odog
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join:2001-08-05
Norcross, GA
clubs:
1 edit | They make bigger ones
When I lived in CT they had just finished installing larger ones every ~3000 feet on Boston Post RD. Next time I'm back up there I'll get photos. |
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ExecPro
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join:2002-06-07
Long Beach, NY
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| Verizon
The ones that verizon has been installing around here on the poles are much better. They mount them high up, and they are only around 3 feet wide by 4 feet tall, much smaller than what I have seen in these pics. Don't understand why these need to be so big!
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FicmanS
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join:2005-01-11
Brownsburg, IN
clubs: | Yeah much better....
Can't wait to read the headline when somebody plows into one of those poles and one of those units comes through a windshield...
I'm a little shocked frankly... |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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|  If pole mounted Vrads aren't on property, does customer have
...... a say?
I understood that AT&T in CT. had to get permission for BUILDING these on customers property. But if they are mounted on an existing telephone pole, does the CT. PUC ruling even apply. And can AT&T avoid getting residents permission?
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nunya
SEE ROCK CITY 475 MILES
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join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
clubs: | reply to FicmanS
Re: Yeah much better....
My thoughts exactly. No new equipment or facilities are supposed to be placed on a pole less than 18" (national minimum) from a roadway. The pole pictured is in violation.
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
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Re: If pole mounted Vrads aren't on property, does customer have
My guess would be that they don't have to get permission to add it to a pole, which is why they're doing it in part.
Course they mount it just a few feet abovee the ground, so it's technically "on the pole" but just as unsightly.
But as we've seen before, the commentary is "if you want the service you deal with the box" and that's that.
Would like to see them try that here though, private community, no poles, all buried, and the boxes are concealed by hedge or some such thing. Won't be any of this drop it in the front easement on the other side of the sidewalk stuff.
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ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN | Do they offer free service or at least some financial compensation? If they offered me free service of their highest tiers then we could talk. |
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grydlok
join:2004-01-06
Richmond, VA | Almost the entire sidewalk
Those things are huge.
That thing make the Verizon box on the pole behind my house look like a toaster. |
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flashcore
join:2007-01-23
Lutherville Timonium, MD
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Re: Verizon
The reason ATT's units are so much larger is because of how they chose to upgrade there plant, it takes a lot of space to house all those DSLAMS as well as having to power it. Verizon on the other hand just needs a place to splice the fiber into there network, there is no power equipment involved beyond what is installed at the central office and at the end of the fiber in each home. |
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
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Re: Yeah much better....
said by nunya  :My thoughts exactly. No new equipment or facilities are supposed to be placed on a pole less than 18" (national minimum) from a roadway. The pole pictured is in violation. Where did you get this info from? |
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
| Don't see the problem....
Really don't see what the problem here is.
The whole ugly etc. argument can be > /dev/null
Do you want high speed internet or not?
No, you want beautiful poles, fine V.90 dial up for you!
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JohnA
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join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA
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Re: Verizon
The Verizon boxes (HUBs) are non-powered splitters. They are the splice point where the trunk fiber from the CO is split and fed to segments of the neighborhood as a single fiber per unit. Since all the boxes contain are the splits and no power they are much smaller. All the splicing occurs on the overhead segments of cables built into the boxes. |
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Goober
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
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Re: Don't see the problem....
said by rec9140 :Really don't see what the problem here is. The whole ugly etc. argument can be > /dev/null Do you want high speed internet or not? No, you want beautiful poles, fine V.90 dial up for you! That works fine if you're not a homeowner living in a nice neighborhood. |
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weaseled386
join:2008-04-13
Port Orange, FL
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·Bright House
1 edit | That's a standard 52B / ALP-248 cabinet...
If you don't know what it takes to get the service from AT&T, shut up and take your "This is ugly" comments to the RANTS forum. The simple fact is AT&T pushes a hand full of fibers from the CO to the RT. It is then split copper from there. Comparing the way Verizon does it to AT&T is apples to oranges. Are either wrong? No.
Can AT&T bury their structures? Yes, CEV's have one small hatch that's visible to the outside world. However, then you have to dig a 20' x 20' hole, bury the CEV, and the cost of the job jumps 10 fold from the original ~$80k cost. Would you rather see the smalller cabinets all over, or would you rather see huge holes all over? Would you rather pay ~$50 for service, or $200 for service? There is a reason most of you don't do jobs like this: because its easier for you to sit behind a computer screen and bitch... without ever offering a solution.
EDIT: Typo, and even the green or brown hatches of a CEV are almost identical in size to a 52b or ALP-248 cabinet. |
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radougherty
join:1999-07-23
Austin, TX | reply to Goober
Re: Don't see the problem....
Sure glad that our development is far enough out of Austin that it will be years before AT&T decideds to update us and hopefully by then they'll see the errors of their ways and go to FTTH vs. the FTTN garbage. |
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XBL2009
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Chicago, IL | reply to rec9140
The main problem being that if they went the fiber route they wouldn't need the massive vrad units in ATT areas. The fiber would need a simple splitter and then be fed to every home. |
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weaseled386
join:2008-04-13
Port Orange, FL
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·Bright House
| This is true, but your thinking is still flawed. The cost to the subscriber would go WAY up because that would require a massive overhaul of each and every Central Office AT&T owns.
These units are not just placed where ever AT&T feels like it. 99% of the deployment of Project Light Speed is handled by Marketing. Someone goes on the website and requests it, someone calls in to see if it's available, etc. |
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
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join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
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Re: If pole mounted Vrads aren't on property, does customer have
I'd like to see 'T' put a fugly VRAD on Mona's front lawn! 
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spg
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join:2001-10-31
NOT Texas!
| reply to weaseled386
Re: That's a standard 52B / ALP-248 cabinet...
There you go using facts to support your argument. Don't you know that's not allowed here?
Facts are that we live in a civilization that requires infrastructure. Whether it be a power transformer, or a VRAD or whatever the CATV is using, these things are going to crop up in somebody's yard at some point. Some neighborhoods have utilities that are underground and some are aerial. If people aren't complaining because some utility worker wants in their back yard to climb a pole they're complaining about them opening manholes. Geeesh!
People complain about cell towers, air raid/storm sirens, etc. I guess we could use smoke signals, but someone would complain about the pollution. |
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | reply to weaseled386
Re: Don't see the problem....
The cost to Verizon's subs isn't going up as a result in fiber deployment. |
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