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R.I.P Mike
Premium
join:2001-03-31
Brentwood, CA | As always. One word : CLEC! | |
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 | squison
join:2001-07-07
Decatur, GA | Re: As always. Yep! That's my plan once this comes to my area. | |
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kfsutops
Premium
join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
clubs:  | Collusion anybody? How ironic that AT&T moves this to Beaumont right along with TWC? | |
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qworster
join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA
1 edit | Like I said earlier... Less for more! The american way!
This is what happens when greed takes over.... | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Beaumont residents need to move in droves That would speak volumes. | |
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ztmike
Mark for moderation
Premium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN | Jesus Christ..morons. So much for a "next-gen" broadband network for U-Verse
LOL | |
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| Flip1105
join:2008-07-04
Richmond, TX | Re: Jesus Christ..morons. ztmike you got that right. I thought U-Verse was supposed to be next-gen broadband too! I guess it is just a POS broadband network brought to us by AT&T. | |
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| wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | Next generator of revenue!
See, it is a next-gen network!
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tscotty
join:2005-07-04
Saint Charles, MO | Very Sad day for Users of AT&T. Very sad. I am an AT&T customer and see this to be a poor trend. This is part of the reason why the United States is so far behind in the internet access race. | |
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jchastn
@comcast.net | Re: Very Sad day for Users of AT&T. Its the reason that the US is behind in EVERYTHING. Shareholder greed. Invest in real growth, not in "skewer the consumer" schemes. | |
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Flip1105
join:2008-07-04
Richmond, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
 ·T-Mobile VoIP
| If my math is correct If my math is correct I can use my 18 Max uverse service at full speed for approximately 45 minutes a day for a month or if I get really wild and crazy I can use it 23 hours straight. So if I have 5 family members (which I do) and we all use the internet everyday we can now only use it at full speed for 9 minutes a day. Sounds like we will start having to ration the tubes we are using around my house.
I will have to cancel my kids Xbox accounts, PS3 accounts, no more club penguin for my little girl and no more on-line soaps for my wife. I will have to tell all of the people that send me a bill via email to just start sending it regular mail. Also reminds me to tell ATT to stop sending me crap email as it is using my bandwidth.
I guess when I call maybe I should just cancel some of their services that I already pay 200 bucks a month for so I can save some extra money in case I do go over and get charged a ridiculous overage charge. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by Flip1105  :If my math is correct I can use my 18 Max uverse service at full speed for approximately 45 minutes a day for a month or if I get really wild and crazy I can use it 23 hours straight. So if I have 5 family members (which I do) and we all use the internet everyday we can now only use it at full speed for 9 minutes a day. Sounds like we will start having to ration the tubes we are using around my house. Yes your math is right. However you are rarely are going to max out your connection. For example if your kids played on Xbox Live 24/7 they'd use maybe 40 GB a month if that. And that's 24/7. Sites like Hulu that stream TV shows even in "HD" format streams at less than 2.5 Mbps. SD is less than half that. So your wife could watch her soaps for about a hour a day in "HD" format before using up her share which would be 30 GB. I am assuming you are dividing bandwidth evenly 5 ways 150/5=30 GB each. Most youtube videos stream at 320 Kbps so you could watch 7 1/2 hours of youtube a day before using your 30 GB. Your kids club penguin playing wouldn't eat up 30 GB a month even if she played 8 hours a day.
I suggest getting a bandwidth monitor for each computer or if your lucky your router ( assuming you are using one ) has one bult in. That way you can tell how much you are using.
I guess when I call maybe I should just cancel some of their services that I already pay 200 bucks a month for so I can save some extra money in case I do go over and get charged a ridiculous overage charge.
I fully suggest speaking with your wallet and canceling every other serice you have with them and tell them why. when at&t see how much revenue they are losing by having millions of customers do that they'll stop with these caps. | |
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votewithdawallet
@ameritech.net
| Re: If my math is correct That is the best way to do it, vote with your wallet and tell them that metered internet access is not the way to go.
Even though 95% may never reach those caps, the fact is, we don't want to be bothered or monitoring usage in a family household. | |
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crookedtrails
@csulb.edu
| Pressure your city council Get your city council to let other companies move into your area under the condition they allow unlimited data. Since these companies have to use public right-of-way (e.g., electric poles), you do have some say in the activities allowed in your area. Find out when their contract is up with the city, or threaten them with difficulty implementing new technology using city right-of-ways unless they reverse their way. Depending on the size of the city, and demographics there (amount of profit that a company can expect), they will be more likely to reverse their action. | |
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megarock
join:2001-06-28
Saint Louis, MO
 ·Charter Pipeline
| bah, AT & T has suk'd since the beginning of time . . . It's as simple as this - you meter my connection and instead of paying for 16Mbps I'll just pay for 1Mbps because the web would be pretty much worthless for anything except surfing pages and I can do that fine on the lowest package available.
That's how you fix that metering problem. BIG LOSS OF INCOME FOR THEM. | |
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computerpimp
join:2004-06-28
1 edit | AT&T Needs to get a clue. I've had 6mbit DSL for 6 years and they haven't offered anything new until recently. They have had many years to build up their network and plan for growth. The "bandwidth hogs" argument is getting old. Their old AUP used to say that you wouldn't exceed the capacity of your line or generate more traffic than it can handle. Given that I get 4.9mbit down, and 608kbit up with the DSL overhead even if I kept my line burning 24/7 both directions I wouldn't even hit my max of what I "should" get.
They have no excuse for complaining now about bandwidth hogs when they are offering VDSL speeds up to 18mbit after getting their heads out of the sand with speed, only to stick it back in. They should advertise "hit your caps faster with higher speeds."
My calculations for what my line is capable of is 53.57gb down and 5.18gb up per day. And I have had all this potential since 2002. AT&T's calculations is I am worth at least $1400 to them if I burn my line 24/7 for a month. My monthly usage has hit up to 800gb at one time a few years back, and can average around 200-400gb/mo. I have always had this capability and this is what my usage looks like but varied per month for the past 6 years. Even though my line is "business class" static the same existed for the dynamic accounts.
They spent around $2 billion on other things, then they are making the customers pay, by announcing caps a short time later.
»AT&T To Buy Centennial Communications
»AT&T Acquires Wi-Fi Operator Wayport
»AT&T's Bill From Apple Comes Due: $900 Million
The only other one in my area is Charter so basically it is AT&T or nothing. | |
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| morgan1112
join:2003-04-07
Round Rock, TX
2 edits | Re: AT&T Needs to get a clue. I'm so ticked off at AT&T about these usage CAPS! This is absolutely the wrong direction to be going. I can't wait until their plan fails and it will. This is pure greed and it will come back to bite them. I'm definately going to vote with my wallet as soon as these CAPS hit Austin, TX. I'll switch to Cricket wireless or simply surf using a Sprint PDA phone to get away from these rediculous companys that want to charge by the gigabyte. Timewarner and AT&T can go jump off a cliff. | |
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caparappa
@sbcglobal.net
| Re: AT&T Needs to get a clue. That's not how you solve the underlying problem, we should not have to do something as drastic as this. That's like saying, you can only get one tire from our store, so you should get the other 3 at 3 other stores.
They should just raise prices AND keep unlimited access, or don't bother to offer speeds above 1.5 mb if their network can't handle it. | |
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jkeelsnc
join:2008-08-22
Boone, NC
| Listen to us AT&T Dear AT&T,
I have posted on DSLR many times and apparently you have been ignoring my threats. If you implement caps in my region (southeast) I will leave your company and you will lose the precious revenue that you can at least get to cover the expense of operation your ancient copper based POTS lines. As it is I am happy with my service now. If caps are imposed I will not explain to the representative why I am cancelling service. That should be necessary. I will simply explain that I can no long afford the service (which would be true) and then I will switch another competitor in my market (cable company).
AT&T, please consider what I am telling you. I will not tolerate being fleeced on the grounds of hyped up charges of "exafloods" and inadequate bandwidth.
Have a nice evening,
Current Precious Customer in North Carolina | |
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| morgan1112
join:2003-04-07
Round Rock, TX
| Re: Listen to us AT&T Here is what I sent AT&T through my U-verse account login page:
If you implement metered billing for U-verse Internet Services in Austin, Texas I will reduce my current Voice, TV and Internet packages to the lowest levels and begin shopping for another provider. I do not wish to do business with a company that imposes these kinds of policies on all customers to curb the usage of a few while attempting to disguise the fact that you are squeezing customers for more money under the guise of a supposed improved customer experience. Charging $1 for every Gigabyte above and beyond your usage caps is insulting and greedy. I also plan to tell all my friends and family about what you are planning. I hardly think you will find anyone who will agree with this billing policy. Get ready for a tremendous amount of customer back lash! | |
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join:2008-07-04
Richmond, TX
·AT&T U-Verse
·T-Mobile VoIP
| Re: Listen to us AT&T said by Authority :Come on people, this is inevitable economics. There simply isn't enough bandwidth on the planet for everyone to use their connection to maximum capacity at all times. The current pricing models were created at a time when no one could have used that much bandwidth... no that P2P applications can and do utilize the full connection a new paradigm is needed. Electricity isn't unlimited... water isn't unlimited... why do people seem to think bandwidth should be? I'm happy to pay for what I use, You can't use their Max18 (at full capacity) service for more than 45 mins a day without going over your CAP. Now split that among a family and I am telling you that a lot more people will be going over their CAP and getting stuck with a huge bill. If they want to introduce a CAP at least make it fair. I will also write to my state representatives if this is implemented and suggest that they start regulating ATT Internet like a utility. This is nothing about using it 24X7. | |
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jsz0
join:2008-01-23
Jewett City, CT | Re: Listen to us AT&T They be floating a low cap so they can get better PR when they suddenly increase the cap when this goes live nation-wide. Just simple perception management at work. | |
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wase4711
@sbcglobal.net
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cookeys
| ATT Caps I think the new administration will be watching these types of actions very closely...Remember, the current administration has always sided in favor of big business, but, the times they are a changing... | |
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Ms76576f
@teksavvy.com
| Re: ATT Caps quote:
"Remember, the current administration has always sided in favor of big business, but, the times they are a changing...
You think OBAMA will tell the Telcos to eliminate caps?!
Um..are you clinically insane??
ALL politicians are in bed with the Telcos!! | |
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fredpb
join:2002-11-01
Greenwood, SC
1 edit | Caps for the brats! Yeah! My internet is SC is maxed out. The internet from 7pm to 11pm is near useless because embarq is just overwhelmed.
So ATT's premise that there will be bandwidth problems
seems logical to me, as I am experiencing it NOW.
I can't complain much, though. I have the Netflix Roku box. Don't use it much, and usually only after 11pm. | |
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| computerman2
Premium
join:2002-04-20
Rockwood, MI
 ·AT&T Midwest
1 edit | Re: The real problem... Hopefully won't affect us too bad, have 4 Desktops, and 2 Laptops--Normal usage is online gaming myself, youtube for upstairs PCs, some Hulu, Secondlife usage here with streaming music and video usually on there at least 12 hours a day or more.
As far as Router is concerned have at&t 2wire 2701 dsl modem/router after our netgear died, we decided to get the 2wire,i'm assuming the 2wire doesn't have any bandwidth monitoring though for the entire network. I'm in Michigan so the cap isn't here yet, just getting prepared slowly, i would consider getting a different modem and router if i had to though, still have my old speedstream 5100B modem, but old router is dead as can be, and the 2wire works best with all our wireless PC's, no more dropping of wireless signal like with old router
As For Mcafee Security suite suppose could install that on all the Pc's, but some are low end with only 512mb's of ram or 1gb of ram--upgrading ram isn't an issue though, could do that easily, this machine has 4gb, desktop 2-2gb of ram, laptop 1.5gbhs(techically 2gbs) but with shared video memory a little less), and laptop 2 2gbs of ram, and Desktop 3(512mbs of ram) and 1gb for Desktop 4. Would Mcafee run just fine with the memory on those PC's | |
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dark
@dmerz.net | Re: The real problem... yes it is | |
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growthumbs
join:2008-10-31 | Wont pay for this If they do spread this nationwide into my city. I won't pay and go somewhere else or do without the Internet. This is Garbage, sticking it to the little people. | |
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aelfwyne
join:2004-01-28
Beaumont, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| grr... and I live in Beaumont. Great..... just great. I live in Beaumont and currently don't have internet (financial trouble).... I had RR and was going to switch back to AT&T... now there are no choices.
Outside of cellular internet or satellite, there are no choices here that I know of.
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If it ain't broke..... You didn't overclock it enough. | |
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Rekrul
join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT
| Ignoring one thing said by Authority :Come on people, this is inevitable economics. There simply isn't enough bandwidth on the planet for everyone to use their connection to maximum capacity at all times. The current pricing models were created at a time when no one could have used that much bandwidth... no that P2P applications can and do utilize the full connection a new paradigm is needed. Electricity isn't unlimited... water isn't unlimited... why do people seem to think bandwidth should be? I'm happy to pay for what I use, You're overlooking one simple fact: All internet accounts are already capped simply by virtue of the fact that your speed dictates how much you're able to download.
In other words, if you pay for 6Mb service, you can only download at 6Mb. This means that even if you were to download 24/7, there would still be a finite amount that you could download in a month. Granted, it's quite a bit, but there's still a limit. You can't go over this limit, no matter what you do, because your speed is fixed.
What AT&T is effectively saying is "We sold you a level of service that we can't support and that we knew we couldn't support when we sold it to you. So now we're going to impose an even lower limit and charge you extra if you use the service you pay for." | |
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savedainternet08
@sbcglobal.net | Re: Ignoring one thing
Some people seem to think that the internet is some kind of natural resource, should we have greenpeace get involved here?
The internet is an entity that the telcos want to control period, IT IS NOT A RESOURCE!! | |
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denzilla
@bellsouth.net | Jump of the fence and pick a service to provide! ISPs shouldn't be allowed to be both the internet provider as well as a content provider. Its a conflict of interest and anti-competitive. | |
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ispcontrolspipes
@sbcglobal.net
| Re: Jump of the fence and pick a service to provide! We need a national fiber infrastructure highway not controlled by private business, but open to ISPs, wholesalers, content providers, ISPS. We need to bring back mom/pop ISP's that know how to service people. We need a LEVEL playing field, this will create jobs and improve innovation. | |
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internet1stgroop
@sbcglobal.net
| Save the internet resource! Join Hippies forPeople who think it is ok to cap/throttle/filter teh internet remind me of this clip:
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=VThQr8fDiLA
and this clip:
»www.southparkstudios.com/clips/166190/
"We MUST save the internet for it is a PRECIOUS resource which CANNOT be wasted. BooHooo! From now on, we must ration the internet or there will be an EXAFLOOD! BTW, I am also a shareholder of (insert telco name here) so I enjoy whatever services to be taken away, while prices go up, so that I may enjoy filtered/capped/throttled internet access. After all it is a RESOURCE like you know coal and gas and trees, and it might run out someday..you betcha! (Palin wink). And to further our "save the internet" mantra, we have hired Joe The Plumber, because (you know) he is so informed about things socialism or what not." | |
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