en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| Hmm.. they'll throttle me back to
6Mbps ? I could live with that.
The problem that I've noticed (been on Cable for a few days from DSL).
DSL = VERY stable. On a 3Mbps DSL line, I will hit max 99% of the time, and latency will not change
Cable = Faster (6Mbps/512kbps), however, speeds will vary, as will latency.
Skypeout actually ran better on 3Mbps DSL than 6Mbps cable.
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs:
·Charter Pipeline
·AT&T Southwest
|  too vague
the potential for regular users to be labeled 'high consumption users' is there and the internet community should be wary. imagine downloading an unbox movie, using your independent voip, and someone in the household surfing/streaming random video clips. would that qualify you as a high consumption user? does throttling back your connection during that one instance occur or does the system identify repeat offenders?
too many questions for me to support this. |
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wjames
join:2006-11-30
Atlanta, GA | before or after?
Are they throttling before the cap is reached? |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Looks like yes (just during periods of network congestion). If you go over the cap you pay extra money. Guess I need to watch my backup usage, though 250GB isn't horrible... |
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baineschile
2600
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | reply to en102
Re: Hmm.. they'll throttle me back to
Maybe when people stop downloading pirated movies and software at a staggering rate, ISPs wouldnt have to do it for everyone.
Thanks a lot, piraters, for making the experience rough for everyone |
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cybercrimes
join:2003-12-24
Phoenixville, PA | caps
i can see them loseing customers if the put on caps im with verizon fios with no caps. people with comcast will go elseware for internet with no caps if they can |
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daslog
join:2002-04-10
Milford, NH
| said by cybercrimes  :i can see them loseing customers if the put on caps im with verizon fios with no caps. people with comcast will go elseware for internet with no caps if they can Yep. The high cost customers that they lose money on. Win-Win for both Comcast and the Customer. |
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baineschile
2600
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | reply to cybercrimes
You would be incorrect. No normal residential person can come up with a 100% legal excuse to use more than 250 gigs/mo |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | FAP or Cap, why both?
If they're FAPping why the need to cap and vice versa? |
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aciddrink
join:2000-08-26
Kailua, HI | reply to baineschile
Re: Hmm.. they'll throttle me back to
What about those of us that stream netflix, download linux distros and/or movies from Itunes? We can easily consume as much or more bandwidth than a 'pirate' can, especially in a household. |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
Premium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
| reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :Maybe when people stop downloading pirated movies and software at a staggering rate, ISPs wouldnt have to do it for everyone. Thanks a lot, piraters, for making the experience rough for everyone perhaps cable ISPs need to upgrade their network.
Docsis 1 and 2, pffftt!. LOL
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| reply to en102
That's true (DSL vs cable) in my experience as well. But that may vary by market. I'm always get my cap, and latency is good as well as solid.
On the flip side, posts in the forum for my provider are relatively solid with markets experiencing overloaded areas, etc.
I think it really depends on your area. I've been very lucky so far.
As for Comcast's public relations ... do the words 'White House Press Office' have any meaning for you? 
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
·Cox HSI
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Cox VOIP
·ViaTalk
·RoadRunner Cable
·MegaPath
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Time Warner VOIP
4 edits | reply to baineschile
Re: caps
said by baineschile :You would be incorrect. No normal residential person can come up with a 100% legal excuse to use more than 250 gigs/mo Guess you've never heard of Carbonite or Slingbox. Between DirecTV VOD, VPN, buying games on EA Link and Steam (or more specially redownloading), AppleTV, Netflix and XBOX 360 rentals, and the biggest, Slingbox streams of MLB all Summer I've done over 250GB in a month on quite a few occasions. Thankfully Cox doesn't enforce their 40GB cap and Verizon FiOS apparently has no consumer network management. |
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baineschile
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI
·Comcast
·magicjack.com
 ·Verizon Wireless B..
| reply to morbo
Re: too vague
Downloading an unbox movie - 3gigs
VOiP 1 hour chat - 30Mb/hr (approx)
Surfing Clips - 250-500Mb an hour (1024x768 max)
So, if you download 2 movies a day (180 gigs/mo), chat on the phone 2 hours a day (about 4 gigs/mo) and surf for video clips 3 hours a day (about 40 gigs/mo), you are still using less than the cap 224gigs.
But cmon, who does all that? |
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morbo
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join:2002-01-22
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clubs:
·Charter Pipeline
·AT&T Southwest
| from the article, I don't see where it says 'throttling will occur once the 250gb cap has been met' or similar. so i take it as even normal users could be throttled (without hitting the cap) to make sure other users have access. etc. which is different than only throttling when cap has been reached. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ |  reply to en102
Extensive discussion of this in Comcast forum here at BBR
Some discussion on this here:
»[Speed] Comcast to throttle individual users; all protocols |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to Dogfather
Re: FAP or Cap, why both?
said by Dogfather :If they're FAPping why the need to cap and vice versa? $$$$ Just looking for a new way to increase revenue. |
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viperlmw
Premium
join:2005-01-25
·Qwest.net
| reply to baineschile
Re: caps
You must not peruse the 'Broadband Heavy' forum on this site. For example, this streams live web cams to your pc/mac in the form of a screensaver: »Windows/OS X Screensaver of Axis cameras around the world
It's not a lot, but seems to add 40-50GB monthly to my bandwidth usage. |
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Indymike
join:2004-12-06
Indianapolis, IN
·Covad Communications
| Throttling - why?
Has anyone seen any kind of "real" information that shows that Comcasts network is overloaded to the point that 'throttling' is required?
I'm starting to wonder if they are either refusing to upgrade their network to support the numbers of users they have added OR they are worried about people getting video from the internet instead of the cable video service.... |
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