Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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|  well...
once the vast vast majority of the country has access to broadband, then I think VoIP will finally have its day in teh sun and the "price point of zero"--by then, there will be a lot more people who actually know what VoIP is and who are more accustomed to the Internet....that said, I don't think this will be a "dream" realize in the next 5 year...I'm thinking more on the end of 10-20 years down the road.
That said, the day when most everyone uses the Internet to make calls, and the price is zero (or very close to it), it'll definitely be very very nice...hopefully, by then, wideband will have taken over.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
 ·Comcast
| No...
... VoIP is killing traditional phone service providers.
Cable voice is REALLY taking a bite out of their customer pool. 
My CDV is great, and cheaper too!
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
|  Business Use
Businesses are also a big driving force behind VoIP. We have 10-15 VoIP lines all connected to a Virtual PBX and it costs less than $500 a month. No one has a product (that's not VoIP based) that can come remotely close to the price/features ... especially not the Verizon, AT&T, or the MSOs. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| reply to Fox McCloud
Re: well...
said by Fox McCloud  :That said, the day when most everyone uses the Internet to make calls, and the price is zero (or very close to it), it'll definitely be very very nice...hopefully, by then, wideband will have taken over. The price point will never be ZERO as long as people need cust svc support to help them out with problems. People cost money and businesses will charge for that.
And before someone brings up the ad supported business plan, will you use a voice service that interrupts your call for a commercial? Say every 10 mins, you have to interrupt your conversation for a 30 sec ad(like a Hulu video).
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| reply to Matt
Re: Business Use
Traditional PBX installs are going away. The last time I attended a QOS class which many VOIP engineers attend about 80% of the class was filled with traditional PBX guys retooling themselves for VOIP.
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: well...
said by TKJunkMail :said by Fox McCloud :That said, the day when most everyone uses the Internet to make calls, and the price is zero (or very close to it), it'll definitely be very very nice...hopefully, by then, wideband will have taken over. The price point will never be ZERO as long as people need cust svc support to help them out with problems. People cost money and businesses will charge for that. And before someone brings up the ad supported business plan, will you use a voice service that interrupts your call for a commercial? Say every 10 mins, you have to interrupt your conversation for a 30 sec ad(like a Hulu video). let me rephrase that---for some VoIP, the price will probably be zero, but the only people that will use it are the tech savvy--the "near zero" will be the VoIP which has customer support.
now, if phones had a small video display, ad-supported VoIP might work :P
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Lenagainster
join:2005-01-07
Silver Spring, MD
 ·VoicePulse
 ·DIRECTV
·magicjack.com
| filling a void
VoIP is just filling the gap between the overpriced landline to the overpriced cellphone. Once cellphone services become reasonable and affordable, landlines, VoIP, digital telephone, skype-type services will go the way of the horse and buggy. Why have your source of communications be tied to your house? |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| reply to NOCMan
Re: Business Use
said by NOCMan :Traditional PBX installs are going away. The last time I attended a QOS class which many VOIP engineers attend about 80% of the class was filled with traditional PBX guys retooling themselves for VOIP. I believe it. Even when I was looking into a traditional PBX back in 2003, the guy strongly suggested we connect it using IP phones with some sort of SIP trunking. |
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priller
join:2000-10-20
Gainesville, VA
·voip.ms
·Callcentric
·Vonage
·callwithus
| reply to Fox McCloud
Re: well...
Unfortunately, the cable co's have managed to convince the general public that their $40/month service is actually a great deal! Unbelievable. Of course, Joe Consumer has no clue that it's VoIP .... it's "digital voice", right?  |
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TF
join:2008-12-17 | Bye Bye Landline ... and VoIP
We just dropped our VoIP and are using Cells only. Liking it thus far. If I were to ever get another home phone, I would go back to VoIP. See ya landline!
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travelguy
join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM
1 edit | reply to Lenagainster
Re: filling a void
said by Lenagainster : Why have your source of communications be tied to your house? Because bandwidth intensive applications, like video in all it's various flavors, will never be able to be provisioned over wireless. There's some basic physics at work. Once you have the pipe in place to do video, the marginal cost of doing voice, messaging, alarm monitoring, meter reading, etc., is essentially zero.
Now, once they get the bugs worked out out quantum mechanics... |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to TF
Re: Bye Bye Landline ... and VoIP
said by TF :We just dropped our VoIP and are using Cells only. Same here. My wife and I have been cell only since... hmm... 2003 I think? I haven't seen a need for a landline at all.
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Lenagainster
join:2005-01-07
Silver Spring, MD
·VoicePulse
·DIRECTV
·magicjack.com
| reply to travelguy
Re: filling a void
said by travelguy :...Because bandwidth intensive applications, like video in all it's various flavors, will never be able to be provisioned over wireless.
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NEVER??
In any case, I thought we were talking about voice communications. Why have your PHONE tied to your house? |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | When vonage goes down hopfuly a better VoIP will rise.
Like one of the top five from DR's gbu.
either that or formerly standalone ISP will get their own VoIP, earthlink is one that has done that. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to Lenagainster
Re: filling a void
said by Lenagainster : Why have your PHONE tied to your house? Maybe because I rarely go out?
No need to keep it on a charger.
Always a great connection - no "bars" required.
Yeah, I own a couple cell phones... just incase.
Moms has no need or want for a cell either.
$44 per month(fees included) and she can yak for hours without a battery dying - and since it's CDV, it doesn't rely on internet to work! 
Pros and cons on both sides, it depends on what works for the individual.
As they say, YMMV.
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travelguy
join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM
| reply to Lenagainster
said by Lenagainster :I thought we were talking about voice communications. Why have your PHONE tied to your house? Reread this sentence: Once you have the pipe in place to do video, the marginal cost of doing voice, messaging, alarm monitoring, meter reading, etc., is essentially zero. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to Fox McCloud
Re: well...
said by Fox McCloud :once the vast vast majority of the country has access to broadband, Cosidering who ISPs don't care about providing service to people in rural areas I'd say this will happen um NEVER. |
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iansltx_
@spcsdns.net | reply to travelguy
Re: filling a void
So why do plenty of phones in Europe have cameras on their fronts? of couse you can do video over wireless! |
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travelguy
join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM
| said by iansltx_ :
So why do plenty of phones in Europe have cameras on their fronts? of couse you can do video over wireless! There's a substantial difference between a little postage stamp sized, low resolution cell phone video, and a full up HD video channel. |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000
clubs: | reply to priller
Re: well...
i don't understand how consumers see $40/month for cable voice and think that's a better deal than telco's rip off. no one looking at the numbers? |
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