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Comments on news posted 2008-06-25 17:25:33: After I broke the news that both Time Warner Cable and Comcast were considering monthly caps and overage fees, I noticed that a refraining industry talking point justifying the move usually went something like this: "Well, despite being hailed as a F.. ..

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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
These are the kind of caps...

I'd expect on a normal U.S. / Canadian carrier.
930GB upstream cap is wild... that would be the equivalent of 3Mbps 24x7.
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Canada = Hollywood North


MrMoody
Carbon Based Lifeform

join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC
Outrageous

It's outrageous, I tell you! Why I'd only be able to upload 200 DVDs before being done for the month!
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state
It's only uploads...

Uploads aren't much of a big deal unless you're doing loads of HD video OR you're running torrents. Download, unlimited.


Dnepr

join:2001-11-28
Tarpon Springs, FL
Looks good to me

I wouldn't mind those kinds of caps.

Japanese solution actually seems reasonable!


swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
Premium
join:2003-06-13
NH
clubs:
no overage fees?

So what happens if someone uploads over that cap? Apparently there are no fees. Do they just lose their connection for the day?


Hehe

@ssa.gov
$42?

For $42 per month!!!! Where do I sign?

When will NTT come to the US?

kcblack
Premium
join:2000-09-11
Chicago, IL
reply to swhitney2003
Re: no overage fees?

In the true Japanese way they are officially yelled at in front of other customers and apologize profusely for letting it happen...

Kevin


VZ FiOS

@myvzw.com

Reasonable caps..if you call caps reasonable

Well those are about as generous as caps can get and I'm sure we'll never see caps this reasonable in the US.

Then again, we don't exactly have 100/100 FTTH connections available yet and we'll be lucky to even see that with FiOS anytime soon. Atleast Verizon doesn't cap FiOS for now, let's hope things stay that way and if we're lucky we'll see that 20 symmetrical make its way up to 100 symmetrical.


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
Even if ISPs in the US

had a 930 GB cap DL/UL combined there would still be those here that would complain that that is excessive and is violating thier "rights".

Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
i love to run torrents every few months, even when i try i cant imagine moving almost a Terabyte upstream.
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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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reply to BF69
a 930GB UL cap = 3Mbps upload 24x7.
3008kbps = 376kB/second = 0.3761875MB/second

60seconds/minute X 60 minutes/hour X 24 hours/day = 86400 seconds/day

86400 seconds/day X 0.3761875MB/second =
31725MB/day or 30.98GB/day

How many have 3Mbps or better upload capacity?
How many run it at the max 24x7 ?
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast

reply to Hehe
Re: $42?

said by Hehe :

For $42 per month!!!! Where do I sign?

When will NTT come to the US?
Never. Because existing companies in the U.S. will lobby your employer to not allow them in the U.S.


fireflier
Coffee. . .Need Coffee
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join:2001-05-25
Limbo
·Skype

reply to en102
Re: Even if ISPs in the US

TWC apparently feels that an upload of about 1/10 that 3Mbps is more than sufficient for the typical user.

Any activity that would find 384K insufficient couldn't possibly be legal.

I'd wager TWC execs would sh!t their pants at the mere suggestion of a cap at nearly 1 TB (upload only)
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ARGONAUT
got ping?

join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN
reply to Dnepr
Re: Looks good to me

Same here.


knightmb
Everybody Lies

join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
·AT&T DSL Service

reply to en102
Re: Even if ISPs in the US

said by en102 See Profile :

a 930GB UL cap = 3Mbps upload 24x7.
3008kbps = 376kB/second = 0.3761875MB/second

60seconds/minute X 60 minutes/hour X 24 hours/day = 86400 seconds/day

86400 seconds/day X 0.3761875MB/second =
31725MB/day or 30.98GB/day

How many have 3Mbps or better upload capacity?
How many run it at the max 24x7 ?
I do, but good point, it doesn't run at max capacity 24/7 It's maybe 30% capacity at peak times.
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insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

Isn't bandwidth cheaper in the US?

We made the internet, we have a huge infrastructure here. Lots of worldwide traffic crosses our country. How can a US company cry that they need a 30gb a month cap to make money, while in japan they can offer 100mbit symmetrical lines and only need to set a 930gb per month upload cap? Our government is such a failure to allow this mass ripping off of Americans to continue.

EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
From what I hear, the thing about all these high speed Japanese internet services is that the speed falls down hugely if you try to go to a website based outside of Japan, thanks to very limited bandwidth capacity on the undersea cables.

EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

reply to Hehe
Re: $42?

Hm, wasn't the modern NTT basically born out of the American Telephone and Telegraph Company's activities in Japan? (Much like NEC, Nippon Electric, was the Japanese arm of Western Electric) Maybe if we had "the old" AT&T back...

Though I've heard that these prices don't actually include internet and you have to pay an ISP separately, but that was from the US cable industry's website (linked elsewhere here).


Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state
·Dish Network
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reply to fireflier
Re: Even if ISPs in the US

There are loads of possible reasons. In my case, I'm uploading lots of 1080p HD videos I've recorded of my video games in FRAPs. These files are totaling around 700MB big, one almost reached a gigabyte and I'm stuck uploading these at 128kbps. 386k would be nice to have on slower Verizon DSL, BUT it'll still take a long time to pull off all of those megabytes.

And yes, I upload frequently.


Pizz
Hi

join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
reply to EPS
Re: Isn't bandwidth cheaper in the US?

you're right on that. If you stay within Japan and parts of Asia, you will see very high speeds. But as soon as you try and get into certain parts of europe and middle east, to USA - the speed starts going more and more downhill.
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