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Comments on news posted 2009-01-02 16:30:08: Last May, we broke the news that Comcast would be implementing a 250GB monthly bandwidth cap. In October, that cap went live without an official usage monitor. ..

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Jeffrey
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 Needed for customers

I'm sort of against the idea of the cap (please, no big flames on that), but back when DSLR broke the story in May, I was wondering how the average person was going to be able to meter their own use. One can't expect the average person to know how to keep track of their use in a single computer environment (with or without a router)--imagine a household with four or five computers, an Xbox 360, and other devices that download content.

I'm glad Comcast is coming out with this for their customers, and assuming it's accurate and working properly, I think the 3hr time-delay is perfectly acceptable.
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TF

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Yeah, 3 hour delay isn't bad IMO. I was thinking it would be more like 24 hours. I'm sure the delay will get better in the future too.

I guess customers will still be liable for the amount they download after during the delayed window.


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said by TF See Profile :

Yeah, 3 hour delay isn't bad IMO. I was thinking it would be more like 24 hours. I'm sure the delay will get better in the future too.

I guess customers will still be liable for the amount they download after during the delayed window.
If you're getting close to the 250GB cap with 3 hours to spare in the month, I think the best bet would just be to go read a book for 3 hours, or like you suggested, pay for the overage fees.
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reply to TF
i'd like a fancy LCD display that hooks right up to the modem that announces when you've hit certain milestones (100gb, 150gb and so on). maybe it could start flashing or play some cool music too.

even better, how about a ranking system for people to actually see how they do compared to other users. totally anonymous and on an opt-in basis only of course.

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T'will be interesting...

I have a ballpark idea of how much bandwidth I use in a given month, and I have an idea I'm probably slightly right of center on the bell-shaped curve. But I'll be very interested to know "officially" how much is moving through that little blue modem on the shelf, factoring in 4 PCs, 2 laptops, DirecTV, XBox, and who knows what else.


tmh

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How long before you hit the cap?

How long will it take before a household running Netflix, Hulu, and a couple of PCH A-100s hit the cap.

TF

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Yeah, streaming HD content to the TV, playing Xbox 360 online, and downloading large content on the computer could add up but I don't think I would hit the 250Gb amount. That's a lot of data IMO.
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reply to tmh
Would take quite some time. I do heavy downloads at times, I've had 40+ GB in 24hrs when I was on OOL, but I don't see anyone but the P2P maniacs getting close to that limit.
Quality video is in the neighborhood of 500M for 1hr, that gives the equivalent of 500hrs/month. 4 people watching 4 hours/day, everyday. If you're on the computer that much you need to get a life.


perki

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This Is going to be fun

Ive always wondered how much bandwidth i use. My guess is 200 gigs a month. Between the Zune Pass, Xbox Live, Netflix, Hulu, and Direct 2 Drive.

brianiscool

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haha

I am going to have so much fun with this monitor. If I know I have a day or two left before my next billing cycle for sure I will be downloading like crazy on that day. lol


Chiyo
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Re: This Is going to be fun

Well until they drop this tool they better not bother me about cap overages or anything. If they do I'll fire back they don't have a tool to show me proof of usage.


Corporate_Greed

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Re: haha

Even if u havent hit your cap yet, u will still be throttled.


dadkins
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Meh!

I have a Very Good Friend that bought me a new Linksys and flashed DD-WRT on it then shipped it to me.

meter Schmeter.
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fiberguy
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reply to bender
Re: Needed for customers

I think you're going to start seeing more of that. Belkin is already making a router that shows you the overall speed of your network connection. (though the router generally has poor reviews) I think you're going to start seeing that kind of stuff coming to be more normal soon.

scjr

join:2003-08-27
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It's 250 GB Now...

When will it become 200 GB or 150 GB and so on? That's the real issue with the cap. There will come a time when Comcast will say 250 GB a month is too much.

scjr


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Re: How long before you hit the cap?

said by cowboyro See Profile :

If you're on the computer that much you need to get a life.
... or a new set of legs, eh?
Computers are all I have to keep me from Cabin Fever.
Even so, I kill Comcast at 30 - 35GB per month... and yes I download movies.
250GB? Please!
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reply to Corporate_Greed
Re: haha

I can guarantee you VPN will not be throttled.


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Xbox LIVE

For everyone that plays on the xbox (or PC for that matter) I will give you some interesting stats. Last month, between Dec 2nd and Jan 2nd, I equipped my router with tomato, and monitored the wireless usage only (i have two other computers hooked up, the xbox is the only device in the house that is wireless).

I totaled about 50 hours this month on Xbox live, for Gears of War 2 (die you locust scum!!). All in all? 940Mb.

Not even 1 gig.


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Source of bandwidth data

I'd like to know what the actual source is that they'll be graphing from.

Why?

Because on cable networks, ARP broadcasting is absolutely insane. I sincerely believe there's 50-60kbit/sec worth of traffic that's just ARP.

Thus, I'd like to know if the source Comcast will be using will be from the network switch port (which would include such), or if it will be IP datagrams only.
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