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Comments on news posted 2008-12-05 13:20:50: User [user=Cheese] sends in a link to this Daily Tech report that claims Amazon's lawyers quickly killed a new Firefox plugin that directed Amazon shoppers to free, pirated alternatives via a link next to every book, CD, or film. ..

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Matt
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 Yeah ... right

Someone is in CYA mode.


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 And what do we know about the Netherlands?

That's a little TOO random. Someone behind the scenes is pulling the strings more than likely. Hmm, the pirate bay may not be responsible for the link, but what about the content found on the pirate bay? I guess they aren't responsible for what's on their website?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like a red herring has wormed it's way in on this, and someone bit.

DTStone

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Pirate Bay...

Pirate Bay hosts no content. It's just a search engine.

The 'art project' thing is, however, rather amusing.


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Amazon who?

What was Amazon's reason for the takedown notice?

Surely, there is no reason to stop someone from distributing a plug-in and surely there is no reason to stop people from installing it if they want to.

The plug-in could have redirected people to the Border's web site instead of TPB. No difference.


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Re: Yeah ... right

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Someone is in CYA mode.
I agree. I'll bet the school involved got real worried after the schools students put this project out for public consumption.


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Under what law can Amazon take action?

FBI sure. The MPAA/RIAA sure. My point is those products aren't Amazon's intellectual property so how is this plug in actionable by Amazon's lawyers?

With their logic any "price comparing" plug-in that directs away from Amazon products would be actionable.


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I was curious about this as well, and fired an e-mail to a lawyer friend. Would there be much of a case against a plugin, created in the Netherlands, that doesn't actually change the target website?


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Anyone care to share

Crap, I didn't get a chance to grab the plug-in. Anyone wanna email it to me?

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Re: Under what law can Amazon take action?

if it really was where it says its from it US laws would be totally powerless and if the MAFIAA wanted action they would have to suffer the stress of Netherlands laws where they dont already have 60% share of the government on their payroll.
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said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I was curious about this as well, and fired an e-mail to a lawyer friend. Would there be much of a case against a plugin, created in the Netherlands, that doesn't actually change the target website?
The thing about law suits (in the U.S.) is that anyone can file a law suit against anyone else for any reason. The only thing it takes is money for court costs and lawyer fees. Once a person is sued, they have to respond otherwise he/she will lose the suit.

If a large corporation decides to sue you, it's going to take a large amount of money and time to defend yourself, even if you have a good chance of winning the suit.

This is the MPAA/RIAA's method of operation. Many people would rather settle than go through that process.
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Re: Under what law can Amazon take action?

said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I was curious about this as well, and fired an e-mail to a lawyer friend. Would there be much of a case against a plugin, created in the Netherlands, that doesn't actually change the target website?
It did however change the display of the Web Site between the time it was sent by Amazon and when it was displayed on the user's screen. Thus it was, in theory, in the same class as the man-in-the-middle injection of ads that was occurring a while back and was discussed here. Thus I think that the same arguments that applied to the Ad Injection can be claimed to apply here. I am not saying that Amazon has a case but only that one may be possible to make.


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The correct response to Amazon is to file a counterclaim

If in fact this was considered a parody and art as the authors claimed, they ought to file a counterclaim against Amazon's DMCA takedown notice.

I wonder if they got in touch with the EFF, and what they might say about this. It sounds like something which is within the scope of their work.
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said by PolarBear See Profile :

Crap, I didn't get a chance to grab the plug-in. Anyone wanna email it to me?
Look around. It is still available.


odinb

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Here it is:
»torrentfreak.com/files/piratesof···azon.xpi

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Re: Under what law can Amazon take action?

The link scanner on my antivirus changes the display of search results from Google, by placing an green icon next to links it deems safe to visit. It does it on my PC as the page is loading, and is somethng I willfully installed. Same as the Amazon plugin. Amazon has no say what happens on your own PC with a plug-in you installed yourself. It only changes your view of the page, not everybody's.


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Re: Anyone care to share

Thanks! I got it!

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Re: Under what law can Amazon take action?

Copyright violation? Infecting content into Amazon's copyrighted webpages?


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I've never actually seen screenies of how it works. Does it 'inject' into the HTML sorta like Nebuad? On the flip side, the end user can certainly pick and choose what they want to display (just like ad blocking). In this respect, it's not like Nebuad when changed the HTML code (to inject the javascript that inserted the ads) whether the end users wanted it changed or not.
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