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Comments on news posted 2008-05-22 16:19:50: So for conversation's sake, say you're a telephone monopoly currently under fire from all sides by regulators, consumer advocates and competitors for your effort to throttle competing ISP P2P traffic. ..

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en102
Canadian, eh?

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Not surprising though... this is more like a wireless co.

Bell is throttling so that they have more bandwidth available for their video service...and so that competing video service may be out of luck. Bell's DSL landline sounds more like a wireless company's stand. You can consume all you want, as long as we have an ownership/profit arrangement in that company.
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Figures

I will not stop my quest for getting as many people as possible off of rogers, cogeco and bell and switched to dsl resellers, well atleast until bell is turned into
New name Phone company
New name satillite company
New name dsl company
New name online video rental serive

No bundling allowed, no connection between the 3 old parts.
No connection to the online video rental service.

Yup, bell you really suck. Crooks, give me my p2p back.


tertech

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Bell Logo

After reading that article, I've finally figured out what Bell's logo represents.... My head is spinning.


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Jack Kapica article

Jack Kapica from the globe has a nice article on this also.

»www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/···cyberia/


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 Love it!

said by Karl :
Interested in yet another expensive, Windows only, DRM-encrusted half-assed attempt at making a buck?
Why yes thanks, I'll take two!


ShadPTR

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G-ddamn Greedy Lieing bast-rds

I hope the CRTC does not let them get away with this. Congestion my ass.


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 Providing a new service - hang the SOBs

Hey they are bringing out a new service. So let's get out the tar & feathers and run them out of town on a rail. {/sarcasm}

Bell Video Store Q&A
»www.bellvideostore.ca/Help.htm
Funny, I missed the part that FORCED people to use the store. My bad!

pablo2525

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Too bad the deadpool response was yanked ....

... it seems `someone' posted about the Bell mole named `deadpool' ... that post was yanked from this thread.

Too bad.

I'm glad I read it before it was snuffed.
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tertech

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Re: Providing a new service - hang the SOBs

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Hey they are bringing out a new service. So let's get out the tar & feathers and run them out of town on a rail. {/sarcasm}

Bell Video Store Q&A
»www.bellvideostore.ca/Help.htm
Funny, I missed the part that FORCED people to use the store. My bad!
So if Canada decided to renege on NAFTA and told the U.S. it could not supply the 1.8m bbl/day of oil because of Canadian needs, and then turned around and announced a deal with China to supply 2m bbl/day, you would be OK with that?


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said by tertech See Profile :

So if Canada decided to renege on NAFTA and told the U.S. it could not supply the 1.8m bbl/day of oil because of Canadian needs, and then turned around and announced a deal with China to supply 2m bbl/day, you would be OK with that?
»www.thefreedictionary.com/non%20sequitur
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pablo2525

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reply to TKJunkMail
You're missing the history on Bell wrt throttling. Please read the links in the article above.

I mean this in a kind way: your ignorance is showing.


travisc

join:2001-11-09
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reply to gdogg
Re: Figures

So you go after Cogeco, and get someone onto a DSL reseller... Which actually puts money back into Bell's pocket. Good plan?


gdogg

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Re: Figures

Better then supporting those who installed the traffic shaping hardware, ya i would, to me Cogeco is no better then rogers, just a diff neighborhood


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Re: Providing a new service - hang the SOBs

I think it's more along these lines....

Bell Marketing: We are going to be launching our new Video store soon.

Bell Management: But there are other stores out there, how will we be able to compete with them?

Bell Marketing: Simple, we have our network engineers degrade the service on all others, we own the pipes after all, that way everyone will be forced to go to our product if they want good performance.

Bell Management: But what about the ISP's we lease to?

Bell Legal: Oh don't worry....we had a poison pill buried in all of our contracts in case.

Bell Management: Shiney


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Hey they are bringing out a new service. So let's get out the tar & feathers and run them out of town on a rail. {/sarcasm}

Bell Video Store Q&A
»www.bellvideostore.ca/Help.htm
Funny, I missed the part that FORCED people to use the store. My bad!
They're not forcing you to use their video store, they're forcing you to NOT use anybody ELSE's video store.

Bell complains they have congestion in their network, so they throttle P2P and some other streaming media formats. This prevents competitors from delivering users to Sympatico customers. Bell also throttles the connections of wholesalers that buy aggregation services from Bell, so in effect, all DSL subscribers in Ontario/Quebec can use Bell's services, or nobody else.

That's a tad anti-competitive, doncha think? Walmart doesn't MAKE you shop there, they just drive everybody else out of business so that you don't have a choice. Same thing here, except worse; it's like Walmart is boarding up the doors on other peoples' stores to stop them from accepting customers.


BF69

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Camden, TN

Don't they have a cap?

Yes they do 60 GB. So are the movies downloaded from their store counted against the cap? If yes, don't expect many customers. Who is going to risk an overage free just to download a movie? If not then they'll have huge anti-trust issues. Download a movie from them and it doesn't count against cap, but download the same movie form Amazon and it does? can you say LAWSUIT?


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Download a movie from them and it doesn't count against cap, but download the same movie form Amazon and it does? can you say LAWSUIT?
Too bad we can't sue Bell in lawsuit-friendly Texas or Mississipi. The operative slogan after consumers winning against Bell in a venue like those would be "All your company are belong to us" - as paraphrased the text in manuals which often come with no-name peripherals from China.


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Sadistic Humour at its finest :)

The store has a limited selection of 1,500 movies and TV titles, playable only by Windows users, and protected by Windows Media DRM (mmm, excited yet?). Rentals range from $2-$5, and movie purchases cost up to $20 (usually $5 more than Amazon). Interested in playing the media on a mobile device? You have to own a mobile player by Archos, according to the website. Sounds enticing, Mr. monopoly.

I burst out laughing from this paragraph

Excellent wording Karl.

Yes, Bell is not the most intelligent company... nothing new to me .
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Re: Providing a new service - hang the SOBs

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by tertech See Profile :

So if Canada decided to renege on NAFTA and told the U.S. it could not supply the 1.8m bbl/day of oil because of Canadian needs, and then turned around and announced a deal with China to supply 2m bbl/day, you would be OK with that?
»www.thefreedictionary.com/non%20sequitur
non sequitur
A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.
If you've followed the history of this, it is not a non sequitur at all. It is a decent analogy.
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