Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY | Maybe
They're hoping their HSI service only has elderly and light users. It wouldn't be surprising if thats their plan from the beginning. |
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bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | Instead of hoarding band width
they should try to stretch usage as a learning experience to better understand how to economically enhance their ability to give the consumer what they desire(and how do they know what they want?) and to make a FAIR profit. |
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mjgould
join:2006-04-30
Bowling Green, OH
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Try it in a college town
I would like to see what happens if Time Warner tries to deploy caps in a college town. I know here in my town it is nothing to have 5 or 6 college students living in one house all using the same connection. My neighbors for example have 4 people in the house and it is not uncommon for all of them to be watching ABC or some other high quality TV online while downloading torrents among other things. It would be easy for them to download 40GB in a week or so. |
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
| I doubt that TW will keep
or institute caps that low.
Fios and even Uverse competition will see to that.
While I understand the rationale and need for caps of some sort, if they're really out to address the bandwidth hog issue they could go a lot higher than they are.
By comparison, Comcast's 250 gig caps are very generous. I think a number in between that and what TW is trying to do is a good starting point to make inclusive in ones service.
125 Gigs would seem appropriate for the price people pay and if someone wants more than that..let them pay more for it.
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The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic! |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
1 edit |  Definition of HD?
What is their definition of HD? That iTunes/Xbox 360 crap isn't even high quality 720p, with an average HD rental being between 3-6GB in total size.
One movie and you're done. Just wait until real HD streaming comes along or god forbid, 1080p content. |
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NeoandGeo
join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN | Screw the subject, I don't want to use one.
So with increasing threat of easier competition, they give their customers even lower morale. Marketing genius. |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Ouch
If they're going to offer a budget package, they're not likely to have success pricing it at $35. Maybe $20/mo for people that actually only do e-mail and web browsing would get some takers. |
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yuutomo
The Wonder Kitter
Premium
join:2001-08-27
Missoula, MT |  sound of drums..
they board members are trying to milk as much money they can and split before the collapse happens. |
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scoopy03
join:2003-05-06
00000
 ·Verizon FIOS
| i am glad i dont have to pay for caps like time warner
that is ridiculous i easy can view up to thousands on top of thousands of pictures with fios. sure i dont have time warner but it just stating this is purely ridiculous. and when i had only 768k dsl i was still going through 1gb a day without any kind of downloads. i am glad fios has yet to cap their service as long as you pay them they dont care.
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Monolith
join:2007-07-25
united state
| 'Make Your Internet Experience Better'
I doubt it will Make my Internet Experience Better...
I don’t consider myself a heavy internet user, or my family. We download from iTunes, surf the web, email, and security patches, download some games for the wii, and play some games with it. Also the kids play WoW and several other online games a fair amount; we average about 50 GB a month, this is for 4 computers. We don’t watch movies or use P2P software. If Time Warner does this for all areas I will be upgrading my DSL to faster speed and getting rid of Time Warner. Right now I use the DSL mostly for my VPN for work; I wonder how much more I would use if I use VPN over Cable, as I work from home about 2 days a week for 12 hours a day. |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
 ·Cox HSI
·Verizon FIOS
 ·Cox VOIP
·ViaTalk
·RoadRunner Cable
·MegaPath
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Time Warner VOIP
3 edits | Or at 5GB about 1/2 of an HD movie.
If all people did was browse and use email, they would stick to dial up for less than 1/6th the price.
This is just TWC abusing their market position to stop video competitors like Apple, Microsoft, Amazon and Netflix from taking their VOD PPV revenue.
How about instead of letting their marketing department set their speeds, they actually sell speeds their network can support?
But it's certainly not surprising for cable who has made their business on raising prices while cutting services. It's certainly no wonder that a company like Comcast has lower satisfaction ratings than the Internal Revenue Service. |
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kfsutops
Premium
join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
clubs:
| said by Dogfather  :If all people did was browse and use email, they would stick to dial up for less than 1/6th the price. This is just TWC abusing their market position to stop video competitors like Apple, Microsoft, Amazon and Netflix from taking their VOD PPV revenue. How about instead of letting their marketing department set their speeds, they actually sell speeds their network can support? But it's certainly not surprising for cable who has made their business on raising prices while cutting services. It's certainly no wonder that a company like Comcast has lower satisfaction ratings than the Internal Revenue Service. It is not really a test when it's the only product they are offering. If the store only sales cheesecake..and no body else is around to sell food..then you buy cheesecake.
And until this switch goes to existing customers we will not know the true impact of the type of billing is. But it may not matter because of the collusion that goes on between the cable companies on their pricing.
They are more like the airline industry..they really don't try to compete. They wait to see what other companies do and charge. Then they do they same thing. The cell phone market does the same thing. That is why everybody pays ridiculous prices for text messaging.
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Huh? The airlines are bankrupting themselves trying to compete with each other. Watching what the others do and responding is exactly what competition is. |
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kfsutops
Premium
join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
clubs:
| said by Dogfather :Huh? The airlines are bankrupting themselves trying to compete with each other. Watching what the others do and responding is exactly what competition is. It's not really competition when one company (airline as an example)charges $25 for the first bag and then all they other companies say "me too" and start charging the same fees. This is what is having in the broadband market because most markets have no competition.
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
·AT&T U-Verse
1 edit | Seems TW's Marketing division hired this guy
"Caps make your Internet experience better!" |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | That must be some good stuff....
....that Time Warner is drinking.
Funny how many companies say they love their customers (as long as they send in their money) but treat them like complete idiots. |
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mb
join:2000-07-23
Washington, NJ | Nothing New
Cable companies just can't over the thought of selling by the piece, whether that be the outlet, channel, or gigabyte. |
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JusticeDun
join:2004-10-15
Okeana, OH | reply to Rick
Re: I doubt that TW will keep
What is wrong with some of you people that you think caps are good idea? Why would you want to go backwards instead of forwards? |
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RR User
@rr.com
| Multi-User/computer Households?
This isn't going to go over very well with multi-user/multi-computer households.
20-40GB for standard/Turbo may be enough for *just* 1 person, but what happens when you have 4-10 user households, are we suppose to expect $100+ increases in our bill in overage charges just because TW wants to artificially inflate the price of a gigabyte?
I'm in a 4 user household, and together have a total of 10+ computers. Everyone has at least a desktop and a laptop. I even have P2P *blocked* at the head router, so there is no file sharing or torrents whatsoever under this roof. And, even with that, consuming 100GB or more per month is pretty regular for us. Our monthly TWC bill ($185-$200) is already more expensive than our Electric ($125), and our Natural Gas ($82), and our water/Sewer ($70-$80). It's more expensive than our Cell phone plan. The only thing our TWC bill is not more than, is our food bill and our Mortgage. And by going with the numbers of 20-40GB and $1 per gig over, we could soon expect our cable bill to top $300 a month? That's ridiculous!
We're using on average of 100-150GB a month between 4 people... I really don't consider that to be very high or even excessive in this day in age when there is so much available over the internet. It's nothing like the stories you hear of a person downloading 600GB-2TB of Data just for the hell of it.
I really will cancel all my services with TWC if this hits NC. It makes absolutely no sense to place such strict data caps on a broadband service when each year, year after year, the cost of a gigabyte continues to fall. Why else do you think sites like youtube exist. And why do you think a number of the major networks can now offer HD streaming of their content online? because, the price per gigabyte of transfer is so cheap now, they can make money streaming HD content on the web. They don't provide it out of the kindness of their hearts... The advertising more than pays the bandwidth bill, so its just a profit for everyone.
A gigabyte only costs a couple cents... Charging $1 a gigabyte is so backwards, that this is the reason why American broadband will *never* match that of any country that leads us significantly in broadband. It will *never* happen when you have such greedy companies that control nearly all broadband access in the US. We pay more money, for an inferior product, and there is nothing we can do about it. Verizon is the only ISP that is 'half there' with the idea of delivering a superior next gen network. Even though they brag and boast that their network can easily handle 400Mbps or more, it's unlikely we will ever see that anytime soon. It will only take a few individuals maxing out their Fios lines 24/7 to make Verizon decide to also implement data caps to take care of bandwidth hogs... or being a greedy US company they are, watching TWC rape users for bandwidth usage, they may just join the game to increase profits as well.
Bottom line... It's all about money/profit *cough* rape *cough* |
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neufuse
join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
·Comcast
| caps...
5GB is just BS for a broadband connection.. sure it makes sense on cell phones... but on a cable connection where you can pull potentially 30MB a day just having the modem sit online taking ICMP and Routing packets... thats 900MB right there out of your 5GB cap... (I let my Comcast modem sit idle with just a router connected for 2 days and it pulled almost 55MB of just routing packets! ARP, ICMP, etc...) 250GB is a good cap that way you can still download your windows updates, watch some streaming videos, download some apps, download some demos on PSN or XBOX live... get a few Wii VC games.. I mean people DO use the internet for more then browsing... heck even just browsing in a a browser with 4 people in a family actively using the internet here we get about a gig a day of web usage... now days websites are complex with tons of images and multimedia... its not the day of 5K website pages anymore |
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