times they just sit and look at me. I have found also I can't set up an ftp server on port 2121 like I had last time, I can log in but get errors telling me 'data socket line error' which I never had before. I will try to fix this over the next few days or I'll have to downgrade, :huh:
flogater thanks for your suggestion re MTU I don't really want to stuff around with the default settings for MTU with XP as I may not get them back and also it seemed to be working well with the previous firmware. I'll just have to keep lookng]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10182628 Fri, 07 May 2004 20:25:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10182374 robewhitener : MTU is disabled. did the long reset. Set up from scratch. BBr comes up fine. a lot of other sites come up fine. I'm currently doing a no risk audit from securityspace.com. Just certain sites. grc.com, ign.com, cnn.com, and a bunch of others just sit there and spin. I'm trying to figure if there's a dns problem on the machine, but I did a ipconfig /dnsflush. I would have thought that would have done the trick. I'm currently stumped... ;(.
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Robert ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10182374 Fri, 07 May 2004 19:55:18 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10182231 Quantum : I can access the web without any problems including grc.com. Do you have MTU disabled?

Have you done a long reset? When I updated the firmware I did the long reset on the router and then setup everything from scratch.
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Keep On Folding! F@H H2O Team OCC 12772]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10182231 Fri, 07 May 2004 19:38:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10181774 robewhitener : so far, the strangest thing that I have found is that I cna't get to certain websites that I had no problem getting to with 1.45.7.

grc.com just makes the browser sit ther and do nothing, as does a bunch of other sites. grc is the one I generally go to first after a FW upgrade. Any ideas?
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Robert ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10181774 Fri, 07 May 2004 18:51:24 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10181265 Quantum : I have been running firmware 1.50.18 since this morning and I have to say that my SX41 on 1.45.7 was having some serious reboot problem everytime F@H would submit data. Now with 1.50.18 the router is definitely more stable no more rebooting problem so far.

On the flip side I am trying to set up an IP as DMZ under the Applications & Gaming tab, but everytime I click on enable the page goes blank. In short I can not seem to be able to enable DMZ, has anybody, working with 1.50.18, encountered this problem?
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Keep On Folding! F@H H2O Team OCC 12772]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10181265 Fri, 07 May 2004 17:53:16 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10180293 jefe : To add (no pun intended), it seems like the filter traps some entries but not others.

I use www.weather.com as a good test site. It generates a bazillion ads, and I've blocked most of them. Lots of yellow "keyword/URL matched" enttries in WallWatcher and lots of red x's in the web page where all the ads would be.

But my entry to block ads1.howardchui.com doesn't work. I still connect to that ad generator every time I go to HoFo.

--jeff]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10180293 Fri, 07 May 2004 15:52:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10180267 Flogator : jefe, you are correct. If the router (either internally or through its SNMP trap logs catched by WallWatcher) time is accurate, it has synchronized its time. Then I must reuse your quote: Bummer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10180267 Fri, 07 May 2004 15:48:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10180232 jbob : I cannot get any of the hidden router pages to work. Anyone else seeing this or is it just me?

I had never heard of the v2 BEFSX41 but I was looking around on the Linksys site and was submitting some feedback and it asked to select which one. I had to look at my Linksys to see if I had v1 or v2.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10180232 Fri, 07 May 2004 15:44:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10180178 jefe :

said by Flogator :

---

I know I shouldn't ask but was the time synchronized in the router at the time you tested the filters?

---

Weeeeellll...I think so. I've never been sure how to know if it is or isn't.

There is a time displayed on the status page, and it appears to be correct. So I think the answer is yes...it's syncronized.

Is my assumption correct?

edit: System log also shows this:

2004-05-07 15:42:14 Get current time from NTP server : May 07 2004 Fri. 15:42:14]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10180178 Fri, 07 May 2004 15:37:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10180039 Flogator : I know I shouldn't ask but was the time synchronized in the router at the time you tested the filters?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10180039 Fri, 07 May 2004 15:18:54 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179876 jefe :

said by Flogator :

---

Let's rename that feature to look like we are introducing a new one:o.

---

Ah so. Well, maybe it will be useful to someone. Not me.

BTW, I may have spoken too soon. I thought keyword/URL filtering was working but now it seems not to be.

I have ad.doubleclick.com and doubleclick set up in the URL filter and keyword fields, for example, and yet I'm still seeing connections to that PITA web site in WallWatcher.

Bummer.

--jeff]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179876 Fri, 07 May 2004 14:56:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179816 Flogator : Ahhh, that one :D. That feature used to be called "Working Mode" off the "Dynamic Routing" tab. This basically allow a user to configure the BEFSX41 as a dummy router and to optionally run some kink of routing protocol such as RIP.

You are correct though. This feature is useless for most users such as us. It comes pretty handy however when you are building a small network, want to create subnets and don't want to spend lots of money in a real router ;). In any case, the "NAT" feature is not a new feature. It is just a remake of an old one that used to be called "Working Mode". I guess it is the same thing as the local loopback isn't. I call that a Marketing game: Let's rename that feature to look like we are introducing a new one:o.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179816 Fri, 07 May 2004 14:49:28 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179703 jefe :

said by Flogator :

---

jefe, thank you for your update. About the Java-based speed test, are you using any of the web filters? Most of the speed test crashes in earlier version were related to these web filters.

---

I was using some filters, Flogator, but haven't recreated them yet. I'll do so now and report back.

said by Flogator :

---

Additionally, about the ability to turn off NAT. Are you referring to the feature called "Filter Internet NAT Redirection"?

---

Nope. See the screen grab. The feature I'm talking about looks like it will actually turn off NAT completely. I haven't tried it yet and I'm not sure I want to. :D

--jeff

edit: I've enabled some filtering. Keyword fileters seem to work well. Speakeast java based speed tests still do not cause reboot.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179703 Fri, 07 May 2004 14:33:38 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179569 dlopez : Thanks for the answer Flogator.

But it would seem ftrace web site ftp server is not working due to everyone probably trying to get the utility.

I still can't believe those bone heads screwed up something as basic as tracert or any other UDP utility. :(

I will keep trying if you have any other suggestions I would love to hear them.

Thanks ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179569 Fri, 07 May 2004 14:17:30 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179496 Flogator : jefe, thank you for your update. About the Java-based speed test, are you using any of the web filters? Most of the speed test crashes in earlier version were related to these web filters.

Additionally, about the ability to turn off NAT. Are you referring to the feature called "Filter Internet NAT Redirection"? If so, that is the feature that used to be called local loopback ;). Now we have the ability to enable or disable it (still don't understand why you would want to disable it though). If you enable the feature, you lose local loopback. If you disable the feature you gain local loopback. The local loopback feature is the one by which you can access your private servers (i.e. web server or email server located on your LAN) by using the WAN IP address.

I suspect that most of us will be beating this firmware even further over the week-end. It'll be very interesting to see the results.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179496 Fri, 07 May 2004 14:08:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179116 jefe : Results here:

I updated using Tftp.exe. Worked first attempt.

I had no trouble connecting to the Net through the router and my SB4200 cable modem. However it took several reboots of the router before I could get to the html setup page.

All settings were reset to factory defaults. Filters, etc, had to be rebuilt.

New html interface. I like it so far, except page changes seem a little slow.

When I reset the router's local IP address to fit with the rest of my LAN, I also had trouble getting the config
manager. Another reboot seems to have taken care of that.

Bock Port 113 available as a choice now.

I have always set MTU to disable/auto. Disable in the new firmware worked for me.

Speed tests nominal. And java based speed tests don't reboot the router, as has been a problem with some earlier versions.

All ports stealthed reported by Shield's Up and BBR scan.

There's a button to turn off NAT! Why would anyone want to do that? Put your entire LAN in DMZ?

You can choose the default NTP server, or user select one. Hallelujah.

I've beat the new firmware up for an hour or so now. Everything seems to work here, and all is stable. Keeping my fingers crossed.

--jeff]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10179116 Fri, 07 May 2004 13:22:40 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10177808 MrMoke : The fact that they are porting code from other models isn't new. They have been doing that for years. It probably goes a long way to explaining why they have sooooo much trouble getting anything to work correctly, and emphasizes several of my longtime complaints:

They spend more time looking for new features than working on fixing the existing ones.

They waste resources by including unusable code, and don't show pages for usable features like save/restore.

Maybe we should start a thread for Linksys programmers, and give them some basic training in the proper use of compiler directive things like:

#include 
#include 
#define WIRED     // or WIRELESS
#define MODEL = 1 //    0=BEFSR41, 1=BEFSX41, 2=BEFVP41
                  // or 0=WRT54G... for WIRELESS
using namespace std;
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
#ifdef WIRED
#if MODEL == 0
    cout << "Include this code for BEFSR41" << endl;
#elif  MODEL == 1
    cout << "Include this code for BEFSX41" << endl;
#elif  MODEL == 2
    cout << "Include this code for BEFVP41" << endl;
#endif
#else
    cout << "Include this code for all WIRELESS" << endl;
#endif
  system("PAUSE");
  return 0;
}

The same techniques could be used to differentiate between DEVELOPMENT and PRODUCTION code blocks.

If you understand enough to get on my case, then you get the point, so don't say it. :)
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10177808 Fri, 07 May 2004 10:31:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10177419 Flogator : dlopez, may I just re-iterate that it is the ICMP-based trace route that is crashing the router. It is the UDP-based trace route you want to use to prevent reboot. If you look in one of my previous post, I put a link to a 3rd party utility (ftrace).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10177419 Fri, 07 May 2004 09:28:33 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10177405 Flogator : humphreysa, if you enable more logs, you will actually see the lease time in the logs ;). Thanks to AliM for his logging trick. To enable it, go to "http://192.168.1.1/Log4Manage.htm" and select the second check box called "System hid_log4Manage". Hit the apply button and you will see something like this in your logs:

WAN LeaseTime=81931 sec]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10177405 Fri, 07 May 2004 09:26:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10177387 Flogator : RareDingo, you can apply the MTU changes to your PC and leave it disabled in the router.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10177387 Fri, 07 May 2004 09:23:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10177380 Flogator : haytak, meant to mention I have tried the following features and they all seems to be working fine:
- SNMP
- Local Loopback (now called Internet NAT Redirection)
- VPN end-point and passthrough
- Was always using SPI firewall
- Port forwarding (mainly for an HTTP server)
- DDNS
- UPnP
- FTP loading up and down (as a client not as a server)

I did not try the following
- Web Filters
- Filters (now in the Restrict Access tab)
- FTP loading up and down as a server
- DMZ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10177380 Fri, 07 May 2004 09:22:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176767 Eko : Router is sending requests to ALL time servers (0.0.0.0 is one you can add) and then waiting for first one to respond. Stupid. Making more traffic then needed. AliM

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176767 Fri, 07 May 2004 06:49:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176598 hananz : 12 hours later .....
had problems with browsing and getting mails
(mtu was disabled) the pages once came and once didn't
mail had the same problem once i got thou and once got
an error

so i went back to 1.45.7 and every thing it working properly (except the thing the doesn't work ;) ) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176598 Fri, 07 May 2004 05:06:40 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176486 dlopez : Linksys=Crap

Amazing a company that is owned by Cisco can't get tracret or any other UDP utility you can think of PingPlotter ver 1.0 for example to work.

Damm out sourced programing staff. :mad:

Anyone have any suggestions for a ICMP based utility.

The interface is a little slow but other than that the only issue I have is the numb nuts messed up tracert of all things.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176486 Fri, 07 May 2004 03:51:30 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176452 Eko : Hi everybody, It seems that Linksys is working on something; check the picture!! Yes, it's QoS. You can't access it, but it is in the firmware code (If not perhaps some remnant from sr81, hmmm, let Linksys to surprise us once). But I'm sure they will NOT add wireless..... they're dragging pieces of code from another models.
Another finding: Secret page Log4Manage.htm now has more options.
AliM

P.S. Anybody heard about Befsx41 V2, shops in Netherlands are selling them.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176452 Fri, 07 May 2004 03:36:31 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176387 machater : Well it works, it's faster but... setting my ntp is still broken from my server!!! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176387 Fri, 07 May 2004 03:13:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176317 humphreysa : I was using 1.50.9 and it kept my settings when upgrading. Cool.

There's only two differences I notice so far, both of which have already been reported. Namely the router cold rebooting for ICMP tracert and the Filter IDENT(Port 113) option on the security page.

I do miss the WAN DHCP client lease time from the 1.45.7 status page.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176317 Fri, 07 May 2004 02:45:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10175993 RareDingo : OK all a follow up, I rang my ISP regards the MTU settings and they recommended 1432 or 1400 straight up. He also suggested I reboot the modem the router and the system to make sure. This I did, so I went back as a last resort a disabled MTU. Low and behold it is now working. I can access other sites and pages including one of my favourites, this one ;)
However, I have no idea why it just started to work on its own, wish I had more knowledge regarding networks and routers to advise you but....
mIRC seems to be intermittent at best and is a good indicator for me of a clean connection as if i get drop outs that's the first indication.
I now have to set up transfers for mIRC and messenger and FTP, sure wish I didn't lose all my settings but....
I'll keep you all posted]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10175993 Fri, 07 May 2004 01:22:12 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10175901 heytak : how about other features in 1.50.18?
SNMP, loopback, VPN, ftp uploading, advanced SPI,web filtering, port filtering, ddns, UPnP, DMZ....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10175901 Fri, 07 May 2004 01:10:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10175650 cghh : As with other recent versions, with 1.50.18, when MTU is disabled and PPPoE is in use, the MTU is set to 1492, which is what one generally wants in this situation (1500 Ethernet max - 8 byte PPPoE header). Web browsing and such is working fine for me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10175650 Fri, 07 May 2004 00:29:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10175320 Flogator : Just to provide additional information about the MTU problem first reported by AxiaThndbird. I have found the root cause and will be reporting the finding to Linksys tomorrow in the morning.

Basically, when the the MTU is enabled in firmware 1.50.18, the router will not allow any packets from WAN-to-LAN that has the "Don't fragment" bit set in the IP flags. The simplest test is the following commands from the command prompt in windows (when MTU is enabled of course):
- ping yahoo.com (this succeed)
- ping -f yahoo.com (this does not succeed)

Packet sniffing on both the WAN and LAN side demonstrated that echo response with "Don't fragment" bit set is dropped by the router. It just happen that when you surf the web that the very first packet being sent by the server (a TCP SYN packet) has the "Don't fragment" bit set in order to establish proper MSS between the client and server. Because the router drops the packet when MTU is enable and this bit is set, then the TCP connection holding the HTTP session between the client and server never get established thereof, no web pages can be viewed. Amazingly enough, this behavior is not present when MTU is disabled in the router.

The current unit I use to test 1.50.18 is on cable modem so MTU is not an issue. At this stage of the game, I am not involving my remote sites (the one on DSL) anytime soon with 1.50.18. Therefore, could anyone testing this firmware and using DSL could post if this firmware works for them when MTU is disabled (but set to a lower value). Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10175320 Thu, 06 May 2004 23:51:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174949 Flogator : Just to add to everybody's comment about trace route. The router seems to be sensible to ICMP-based trace route. I haven't figure it out why yet but will be looking into it soon. Meanwhile, one possible solution is to use a UDP-based trace route utility.

If you are a Linux user, the utility traceroute uses UDP by default. This utility is flexible as by using the -I option, you can revert to an ICMP-based trace route.

If you are a Windows user, tracert only support ICMP-based trace route. If you want to use UDP-based trace route, you have no choice but to turn yourself to a 3rd party software. You can check out ftrace as an example.

I have just tested traceroute in Linux and it is working beautifully ;).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174949 Thu, 06 May 2004 23:07:25 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174872 Flogator : Just to add on AliM's comment about the new default NTP servers in 1.50.18 ;).

- time.nist.gov (192.43.244.18) is a primary server
- time.windows.com (207.46.130.100) is a secondary server
- ncnoc.ncren.net (128.109.193.1) is a secondary server

All three servers are currently replying to NTP requests. The router seems to still be polling the servers once an hour.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174872 Thu, 06 May 2004 22:58:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174804 Flogator : Ok, I finally had a chance to test the firmware myself. Don't have much new information to report other than what has already been found. Between firmware 1.45.7 and 1.50.18, I did noticed one little tiny bug fixed. Here is a quick description of the bug (you'll laugh).

In firmware 1.45.7 and earlier, there is a bug in SNMP. The bug is when you walk down the MIB attributes in the router while DDNS is being used, the SNMP walk will fail after few of the attributes. The failure is not much, it just return the same OID as requested in a get-next command (that should not happen). The work around is easy, you simply have to force the SNMP utility to increment the OID by one on the next get-next ;). In any case, starting in firmware 1.50.18, you no longer require that workaround as Linksys fixed the bug. Youpi!!! Well, the cost of that bug fixed is the following new bugs introduced by the firmware :(

- ICMP-based trace route utility crashes the router (workaround: use a UDP-based trace route utility)
- Enabling MTU hogs the router and thereof makes the internet connection useless (workaround: disable MTU)
- Some items of web pages of the router never shows up (workaround: hit the reload button on your browser)

I guess to be fair, there has been some improvement from firmware 1.45.7. Here they are:
- The default three NTP servers are all working :).
- You can safely specify your favorite NTP server :).
- You may optionally filter the IDENT port (113) (could do it with port forwarding before).
- You may optionally filter local loopback now called Internet NAT Redirection (don't know why someone would enable that).
- The UPnP feature has a new option: Allow users to Disable Internet Access (don't know what that is yet).
- You may now optionally send email alerts to a email account.
- You may run ping diagnostics from the router.

The disclaimer is that I did not tested the filters in this firmware (so don't know if they work). Additionally, I was gentle with the router given all of the reported crashes and internet loss. Other than that, firmware 1.50.18 and 1.45.7 seems to have the same features, bug fixes and limitations. Bottom line, if you are looking for stability you may want to downgrade to 1.45.7 because of the three newly introduced bugs. However, if you want to play a little more, you may hang on to it. With the preliminary tests that I have done, I am willing to keep this firmware on one of my units for a week just to stress it more ;).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174804 Thu, 06 May 2004 22:50:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174491 jansm38 :

said by jammddr :

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Just upgraded mine 20 minutes ago from 1.50.9. Everything works great except for tracert. I barley ever use tracert anyway. Tried it b/c everybody is complaining about it and the router rebooted. I did notice that the router reboots much faster than with the 1.50.9 firmware. One other problem I noticed with the 1.50.9 version was that my router rebooted itself once a week. Hopefully this update fixes that. But now we have a new bug to work with. Hopefully Linksys will fix it.

---

Woo Hoo! Finally, something positive comes from a Linksys firmware upgrade!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174491 Thu, 06 May 2004 22:21:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174333 Dustyn : Will Linksys ever come out with a firmware update that doesn't act like a beta release? :hmm:

More and more they introduce new exciting problems with each release.

Sad... :huh:

EDIT: Linksys does not recommend updating firmware...AT ALL.

--
Cruising down the Sunset Strip,
And there is nothing that's not,
That's not within my grip,
Oh, tonight, I got it right,
Just one time ~ Courtney Love]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174333 Thu, 06 May 2004 22:06:28 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174198 jammddr : Just upgraded mine 20 minutes ago from 1.50.9. Everything works great except for tracert. I barley ever use tracert anyway. Tried it b/c everybody is complaining about it and the router rebooted. I did notice that the router reboots much faster than with the 1.50.9 firmware. One other problem I noticed with the 1.50.9 version was that my router rebooted itself once a week. Hopefully this update fixes that. But now we have a new bug to work with. Hopefully Linksys will fix it.
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"Windows Has Yet To Detect A Keyboard. Press Any Key To Continue..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173965 Thu, 06 May 2004 21:24:52 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173909 RareDingo : OK some help needed here, something weird is happening. Blah, I've lost all my settings to BTW, so I have to go back to them again and set them up eventually.

However after upgradeing to 1.50.18 and following all the recent instructions, I find I can surf my local ISP's pages and Mcafee pages but that's about it. I cannot for example get back into this forum. So I'm back using 14.3 at the moment untill someone can give me an answer.

Look forward to your replies]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173909 Thu, 06 May 2004 21:19:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173650 kirk1233 : ARGH Is there any way to get this firmware to allow tracetoutes to work?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173650 Thu, 06 May 2004 20:49:34 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173438 ElJay :

quote:

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Time servers in different firmwares:

1.50.18 - and all 3 are responding!!!

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Is it still polling the time server every hour?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173438 Thu, 06 May 2004 20:28:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173354 cghh :

said by Jan Janowski :

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said by Konceptz :

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Ive had it since 10am est. It will kill your internet connection unless you disable MTU setting. Its stable otherwise on my end.

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Are you saying if you change MTU from 1500 to 1492 (Like you would for DSL)... you kill internet connections?

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I believe that when you specify PPPoE, the default value for the MTU is (correctly) set to 1492.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173354 Thu, 06 May 2004 20:21:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10172367 hananz : for now (about 10 min) it looks ok....
tracert crash the router
let's hope it will last a day ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10172367 Thu, 06 May 2004 18:32:18 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10171784 Jan Janowski :

said by Konceptz :

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Ive had it since 10am est. It will kill your internet connection unless you disable MTU setting. Its stable otherwise on my end.

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Are you saying if you change MTU from 1500 to 1492 (Like you would for DSL)... you kill internet connections?
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1.50.18 - and all 3 are responding!!!
time.nist.gov
time.windows.com
ncnoc.ncren.net

1.50.9 and 1.45.7
time.nist.gov
time.stdtime.gov.tw
time.chttl.com.tw]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10171682 Thu, 06 May 2004 17:12:46 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10171441 Konceptz : Ive had it since 10am est. It will kill your internet connection unless you disable MTU setting. Its stable otherwise on my end.
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"Windows Has Yet To Detect A Keyboard. Press Any Key To Continue..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10171441 Thu, 06 May 2004 16:47:37 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10171436 casscarr2002 : So is anyone actually using the new Firmware or we all just sitting around waiting for someone to test it :p
hehe, I'm interested.

btw, other than the newest release, what is the common firmware everyone is using or most stable/best whatever.
I'm using 1.45.7]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10171436 Thu, 06 May 2004 16:46:53 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10171383 Konceptz : For what its worth, Linksys now has the firmware on its FTP site.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10171383 Thu, 06 May 2004 16:41:16 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10171255 p2ii : I updated through the router page and it came up fine. Only problem I can see is that enabling mtu hoses internet. It was fine after I disabled it though.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10171255 Thu, 06 May 2004 16:28:00 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10170652 jbob : Don't you mean 1.50.9 or "later"? By the way what are your impressions so far?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10170652 Thu, 06 May 2004 15:21:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10170623 Flogator : In firmware 1.45.7 and older, this capability is located in the "Help" tab of the web configuration page. It is an hyper link called "Upgrade Firmware". If you are using firmware 1.50.9 or earlier later, then this capability is now in the "Administration" tab.

[edit]: Thanks to spot my typos ;).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10170623 Thu, 06 May 2004 15:17:57 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10170574 amish : Quick question. How do you update the firmware using the Routers Config Page?

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10170574 Thu, 06 May 2004 15:13:59 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10170049 BillRoland :

said by xxx1:

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Linksys is crap. Another official release which is bad bad! Having the same trouble as others here, getting an ip but no internet browsing and nothing. It seems that the router is blocking access to the dns servers...

back to 1.50.09

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Same thing I had with the web browsing. It just refused to pass anything. Another buggy release. Having no traceroute just isn't an option for me. Maybe I should have gone with Netgear.
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"Don't steal. The government hates competition."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10170049 Thu, 06 May 2004 14:15:12 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10169965 anon : Linksys is crap. Another official release which is bad bad! Having the same trouble as others here, getting an ip but no internet browsing and nothing. It seems that the router is blocking access to the dns servers...

back to 1.50.09]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10169965 Thu, 06 May 2004 14:05:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10169802 jbob : I concur with lbrinley's results. To take his ideas a step further I:
1) Restore Factory defaults
2) Long Reset
3) Updated via routers browser interface
Router then reset itself after upgrade finished
4) Long reset again
5) Reset Password
6) Reset router to correct time zone
7) Under security/VPN I Disabled IPsec, PPPoE and PPTP
8) I set UPnP to Enabled but disabled other two options
9) Browsed several web pages. Running Yahoo IM. Downloaded a file using WSFTP(the free version) Same result running Shieldsup, all good!

Noticed pages appear fine except some images appear much slowly as he reported. ie UI_07.gif, UI_10.gif. This does not seem to affect page loading.

FWIW I have to power down my cable modem for Router to get a new IP. I'm on Comcast and anytime after a long reset it seems I must do that to get a DHCP IP for router.

I also notice that a few times when changing router pages they come up blank. The first time went to Log it did this. Wheh I tried again it came up right away.

I can verify the router reset when attempting a Traceroute from command line. It also occured when trying NeoTrace 3.25. The router simply resets itself and goes through a Diag cycle and comes back to normal. A ping command has no affect. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10169802 Thu, 06 May 2004 13:44:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10169155 Webmeisterus : Updated via the router's browswer interface. Long reset to factory defaults. No problems. Results:

1) Browser speed test (DSL Reports): same as before ~3Mbps down and ~360 Kbps up
2) ShieldsUp: All Stealth, including 113 IDENT (option selected in new Security page)
3) PCFlank: All Stealth, No Trojan vulnerability, All Stealth from TCP SYN attack.

Problem (minor): interface still slow when loading its graphics, e.g., UI_07.gif, etc.

Problem (not minor): use of tracert to WAN address causes reboot of router!

Looked pretty good until that last one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10169155 Thu, 06 May 2004 12:18:25 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10169091 gww : I am using the router for with default functions and firewall enable. All ports are stealth and it is functioning properly.

Regards, grant]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10169091 Thu, 06 May 2004 12:10:05 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168631 Konceptz : I quit, went back to 1.50.9]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168631 Thu, 06 May 2004 11:07:53 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168555 BillRoland : MTU enabled or disabled had no effect on router stability for me.
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"Don't steal. The government hates competition."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168555 Thu, 06 May 2004 10:56:58 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168527 Eko : After half an hour back to 1.45.7. Web page dialog sluggish, filters works the same as 1.45.7, if I want nice log I need to disable SPI. Less entries for port forwarding. AliM

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168527 Thu, 06 May 2004 10:53:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168518 Konceptz : If you have connection issues with this firmware disable the MTU setting and see what happenes.
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"Windows Has Yet To Detect A Keyboard. Press Any Key To Continue..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168518 Thu, 06 May 2004 10:52:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168428 Konceptz : seems manually setting the MTU kills the connection. At least in my case.
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"Windows Has Yet To Detect A Keyboard. Press Any Key To Continue..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168428 Thu, 06 May 2004 10:39:59 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168421 BillRoland :

said by Konceptz :

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Wait, it seems that if you update thru the router's page the firmware works. At least it does in my case. I used the upgrade tool 1.255 which caused all the problems. Reflashed back to 1.43 and from inside the router's config page reflashed 1.50.18 and now everything seems to be working.

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I flashed thru the router's page the first time. I'm about ready to throw in the towel, I'm going to wait and see what other's results are, and then I may try one more time.
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"Don't steal. The government hates competition."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168421 Thu, 06 May 2004 10:38:32 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168394 Konceptz : Wait, it seems that if you update thru the router's page the firmware works. At least it does in my case. I used the upgrade tool 1.255 which caused all the problems. Reflashed back to 1.43 and from inside the router's config page reflashed 1.50.18 and now everything seems to be working.
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"Windows Has Yet To Detect A Keyboard. Press Any Key To Continue..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168394 Thu, 06 May 2004 10:35:03 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168360 d_l : With those problems, this firmware must be an official release. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168360 Thu, 06 May 2004 10:31:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168337 BillRoland : Linksys- A Division of Cisco System, Inc.
Firmware Date : April 30,2004
Current Firmware : Version 1.50.18
Product Part No. : BEFSX41
Ver #.DateDescription------------- 1.50.18Apr 30, 04
1. Fixed PPTP connection problem
2. Added Filter Ident(port 113) option
3. Fixed abnormal port scanning results
4. Fixed DMZ function
5. Fixed vulnerability that would cause the router to reboot
6. PPPoE PADI does not send the Service name
7. Broke routers ability to browse the internet
8. Added routers ability to crash when doing trace routes or pings
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"Don't steal. The government hates competition."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168337 Thu, 06 May 2004 10:28:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168307 Konceptz : Upgraded, and now all the router was good for was pulling a IP from my ISP. Couldnt ping, couldnt tracert, couldnt pull any page except for the router's.
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"Windows Has Yet To Detect A Keyboard. Press Any Key To Continue..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168307 Thu, 06 May 2004 10:24:32 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168242 BillRoland : I upgraded, ran it for 20 minutes, and now I'm back to 1.45.7. The new firmware turned my halfway functional BEFSX41 into a non functional BEFSX41. I couldn't browse webpages, and TRACERT crashed the unit. Every time I tried to trace something, it did a full reset. I have lost all faith in Linksys. This is stupid.
EDIT: The only GOOD thing I can say about it is that I like the new interface they're introducing in the 1.5 firmware, and it seems to run smoother on .18 than it did on .9, but with the unit not allowing web browsing, and crashing every time I ran a trace route to something, that's just unacceptable. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168242 Thu, 06 May 2004 10:17:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168177 Konceptz : uploading now, will post thoughts]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168177 Thu, 06 May 2004 10:08:55 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168096 Flogator : As I said before, I haven't tested the firmware myself. Don't know yet the quality of it. I agree with you that beta material has been far more superior than official releases. However, Linksys seems to have taken a different approach in releasing firmware so it is very difficult to say. BTW, the term "different approach" does not mean improvement :(. Linksys used to let beta tester taking a first breath before general availability. That is not what happened for 1.50.9 and 1.50.18 :(. I will try to let my disagreement aside and focus on this new firmware. Perhaps (I'm always optimistic) it is a good one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168096 Thu, 06 May 2004 09:58:52 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168053 d_l : Is this supposed to be an official release or a beta release? The beta releases have been consistently superior to the official releases so a beta designation would give me confidence that testing it was worthwhile.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10168053 Thu, 06 May 2004 09:53:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10167979 amish : Thanks.... THough I think I might wait about a month to here results before attempting it.

Sorry to say I have been burned before on the firmware upgrades.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10167979 Thu, 06 May 2004 09:45:18 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10167897 Flogator : The only caveat is I haven't tested it myself yet. It'll either be tonight or over the week-end. Have fun.

[EDIT]: Here is the top portion of the release notes

 
Linksys- A Division of Cisco System, Inc.
 
Firmware Date    : April 30,2004
Current Firmware : Version 1.50.18
Product Part No. : BEFSX41
 
Ver #.DateDescription
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1.50.18Apr 30, 041. Fixed PPTP connection problem
2. Added Filter Ident(port 113) option
3. Fixed abnormal port scanning results
4. Fixed DMZ function
5. Fixed vulnerability that would cause the router
   to reboot
6. PPPoE PADI does not send the Service name
 

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10167897 Thu, 06 May 2004 09:37:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10167876 heytak : hey flogator
thumb up for you as you post the firmware faster than the official site]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10167876 Thu, 06 May 2004 09:34:40 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10167845 Flogator : Ladies and gentlemen, here is the official BEFSX41 firmware 1.50.18 until it is being made available on Linksys web site.

Please post all of your findings to this thread.

befsx41_v1.5···code.zip 454,406 bytes BEFSX41 firmware 1.50.18

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10167845 Thu, 06 May 2004 09:31:17 EDT