Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice in VOIP Tech Chat http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r10149957 en Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:33:32 EDT Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:33:32 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10424751 JK Texas : I have callvantage service and have had zero problems with DTIVO or faxing........... well, I take the fax thing back.. the 1st time, it wasn't too successful, but I never have had a problem since. I have the TA plugged into my home network. I really really can't complain about callvantage!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10424751 Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:16:34 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10408620 joako :
said by johnh123 See Profile:
I'm approaching a year without a call on one dtivo, and 3 months on the other. No problems other than the daily nag.


Do what I said, and it wont nag you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10408620 Thu, 03 Jun 2004 02:09:18 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10408180 johnh123 : I'm approaching a year without a call on one dtivo, and 3 months on the other. No problems other than the daily nag.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10408180 Thu, 03 Jun 2004 00:54:36 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176780 dahauss : UPDATE: for short calls with direct tivo over broadvoice at 2400 baud it works.. but for long called I am getting disconnected and tivo says "call interupted".. so I guess it doesnt work 100%]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10176780 Fri, 07 May 2004 06:50:59 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10175135 Placeman : That's weird, because my DishNetwork DVR (522) dials out just fine over Vonage. I did read in another topic that using a DSL filter in reverse helped with sending faxes. Maybe this would also help with DirecTivo.

Here's the topic I was talking about:
»[Vonage] Can finally fax with Vonage!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10175135 Thu, 06 May 2004 23:29:22 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174994 joshj : T.38 sounds good, but I have a hard time believing that will be up and running in the short term on any service, especially since I've never heard anything about it prior to today. In the meantime my Directv-Tivo unit whines at me daily about how it hasn't dialed in. I guess it's not that big of a deal but I sure wish it would go away.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10174994 Thu, 06 May 2004 23:13:08 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173964 joako : They arent going to charge you and if you follow the instructions I posted you wont have to dial in with the tivo either.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173964 Thu, 06 May 2004 21:24:47 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173670 dahauss : So then the other receivers NEVER have to dial in? then what did it mean when I signed up and activated all receivers on the web site "You must have all 3 receivers dial in on the same phone line within 30 days or you will be charged spereate subscriptions for each receiver"???

THanks..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173670 Thu, 06 May 2004 20:51:56 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173144 joako : If they dont dial out for a period of time (~1-2 months) you will not be able to order PPV movies, it will say something along the lines of "For ordering information please call customer service Ext 7xx" instead of "Press select for ordering information"

You can still order PPV online at directv.com (free) or via phone (they charge you a fee), nothing else is affected, they just dont want people ordering PPV with the remote control and then not be able to bill for it because the reciever isnt calling in.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173144 Thu, 06 May 2004 19:57:23 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173047 dahauss : OK, well I took the suggestion and bought the DSL filter, hooked up and external modem to the DIRECT tv tivo and set the modem so that it is 2400 baud, and the 56k tones are turned off. All worked perfectly.. as I said, I am using BROADVOICE (I also have VONAGE and tried it on that and it worked).. I cant go any higher then 2400 baud.. now, I also have 2 other RCA receivers that came with the setup. I am told they need to dial out from time to time. If I dont use PPV, what do they need to dial out for. I dont think there is any way to slow down the modem that is in the rca receivers. DO they need to call out? when I signed up it said I have 30 days to make sure all receivers dial out on the same phone line..

Thanks for your help..

-- Dave]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10173047 Thu, 06 May 2004 19:45:24 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10167082 aaelghat : Not sure if it will work for Tivo, but some people have reported that putting a DSL filter (pigtail first) where a fax machine phone line cord would go, and then plugging the phone line into that has worked for them. See this thread: »[Vonage] Can finally fax with Vonage!!

You can try doing the same by plugging the DSL filter into the Tivo. It doesn't matter how you get your broadband (you don't need to get it via DSL)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10167082 Thu, 06 May 2004 06:31:14 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10155975 joako :
said by roamer1 See Profile:
said by boomertsfx See Profile:
You don't need a phone line for directv (unless you want to order PPV). Sure, TiVo will nag you once a day after a month of not being able to dial, but it will still work.

Or you could do what I did and install a TurboNet card and the tivo will phone home over the internet.

The TiVo side will, but the DirecTV (PPV/access card) side won't.

For a DirecTV DVR ("DirecTiVo") --

- (most) guide updates come via satellite, no phone call required (although the receiver *will* complain after awhile)
- TiVo showcases, etc. are obtained via phone -- this is the ONLY thing a TurboNet will fix
- DirecTV receiver "phones home" by phone

-SC


You dont need a phoneline, MAYBE for the first time you use it, but thats about it (I cant remember if I had to or not). You need to find "TivoScripts" aka "Sleeper's ISO" which is a bootable CD. It will install a hack so that the tivo wont dial in or nag you, among other things it also installs network drivers so you can use a USB-> ethernet device as well as a hack (which I cant live without) that makes the ->| button skip forward 30 seconds, instead of going to the end.

But you have to open the TiVO and your best bet is to have a 2nd harddrive so you can go back to the first one in case you mess something up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10155975 Wed, 05 May 2004 00:25:53 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10154155 ieee1394 : Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but T.38 does nothing for non-fax calls. Also, Broadvox will be deploying equipment that supports T.38 as soon as June.

The only solution for Tivo, DirecTV, etc., is POTS or (better) updates over broadband.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10154155 Tue, 04 May 2004 21:19:48 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10150681 dahauss : you HAVE to have a phone line for the first call with direct tv tivo .. I triedf havening it not call and it keeps telling me it cant use and of the tivo functions until it dials out. so I had to order a phone line. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10150681 Tue, 04 May 2004 15:25:28 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10150114 giasone :
said by dahauss See Profile:
Looks like I am going back to verizon.. is there a cheap phone service for unlimited local and long distance? I just signed up for around $80 for unlimited Local and regional and 5 cents a minute long distance and also DSL service.. totally ditching comcast....

just need to find a better pots plan.. any ideas?

Im still gonna keep my broadvoice line but disconnect my vonage line..


I have DirecTivo and I'm getting ready to deal with this issue because I am planning on dumping SBC once and for all when I get VOIP stabilized.

Right now, it sounds like Vonage has made a change to better support fax/modem. Apparently *99 prepares the line for incoming fax/modem and several people have had successful calls using Vonage. Check out:
»www.vonage-forum.com/ftopic1244.html

Perhaps this is a fix by Vonage, perhaps not -- I have no idea what logic might be in the Motorola TA to resend packets.

The better approach that isn't out there yet is T.38. From what I've read, Broadvox Direct plans on rolling out T.38 with a new ATA device in July (I think).

A short-term solution is to just not use DirectTivo with a phone line and put up with annoyance screen. I've read that some people have gone over a year from their DirecTivo without having it phone home.

The last resort for me would be keeping a POTS line and using VOIP. SBC charges $9.50 for caller ID, $5.00 for privacy manager, $20.00 for long distance in addition to straight service. That's a total of $34.50 in addition to basic phone service. I can do better than $34.50 with a VOIP provider and get a bunch more features. So $27 a month for full VOIP service and ~$20 for basic service for 911 and DirecTivo. Total $47 is still cheaper than my SBC plan for $70 (including fees) that gives me features I want. Now if you're getting a good package with DSL + POTS, then that's a different story. SBC isn't offering anything attractive here in Texas.

What I really hope is that T.38 can be done with the Sipura (does anybody know if this is impossible?), and to have all of the services roll out T.38 as a protocol that can be activated with a code (like *99) and resolve this fax/modem issue once and for all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10150114 Tue, 04 May 2004 14:25:03 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10150067 anon : Anyone using P8 with a standard Directv receiver?

Does the quick 2400 baud call work when the unit calls home?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10150067 Tue, 04 May 2004 14:18:00 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10149957 roamer1 :
said by boomertsfx See Profile:
You don't need a phone line for directv (unless you want to order PPV). Sure, TiVo will nag you once a day after a month of not being able to dial, but it will still work.

Or you could do what I did and install a TurboNet card and the tivo will phone home over the internet.

The TiVo side will, but the DirecTV (PPV/access card) side won't.

For a DirecTV DVR ("DirecTiVo") --

- (most) guide updates come via satellite, no phone call required (although the receiver *will* complain after awhile)
- TiVo showcases, etc. are obtained via phone -- this is the ONLY thing a TurboNet will fix
- DirecTV receiver "phones home" by phone

-SC
--
No-Bull SE US Wireless Info: »www.sewireless.info/
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just need to find a better pots plan.. any ideas?

Im still gonna keep my broadvoice line but disconnect my vonage line..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10149702 Tue, 04 May 2004 13:40:36 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10148318 Neutron1998 : That only works on Series 1 directivos. He has a new, series 2 directivo like me. The expansion slot is no more. We have USB ports but tivo and directv haven't activated them yet. You can hack the box to get them activated but that's a different thread altogether.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10148318 Tue, 04 May 2004 11:08:55 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10147482 boomertsfx : You don't need a phone line for directv (unless you want to order PPV). Sure, TiVo will nag you once a day after a month of not being able to dial, but it will still work.

Or you could do what I did and install a TurboNet card and the tivo will phone home over the internet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10147482 Tue, 04 May 2004 09:05:41 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10146582 dahauss : So what do I do in the mean time? broadvoice is the only phone line I have. How do I get direct tv working?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10146582 Tue, 04 May 2004 02:52:10 EDT Re: direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10146504 dplantz : Directvio and Broadvoice are curently incompatable. I also have a directvio also with Broadvoice. They are working on a solution for data and faxing. It should be working in amonth or two. They will be using a new voip protical T.38 which alows modems to work properly with voip. It adds error corection to the data stream. The problem with voip and data calls is packet loss and the inabilty for the modem to resend the lost packets. T.38 is a great invation that will make me very happen once it is in place since my Directv boxes, fax and alarm system will work flawlesly with voip.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10146504 Tue, 04 May 2004 02:24:40 EDT direct tv tivo with broadvoice http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10143700 dahauss : Does anyone know how to get a brand new philips direct tv tivo to work with Broadvoice,, it dials but does not connect. I tried the ,#034 code to slow down the modem but it still wont connect.. Any help would be appeciated.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10143700 Mon, 03 May 2004 20:52:38 EDT