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Comments on news posted 2008-11-29 12:15:25: One technology sector that isn't expected to be hurt by a struggling economy is wireless data. ..

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Maggs
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$40 a month for 455MB

That's a total ripoff. Wireless data is useless with the insane latency.
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said by Maggs See Profile :

That's a total ripoff. Wireless data is useless with the insane latency.
The caps are generally 5 GB/mo and not 455 MB/mo. The 455 is the expected monthly average.

And unless you are gaming, the latency is irrelevant and has been improving with the 3G rollouts.

AVonGauss
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

And unless you are gaming, the latency is irrelevant and has been improving with the 3G rollouts.
Umm, no its not. There are plenty of everyday applications which can be sensitive to latency especially once it goes past about 120ms.


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said by Maggs See Profile :

That's a total ripoff. Wireless data is useless with the insane latency.
Hmm, have you even used EV-DO or 3G? I game and use VoIP just fine on my Sprint EV-DO connection. Ping times as low as ~60ms to the first hop and ~80-90ms to google. Thats not bad at all, and not far behind DSL that is not useing FAST PATH. And on top of that, download speeds of ~2.5Mbps most of the day.


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said by powerspec88 See Profile :

And on top of that, download speeds of ~2.5Mbps most of the day.
BBR's speedtest database shows good transfer speeds. The 3G EVDO numbers would be clustered at the top:

Verizon Wireless:
»/archive/myvzw···cid=&p=1
Sprint Wireless:
»/archive?cid=265

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nnaarrnn

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reply to AVonGauss
my sprint EVDO rev A card is the only way I can game at home. It's latency is less than my Cable most of the time.


battleop

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Name "Plenty" of applications.

k1ll3rdr4g0n

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said by powerspec88 See Profile :

said by Maggs See Profile :

That's a total ripoff. Wireless data is useless with the insane latency.
Hmm, have you even used EV-DO or 3G? I game and use VoIP just fine on my Sprint EV-DO connection. Ping times as low as ~60ms to the first hop and ~80-90ms to google. Thats not bad at all, and not far behind DSL that is not useing FAST PATH. And on top of that, download speeds of ~2.5Mbps most of the day.
But can't you only use 5GB of bandwidth before you start to get hit with insane overcharges?

voipdabbler

join:2006-04-27
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LOL, so typical of bloggers.

You've got a "pundit/blogger" who's predicted tremendous wireless broadband growth turning to a "study" by another "pundit" that's set himself up a company that confirms the first "pundit/blogger's" prediction of growth despite a worldwide recession that may last for half a decade. Funny, well-established technology research groups and think tanks, such as Gartner Group, aren't sharing this vision of "growth."


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said by voipdabbler See Profile :

You've got a "pundit/blogger" who's predicted tremendous wireless broadband growth turning to a "study" by another "pundit" that's set himself up a company that confirms the first "pundit/blogger's" prediction of growth despite a worldwide recession that may last for half a decade. Funny, well-established technology research groups and think tanks, such as Gartner Group, aren't sharing this vision of "growth."
2015 is 7 years away and it isn't out of line to expect avg monthly wireless data to expand greatly by then.

Can you link to the equivalent Gartner study you mention that estimates wireless data monthly usage in 2015 or thereabouts?
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7 years

Hmm.. I remember back in 2000 that bush had a so called universal broadband plan that would take 7 years.. Whatever.. Anytime a project is projected that far, I consider it a wasted comment... I prefer results over charts/so called expert predictions...

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 Mobile Broadband cost is to high and CAPS are Crap.

Let's see now. I manage a power company and find that my company will have to spend big bucks to add power plants if customer usage keeps increasing. My stock holders are whining about the cost to keep up with demand. I have the perfect solution, I will charge customers $1.00 per Kilowatt Hour for consumption above 1,000 Kilowatt Hours. See problem solved.

Broadband Service has become too critical for it's pricing not to be regulated. If the Broadband ISP's cannot provide high speed broadband to all homes at reasonable prices without CAPS, then the government must step up and wire America, either directly or through subsidized Broadband Cooperatives.

pkust

join:2001-08-09
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The only thing "recession resistant".....

....is the market for BS. In good times and bad, it seems to be a popular product.

People can and will alter all manner of buying habits during an economic downturn--and for some that will mean postponing purchases of new wireless products.

Will the wireless data market melt down the way other markets have? Probably not, but to expect zero recessionary impact is foolish.
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Maggs
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Re: $40 a month for 455MB

5GB is too low, that's 166.67MB a day for a 30 day month. $40 plus 21% tax for wireless service brings the MRC to $48.40 a month approx.
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powerspec88
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I go over 5GB monthly. I normaly use 40-50GB of data every month and Sprint has yet to say anything to me.


Millenniumle

join:2007-11-11
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Ingenious indeed

Karl wrote:

"as well as find ingenious new ways to cap and throttle"

Indeed. Just look at Cricket's new unlimited wireless broadband. An exercise in contradiction in "terms" it is. Here is their plan details, which itself has contradicting terms:

»www.mycricket.com/cricketplans/d···roadband

At the top it reads: "Simply purchase a Cricket Broadband modem and for only $40 per month, you get all the blogs, videos and music downloads you want."

Nice you might say. But read on. Near the bottom you'll find a little quid pro quo: "Throughput may be limited if use exceeds 5GB per month."

It gets better, quite ironic really, if you bother to follow the link to their acceptable use policy:

»www.mycricket.com/broadband/acceptableuse/

It reads: "Cricket Broadband service may ONLY be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service automation)."

Well so much for getting "all the blogs, videos and music downloads you want." Because if you do, and even though they told you specifically that you can, and you go over your 5GB cap, you'll be "presumed to be using the service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to limit throughput or immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice."

Well, ingenious? I guess not. They'll not only just flat out lie in your face, they'll do it in writing too. I guess it be proof positive that if you only get fined millions, but will earn billions, a misleading you will be. Merry Christmas!

beaups

join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
reply to Mr Matt
Re: Mobile Broadband cost is to high and CAPS are Crap.

great attempt...but you failed your analogy. power IS charged PER KW hour...anyone here getting unlimited electricity for $40 per month?


The Monkey
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Never heard this before...

This is quaint. The article reminds me of Enron, WorldCom, and Global Crossing all rolled into a big fun company!
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Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
reply to beaups
Re: Mobile Broadband cost is to high and CAPS are Crap.

His analogy may fail, but his point is still valid.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
reply to Millenniumle
Re: Ingenious indeed

Class action time
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