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Comments on news posted 2008-06-02 09:06:48: Bell Canada's head of regulatory affairs (aka lobbyist and spin doctor) Mirko Bibic tells the CBC the recent protests against large internet service providers have been fueled by "misinformation from people who don't run networks. ..

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derekm

join:2008-02-26
I don't know why I bother....

I can't even read this guys stuff without getting infuriated.

How is it that he can spread such lies and deceit, and still look at himself in the mirror?

Every time I read something in the press from him, I feel sick.


karlmarx

join:2006-09-18
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But it's a series of tubes

It's not like a highway. Sheesh, doesn't anyone ever listen to the wisdom of our republican senators? The internet is a series of TUBES. And sometimes, when you try and send an 'internet', it make take DAYS to get to it's destinations, because the tubes are all backed up. Of course, if you try and send a dump truck down the tube, the tube will get backed up. The solution, of course, is to ban all cars from the tubes, then that interweb thing will work faster for everyone. The internet? Is that thing still around anyway?

If you have a 2 lane highway that's congested, you upgrade it to a 4 lane highway. No matter HOW MUCH you upgrade, sometimes, it will be crowded, sometimes it won't. Of course if you're a right wing nut case republican, you would support the PRIVATE (read: paid) addition of additional lanes for the highway, that only those willing to pay more could take. Doesn't matter if the regular internet gets congested, because if you pay more, you can take the 'high speed' lane.

So, to put in in american analogy, all the RICH people will drive on the 'fast' highway, while all the regular people will be stuck in the 'slow lane'. Doesn't matter that the highway was paid for by EQUAL DISTRIBUTION (read: rich and poor), it only matter that the rich people get special treatment. The nerve of those working class slobs, thinking they should get what THEIR MONEY paid for.

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Re: I don't know why I bother....

said by derekm See Profile :

I can't even read this guys stuff without getting infuriated.

How is it that he can spread such lies and deceit, and still look at himself in the mirror?

Every time I read something in the press from him, I feel sick.
Are you referring to Bibic or Karl?
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blackzero
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join:2007-08-16
Trois-Rivieres, QC

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Oups!

So according to Bibic's view, is better to treat their customers as a garbage instead to upgrade their networks.

So Bell Canada I gonna tell you something especially this goes to Bibic
Fuck You!


amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
Maybe you guys need metered billing. I wouldn't want to pay for those extra rush-hour lanes just because you need it.

Mark

NetKrazy

join:2007-11-29
Littleton, CO

reply to karlmarx
Re: But it's a series of tubes

Again though the argument of getting what you pay for comes into play. I do agree a wholesaler shouldn't hinder traffic of it's customers but then.... what makes them different than an ISP. One could though lay down the example of when PSI (I believe) began running their commercial customers through a transparent web-cache which ultimately began the decline of that "feature".

I find it amusing though the difference between rich and poor you mention, the case of the rich getting more of what they pay for than the poor. The rich pay for T1's at anywhere from $300 - $600 per circuit at 1.5mbps. A 'poor' person pays 50 dollars a month for 5mbps. Which one of these is getting what they pay for?


oxymoron69

join:2004-11-10
Belleville, ON
just plain awesome

Hi I'm Mirko Bibic and with the powers of my shit-eating grin, I WILL STEAL YOUR SOUL!

Bow down to your business executive overlords!

backness

join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2

Congratulations Bell

On being the most hated company in all of Canada!

Every day I find more people to sign up to resellers.

Based on the aggressive marketing campaign that bell has on right now I would say they are losing customers in a major way.

Mr. Bibic, to use an analogy you can understand, If you have been on the 401 recently between say montreal and Windsor you might notice that most of the way in the congested areas, we have increased the width of the road to 3 lanes. Where previously, we could have 2 lanes, INCREASES in traffic volume have necessitated BUILDING more lanes.

To date I haven't seen the police arbitrarily removing groups of vehicles that all fall under one type of traffic to produce a positive effect of traffic flows.

Bibic and bell you are a bunch of douche bags!


knightmb
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reply to NetKrazy
Re: But it's a series of tubes

said by NetKrazy See Profile :

I find it amusing though the difference between rich and poor you mention, the case of the rich getting more of what they pay for than the poor. The rich pay for T1's at anywhere from $300 - $600 per circuit at 1.5mbps. A 'poor' person pays 50 dollars a month for 5mbps. Which one of these is getting what they pay for?
Bad example, a T1 is nothing more than a DSL modem hidden in a metal box. The only reason companies pay $199 to $600 for one is the illusion presented that it won't ever go down. What you are really paying for is just more responsive tech support. I've dealt with enough "T1" installs in which I and the phone company have a good chuckle when they hook up the DSL modem, assign it a static IP, and bill the customer out the ying yang for service.

T1 is just a buzz word now, it's no longer 24 channels of 64 kbs like it use to be back when it really took 24 channels to get that speed. The phone companies and the like jumped to DSL last century, but who would pay for it when everyone else could DSL for cheaper and at the same or higher speed.

Don't believe me, open up the box for your T1 service. Did it you get it before 1998? It might be the real deal. But you are pretty much going to get a DSL modem in disguise now a days.

At least from AT&T (Bellsouth then) you will, but at least Covad admits it's just a DSL modem

When you jump into phone lines, it's a different story, but the same confusing terms to further confuse customers. You can have a T1 that gives you 24 phone lines, that's for real. But it's a completely different (and even more confusing for customers) setup. I don't know how many countless companies I've helped ditch their "T1" Internet for DSL from a competitor that offered the same speed or faster service for nearly 1/6 of the price.
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33591094

join:2002-11-19
Canada
Ha!

He's got that same greasy, sleazy look that Ryan on The Offce had in season 4.

Here's hoping this lying bastard is hauled off in cuffs, too...


Matt
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 New Video Service

I really hope the CRTC looks at this move for what it is, nothing more than an attempt to kill off competing ISPs and stifle competing video services.

Kdee

join:2005-08-26
Etobicoke, ON
Does this guy....

.... have a Facebook page with embarrassing quotes in it? If so, we need to find it fast!


qwdfgfds

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Bell video service, the content that we will be distributing

Bell video service, the content that we will be distributing, is using peer to peer.

Comes from Bell= Peer
then goes to me = Peer

=Peer to Peer


amigo_boy

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reply to backness
Re: Congratulations Bell

said by backness See Profile :

If you have been on the 401 recently between say montreal and Windsor you might notice that most of the way in the congested areas, we have increased the width of the road to 3 lanes.
Who should pay for that? The people in Moose Jaw?

Mark


Doctor Four
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Is Baghdad Bob Bibic's boss?

Because he sure sounds like the former Iraqi Information
Minister.


andyb
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join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
reply to amigo_boy
Re: Congratulations Bell

Bell doesn't service Moose Jaw.Bell should pay for it.It's part of owning a company.Reinvestment.Don't reinvest watch your company go down the toilet as it gets left behind.

koreyb

join:2005-01-08
Etobicoke, ON
reply to amigo_boy
Re: Oups!

Scary enough, if you are with bell or rogers, it's already set that way, on top of throttling.

backness

join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2

reply to amigo_boy
Re: Congratulations Bell

Shows how little you know about Canada,

We have equalization payments. Ontario, for the better part of the century, has contributed support to almost all the other provinces financially.

And this debate is not about who pays and who doesn't. Its about blocking certain types of traffic.

To use a proper analogy, its like saying if we could just remove all the Chinese from the highway our problems would be solved.

toro

join:2006-01-27
Scarborough, ON
reply to knightmb
Re: But it's a series of tubes

Actually the company I work for has a T1 installed 2 years ago in Ontario and it's the real deal, not DSL. And the latency to the first hop is much lower (4 ms) than DSL (usually 10 ms in the same area)
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