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Comments on news posted 2008-11-19 09:36:03: The FCC recently began investigating the TV pricing of several large cable operators and Verizon (but not AT&T), though we've discussed how the inquiry might be a little hollow, and ignores the FCC's own failed policies. ..

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devnuller

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Martin's policies

Pro-consumer is good. Anti-business is bad. Anti-specific business is unethical.


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Martin trying to shine before getting the boot by Obama?

That's what it sure looks like anyway. Is he trying to look good before he gets kicked out in a few months? His previous record should speak for itself, loud and clear.

I'm not really understanding why he waited until now to try this?
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Comcast has a nasty history of not providing full-disclosure until forced. Their responses seem to indicate they think we should take whatever they say at face value and let that be that. How dare we question the almighty Comcast?

Please ...


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Re: Moving channels to digital...

In regards to cable cos. moving channels to digital, Cox has the city of Fort Smith and many others in a tizzy this week when they announced that they plan to move all religious programming to digital cable.

They claim they will be able to offer even more religious programming once the change is complete, but that forces you to cough up another approx $10 a month for a digital cable box if you still want to receive religious programming...

»www.kfsm.com/Global/story.asp?S=···nav=2uEH


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 Regulator demands for info increases costs

The scope of the FCC's investigation was broad, seeking data going back to 2006. "After reviewing their request for information, we determined that it would have taken over 1,500 man hours just to compile the information for 2008."

"We stand ready to work with them and to see how best to proceed from this point. The amount of information was so substantial and the amount of time very short," the Comcast spokeswoman said.
And people wonder why businesses, both large & small, hate regulatory agencies. It is the cost of providing huge amounts of info to feed the bureaucrats constant demands for data and then waiting interminably for OKs to do anything. This isn't just the FCC, but the dozens of agencies that a business has to satisfy to do anything.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

The scope of the FCC's investigation was broad, seeking data going back to 2006. "After reviewing their request for information, we determined that it would have taken over 1,500 man hours just to compile the information for 2008."

"We stand ready to work with them and to see how best to proceed from this point. The amount of information was so substantial and the amount of time very short," the Comcast spokeswoman said.
And people wonder why businesses, both large & small, hate regulatory agencies. It is the cost of providing huge amounts of info to feed the bureaucrats constant demands for data and then waiting interminably for OKs to do anything. This isn't just the FCC, but the dozens of agencies that a business has to satisfy to do anything.
I use to agree to that. The Sarbanes Oxley Act, for example, requires a lot of money and a lot of man hours for a small broker firm in order to stay compliant.

But then again, look at Enron, Worldcom, Adelphia, and all the recent companies who had little or no regulation.

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Disagree. Plenty of regulation. The problem was their Chief Officers broke the law and all ended in jail or in the grave. These companies failing had very little to do with not enough regulations.


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But then again, look at Enron, Worldcom, Adelphia, and all the recent companies who had little or no regulation.
The executives who broke the law were punished under existing law. There was no need for Sarbanes-Oxley.
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Correct. Enron and the rest found loopholes in the existing mountains of regulations and used them to gain illicit profits. More regulation = more loopholes.

Case in point -- why weren't the CEOs of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac marched into a courthouse in front of the cameras, under arrest for being dishonest about the health of their companies? Isn't that what SOx was supposed to prevent? Billions were lost (except by the execs) yet there's been no public outrage, no death threats like Enron executives received, and no one had their character smeared in the press.

Strange....

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The Greedy Old Pig Administration is being terminated.

The Tush administration has operated in the KCA (Kiss Corporate Ass) mode for 8 Years. It looks like the new administration will provide some balance on behalf of ordinary citizens. If that is the case, that will stick a finger in the eye of the corporate parasites!


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reply to Rob
Re: Regulator demands for info increases costs

said by Rob See Profile :

But then again, look at Enron, Worldcom, Adelphia, and all the recent companies who had little or no regulation.
Sarbanes Oxley is a response to those events, and reflects the typical government response to an issue:

Too much, too late, and in the wrong place.

You have to wonder what the FCC would even do with that data, other than mark the check box that they've received it.


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Re: Moving channels to digital...

welcome to the dish work buddy. if you gave dish or direct tv you have to pay a 5 dollar programing accress fee.


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Re: Regulator demands for info increases costs

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

The scope of the FCC's investigation was broad, seeking data going back to 2006. "After reviewing their request for information, we determined that it would have taken over 1,500 man hours just to compile the information for 2008."

"We stand ready to work with them and to see how best to proceed from this point. The amount of information was so substantial and the amount of time very short," the Comcast spokeswoman said.
And people wonder why businesses, both large & small, hate regulatory agencies. It is the cost of providing huge amounts of info to feed the bureaucrats constant demands for data and then waiting interminably for OKs to do anything. This isn't just the FCC, but the dozens of agencies that a business has to satisfy to do anything.
So? It's called the cost of doing business. All the other companies were able to provide the requested information. Perhaps Comcast should look into WHY it would take 1500 man-hours to provide very basic information about their network and offerings?

Aside from that, saying "We can't provide that information at this time." is answering the question directly, Martin says they didn't even do that.

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"They didn't even answer the questions directly. They had a narrative but they didn't even answer the specifics of the questions directly," Martin said, referring to Comcast.
I'm sure you understand what providing a narrative to a request for information is. It's kind of like your wife telling you how she feels when all you asked was what restaurant she wanted to go to for dinner.

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Re: The Greedy Old Pig Administration is being terminated.

Which of Obama's cabinet appointments or transition team members would you point to as evidence of "change in Washington"? The same ilk as always, just from the other side of the aisle, and that doesn't make it better or even different.

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Re: Regulator demands for info increases costs

said by Matt See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

The scope of the FCC's investigation was broad, seeking data going back to 2006. "After reviewing their request for information, we determined that it would have taken over 1,500 man hours just to compile the information for 2008."

"We stand ready to work with them and to see how best to proceed from this point. The amount of information was so substantial and the amount of time very short," the Comcast spokeswoman said.
And people wonder why businesses, both large & small, hate regulatory agencies. It is the cost of providing huge amounts of info to feed the bureaucrats constant demands for data and then waiting interminably for OKs to do anything. This isn't just the FCC, but the dozens of agencies that a business has to satisfy to do anything.
So? It's called the cost of doing business. All the other companies were able to provide the requested information. Perhaps Comcast should look into WHY it would take 1500 man-hours to provide very basic information about their network and offerings?

Aside from that, saying "We can't provide that information at this time." is answering the question directly, Martin says they didn't even do that.

said by Article :
"They didn't even answer the questions directly. They had a narrative but they didn't even answer the specifics of the questions directly," Martin said, referring to Comcast.
I'm sure you understand what providing a narrative to a request for information is. It's kind of like your wife telling you how she feels when all you asked was what restaurant she wanted to go to for dinner.
Ya it really ticks me off when someone does that to me
If I ask something I want that info

its like asking how much is that (whatever) and hearing how it was built and who built it and how many were sold yesterday and who buys it but not the price

(the whole truth, the full truth, and NOTHING BUT the truth)
now substitute truth for answer

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Martin Exits Laughing

Not sure how Karl missed this:
said by Broadcasting & Cable :
FCC Chairman Kevin Martin took shots at Comcast in particular, cable lawyers in general, and a host of other targets in a short but well-received stand-up routine in at his final Federal Communications Bar Association dinner as chairman Tuesday night in Washington, an annual roast of the FC's top regulator.

Actually, Martin was angling for some more time in the big chair, joking that though it was a historic year and people had voted for change, the "fundamental change' he was advocating in Washington was a change in the rule that the chairman has to come from the party of the winning presidential candidate.

He suggested going to the same law school with the new president and playing basketball together--both of which Martin has done with Barack Obama--should be the new metric. 'Unfortunately," he added, "Julius Genachowski also qualifies," a reference to the former General counsel to then FCC Chairman Reed Hundt and an Obama adviser who is considered a top candidate to succeed Martin.

Joking about the toll the economy has taken on the FCBA, Martin said there were empty seats in the house, then added: "Comcast can't even afford to hire seat-warmers to not laugh at my jokes." That was a reference to the stories that Comcast had hired people to fill seats at an FCC field hearing, as well as to the often-contentious relationship between the operator and the FCC chairman.

But Martin said he had done his part for economic growth by drafting a plan that would shift around billions of dollars in the Universal Service Fund and thus provide work for every telecom lobbyist in town. "It had no chance of passing," he said, "but that was not the point."

Martin pointed out that the recent 700 mhz spectrum auction had raised almost $20 billion for the treasury. "That doesn't sound like much" in the face of trillion-dollar deficits, he said he took comfort in knowing he had paid for "not one, not two, but three AIG executive retreats."

Martin pulled out a bottle of Jack Daniels, took a swig, and said there was nothing like it to take the edge off when "Commissioner Adelelstein goes off on one of his sermons" about product placement. He followed that with a slide of the wrecked and burning DTV transition race car, then a slide of the FCC logo sponsored by GEICO.

Martin took a page from Steven Colbert's nightly "Word' riff, flashing a graphic of Martin's picture with the night's word: "Legacy," and following that up with: "Hold for 5 minute ovation from cable lawyers."

There were a few sympathetic "awwws" from the audience when Martin talked about what he had done in the last four years that was important and nothing appeared on the screen.

With Martin pondering how his legacy would be recorded, the screen flashed: "Depends on who writes it, someone commissioned by AT&T or Comcast."

Following a Martin tradition of top 10 lists, the chairman ticked off his top career plans upon leaving the FCC. They included: Working at the NTIA mailroom sending out DTV coupons, working as a contractor hooking up converter boxes, become a wardrobe consulant to Janet Jackson, becoming an FCC-sponsored NASCAR driver (the FCC-sponsored DTV transition race car crashed two out of three races), play Harry POtter on Broadway, and run for mayor of Wilmington.

And number one: "I have no plans to leave the FCC."

Joining Martin at the head table were the other commissioners, as well as former chairmen Bill Kennard, Michael Powell, Dick Wiley, and Al Sikes.

Martin's warmup act at the dinner was reprising his role as Martin's "roaster emeritus": Eddie Fritts, former National Association of Broadcasters president who now runs consulting company, The Fritts Group.

Among his top zingers (which are just about all of them, actually), were the following:

"We were trying to come up with an entrée tonight in Kevin’s honor and the cable guys suggested we serve Champagne and Lame Duck."

"Tonight is a night for great food, lots of billable hours, and plenty of liquor flowing. It’s like lunchtime for the AIG Executive Committee."

"You know, when Kevin Martin first came to the FCC, people used to joke about how young he looked. But you can tell the stress is getting to him and he is showing his age. This week he has had to shave twice."

"When it comes to the FCC Kevin is a true Bush Republican. No exit strategy." (big laugh line among the assembled attorneys).

"What a crazy time it’s been in Washington recently. I can’t think of a tougher campaign in recent memory. Two extraordinary candidates for America’s most important job. Pulling out the all the stops and using surrogates for their negative campaigns. It was just sooo ugly. But enough about Commissioners Copps and Adelstein. (Both are in line to be acting chairman when Martin leaves.

"Let me take a minute and say that hopefully soon, there will be an end to the infighting and civil unrest between rival fundamentalist factions that have dominated the news for so long. But enough about Commissioners Tate and McDowell." (Martin has sometimes had a hard time coralling votes from the two commission Republicans).

"Speaking of Hillary Clinton, what about her possibly joining the Obama Cabinet? Secretary of State is really an intriguing idea. My understanding is that she gets the job if she can stop the fighting between Dingell and Waxman (John Dingell [D-MI] and Henry Waxman [D-CA] are in a heated battle for chairmanship of the House Energy & Commerce Committee, which oversees the FCC).

"And speaking of the Digital TV Transition.This just in. I’m sure you heard today in testimony on the hill, there’s been another federal rescue package proposal. Plans are underway to rescue the FCC’s NASCAR Ford."

"Heck, the FCC car crashed so many times it should have been the McCain Straight Talk Express."

"You know, there’s a real question as to how much the FCC can regulate programming."

"The FCC jurisdiction covers all 50 states, which caused Sarah Palin to say “there are 50 ?”

"However, Kevin’s goal is to have family friendly programming on cable that senior citizens and young impressionable
minds could watch. So something for both -- John McCain and Sarah Palin."

"During Kevin’s tenure as Chairman he introduced his very own stimulus package. Some would say his anti-cable initiatives fueled the Leave No Lawyer Behind Act."

"Not to fear however, even in this tough economy there are some good deals. I found $10 on the sidewalk today and used it to buy 200 shares of Sirius XM stock. And I got $3 change back."

"Everyone wants to know who will lead the FCC next year. By that I don’t mean which law firm."

"The big rumor today is that the Obama White House will include a cabinet level chief technology officer. In keeping with today’s business climate, they will actually outsource the job to India."

Posted by John Eggerton on November 18, 2008


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Re: Moving channels to digital...

said by jt4 :

welcome to the dish work buddy. if you gave dish or direct tv you have to pay a 5 dollar programing accress fee.
No, you don't get it. Comcast already charges people for "basic" cable. Now they switch channels to digital, move them up into another pay package, and tell consumers "Tough crap, if you want to see that channel ever again you need to cought up more $$$."

The Dish programming access fee is if you're NOT subscribed to any plan.
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said by jester121 See Profile :

Correct. Enron and the rest found loopholes in the existing mountains of regulations and used them to gain illicit profits.
They weren't loopholes. They just basically violated accounting standards and broke laws to make their company stock value increase. It wasn't a legel loophole, it was then and is now illegal.

Now, they did take advantage of lax oversight and regulation to make the frauds succeed.
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Re: Martin trying to shine before getting the boot by Obama?

Obama can only boot him as Chairman, Martin can stay on the FCC until his term expires in 2011.

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said by jester121 See Profile :

The same ilk as always, just from the other side of the aisle, and that doesn't make it better or even different.
How can you say that, the Obama administration will kiss some different corporate asses.
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