barkyPremium
join:2001-03-17
San Diego, CA | reply to caseydoug
Re: Reaching the Modem across a router Have you tried the private wan ip? For mine, its a 172.x.x.x but I'm not exactly sure what you're saying about the setup. I don't even know if the private wan ip forwards in bridge mode.
And then, about my line...
said by edamon:
sounds like they have your card in "safe mode". call them
and ask them to switch out.
I posted in the covad direct forum about this. They say my line is showing its setup as the full 6.0/768kbps, with no interleaving and also good margins. Its a mystery why it doesn't actually go @ full speed but I'm fine with it. Besides, I figure i've already spent enough time on the phone and in the forums trying to get it figured out. |
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| said by barky:
Have you tried the private wan ip? For mine, its a 172.x.x.x but I'm not exactly sure what you're saying about the setup. I don't even know if the private wan ip forwards in bridge mode.
I did, but I can't get through my router to reach it. I even tried setting my computer to use various private subnets other than the one handed out by my router through DHCP. The one thing I did that seems to work is to connect the LAN port of the modem directly to my switch (i.e., on the same side of the router as my computer), and then setting the computer to the private subnet of the DSL modem -- 192.168.1.x, I think. Of course, I loose connection to the internet when I do that, since I'm no longer on my router's subnet. What I need to figure out now is whether I can get my computer to be on two subnets simultaneously, but I need some time to fiddle with that. |
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barkyPremium
join:2001-03-17
San Diego, CA | reply to Cyberonic_RK
Re: 6.0 megs/768kbs is now available What I mean by the private WAN ip is actually best for you to think about as being on the backside of your modem/router. The ip is internal to your modem/router, which I think defines it as the gateway, (but I'm not really sure about this) I don't know if it gets passed over to your head end cpu when you got it in bridge mode. I have the 8 ip package, with my Broadxant running in normal mode (no nat). Comming out of my Broadxant is just one stretch of cat5, going into my switch. From the switch, all my computers are plugged in, and so is another router, so I can locally route across public/private subnets and innerweb connections.
If you want to assign another ip/subnet to your single ethernet connection, its easy (as long as you have windows cause thats all I know how to do it in). This is also what you want/have to do if you're hosting multiple ssl sites, by the way. Just go to network connections, then properties of the ethernet connection you use. On the "general" tab go down to "Internet Protocol(TCP/IP)" and click that then click properties. Now a whole new window comes up. Click the "Advanced" tab. You'll have to assign your main IP first, so it'll have to come from either a sticky PPPoe/a IP pool, or a true static IP pool. Its just as simple as punching in the IP / subnet that you wanna yoink from your pool. Also you'll need to first set the gateway for your primary connection, and give it a metric of "10". Then for the secondary IP / subnet you want to assign, give its gateway a metric of "20". This'll assure your innerweb connection acts through your primary ip / subnet, unless your packets can't reach their destination through that ip/subnet. I've heard you can assign up to about 1,000 IPs to a machine; the only limitting factor being the performance of the server.
It really opens a whole lotta possibilities of what you can do with your computers. On the front end of the machine you can have your public IP(s). On the backside, you can also assign a private IP to that same connection. All you really need is a switch to plug all of your machines and modem/router(s) into. Then you can run dhcp on one of your computers in the network for the private lan.
So, basically what I'm saying is... you should try to find out your wan ip so you can punch that in your browser to see if it works. I can either use 66.xxx.xx.xxx or 172.16.xxx.xxx . The Broadxant knows that im comming from the intranet and not the internet, so I'm allowed in, even though I haven't enabled remote management. So yea, try that. |
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edamon
join:2001-05-18
Marina Del Rey, CA | reply to BBc5
said by BBc5:
will before i have cyberonic that 1.5/768 package with 1 ip i was getting about 1300/650-670 or is about 79kupload at my best test over all is that good speed ? will i get about 90 % of the download and upload for the 6m/768 one ??
you'll get the same upload speed, I suspect you're at about
10-12K feet (I got 80KB/sec on the MCI package at 12500FT).
the download speed at that distance on the 6.0 package
(never got it, I switched to cable but am now switching
back when I move, but will be at 9K) should fall in the
2.5-3Mbps range. Thats what my old modem (speedstream 5660
showed as the max attain. download speed if the cap wasn't
in place at 1.5mbps.
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1 edit | reply to barky
Thanks. My setup is a bit different:
dsl modem --> SonicWall firewall/router --> 16-port switch --> computers on my LAN. The dsl modem is in bridged mode with DHCP disabled, because the SonicWall is both a better firewall and a better router than the Broadxent. The SonicWall performs the PPPoE login, gets the single static public IP from Cyberonic, and serves as the gateway for my private 192.168.x.x network.
I did try typing in the private gateway ip on the WAN side of my SonicWall (172.x.x.x), as well as the private ip on the LAN side of the Broadxent (192.168.1.1). The problem is that neither is on the same subnet as my LAN. It might be possible to add a static route to the SonicWall, using the 172.x.x.x ip as the gateway, and then also adding a LAN subnet of 192.168.1.0 to the SonicWall. However, I found an easier way: I simply connected a free LAN port on the Broadxent directly to a free port on my switch, and then gave the Broadxent a secondary private ip within the subnet of my LAN. This works fine. |
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biggb
join:2004-09-03
Dallas, TX | reply to Cyberonic_RK
I am considering switching to 6.0/768. |
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"6.0/384 and 3.0/768 are also available if you are within 13000 ft from CO."
how come i never knew that there was a 3.0/768 available???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHYYY!!... can i upgrade to this or is it to late? i ordered the 1.5/768 and wanted something faster but i didnt want nothing with a contract or paying for equipment.. so where do i get the info about this 3.0/768 service? |
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edamon
join:2001-05-18
Marina Del Rey, CA | reply to Cyberonic_RK
what is the turn around time to getting the circuit active
with cyberonic/covad?
my move is next thursday - moving the phone line over
tomorrow.
hopefully it's not one of those 3-4 week deals.
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1 edit | well for me its taking over 4 weeks to activate my line, thinking of cancelling because they have bad customer support and takes too long to activate 1 line.  but if i could get that 3.0/768 ill be happy to stay longer to get that service!:) |
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edamon
join:2001-05-18
Marina Del Rey, CA | go for verizon - they are offering 3.0/768 in most areas now
and it's half the cost of the covad/cyberonic package.
I was going to go back to covad/cyberonic, but I'm 9500 ft
out - so i'd pull maybe 4.0-4.3mbps.. for $30 more a month
that extra mbps doesn't justify the cost delta. |
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| well, i wish i live in a verizon area/zone. the closest verizon territory is in Tampa Bay area, and i live in SouthEast Florida (fort Lauderdale). |
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I have an Efficient Networks 5861 router. I just want to know if this router is compatible with Cyberonic/Covad 6.0/768. I call cyberonic tech and said no. Any ideas, greatly appreciated?
P.s. My connection rocks |
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CraigBee
join:2004-07-23
Overland Park, KS | Yes, it is compatible. My Briteport 8120 died and they are sending me a 5861 as a temporary replacement. I don't want the 5861 permanatly because the ethernet ports are only 10mbps and I don't want my home network that slow. |
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lart
join:2002-08-19
united state | reply to Cyberonic_RK
you could get a $20 switch and hook up the router to the uplink on the switch and then your 100Mbps and switched. |
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CraigBee
join:2004-07-23
Overland Park, KS | The 10mbps also adds about 1 to 2ms to pings. I also just don't like having 10mbps gear in my home; it makes me feel dirty and unclean, even after a shower. What if a friend came over for a LAN party and accidentally plugged into a 10mbps port? He would probably request that I commit seppuku and apologize to my ancestors for insulting him and his family. I could never do that to a friend.
If I was willing to accept "less" than the best/fastest internet access, I wouldn't spend the money for the 6M/768K service. If I was willing to accept anything less than the best, I'd just stick with a lower priced service from a lesser provider.
Craig |
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 scoobyPremium
join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL
kudos:1 | reply to Cyberonic_RK
What modem/router/ta is covad/cyberonic shipping with the 6.0/768 service? |
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CraigBee
join:2004-07-23
Overland Park, KS | Briteport 8120. Its great except the MTU is inefficient. Its hard wired to 1452 when using PPPoE, and should be 1492. This causes download to be about 2% slow than they could be. |
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| said by CraigBee:Briteport 8120. Its great except the MTU is inefficient. Its hard wired to 1452 when using PPPoE, and should be 1492. This causes download to be about 2% slow than they could be. I hadn't realized that. I have mine in bridge mode, with my router set to 1492. Any thoughts about that? |
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CraigBee
join:2004-07-23
Overland Park, KS | Bridge mode just passes traffic. The Briteport only forces a 1452 MTU when using PPPoE that is not bridged. If your bridging to another router, that other router will control the MTU. The 8120 is the only router I've ever seen that uses a 1452 MTU. Its wierd.
BTW, it doesn't effect the MTU when using PPPoA. I tried setting my router to PPPoA, but it wasn't compatible with the service I have, so I had to return it to PPPoE.
The other thing that is wierd is that I can upload packets with a 1492 MTU, its just when downloading, the router advertises a 1452 MTU.
If anyone has a fix to get the Briteport 8120 to a 1492 MTU when in PPPoE mode I'd love to hear it!
Craig |
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ffolkes
join:2004-10-26
Franklin Park, NJ | How is it they can offer such speed? I thought DSL was related to distance...so how can they just increase the speed like that?
I called them a few weeks ago, and they told me they'd have to terminate DSL service to my line, wait about a month, then send me new hardware in order to get the new 6/768 package.
I can't be without an internet connection, so this means this package isn't an option for me then.
My friend has Comcast and I just did a speed test there - 3105 down and 255 up! With DSL here, I'm lucky if I break the 1 mb/s barrier (down), although I get 500 kb/s up. 
TM |
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