DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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·Patriot Media
| LTE and GSM
I think Verizon is going to have to follow ATT when LTE becomes the norm. Since GSM (means EDGE, UMTS, LTE) allows just about any phone to work on a gsm/umts system. Verizon will not have an option. When 4G comes around in 2-4yrs. Its be open or loose customers. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Dragged kicking and screaming all the way.
LTE billed by the byte is very likely. Still think they'll fight tooth and nail against being wireless dumb pipes for as long as is possible.... |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
Premium
join:2005-01-03
·CableOne
| It's Kevin's fault
The FCC doesn't want open access to wireless networks because Kevie favors phone companies. No secret there. If Kevin stepped down, the Death Star would stop growing and phone companies would have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
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shoe1
join:2007-09-28
Colfax, CA | Question.......
Im sorry but what exactly do they mean by "open access." |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
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| It means you can use your own equipment (as in not locked to and/or restricted by a provider) on any compatible network. The Carterfone Decision referenced is what cracked the Bell stranglehold on phone equipment, allowing end users to buy and use their own stuff instead of renting everything from Ma.
In this context you could use any device with the proper technology, as in any smartphone or wireless tethering device not just those provided by the wireless carrier.
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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1 edit | All hail Sterquilinus
The FCC under Powell | | .jpg "15551 bytes")
The FCC under Martin | |
(Sterquilinus is the ancient Roman God of manure)
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Good
If Skype wants its own open wireless network, then they should do what the big players did and buy their own spectrum- er, this isn't anywhere near true as the original distribution of cellular spectrum was nowhere near as expensive and complicated as it was today, but...
But honestly, if the FCC is going to enforce provisions that hinder the cellular carrier's ability to make a profit after the cellular carriers have already set up systems under the current regulations, there should be sort of compensation- with the 700MHz auction, everyone knew there would be those provisions from the beginning. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to PolarBear
Re: It's Kevin's fault
said by PolarBear  :..If Kevin stepped down, the Death Star would stop growing and phone companies would have to play by the same rules as everyone else. don't get me wrong, I would love to see this, but what makes you think that is going to happen when Martin steps down?
although the democrats on the commission seem to actually get that they are supposed to be looking out for the public good, they have been so wishy washy while in the minority, I wouldn't be looking for any bold moves that actually hold the incumbents accountable when they become the majority. |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to EPS
Re: Good
The original distribution of cellular spectrum was before application and licensing fees were imposed by Congress, and was essentially free.
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Exactly, which is what I was referring to when I said "nowhere near as expensive and complicated"... I believe it was divided into two blocks, with one guaranteed to the local telephone monopoly and the other for competition (most of which ended up as part of "the old" AT&T Wireless as far I as know) |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | As a matter of accuracy, it is only as expensive as the bidders make it. The reserve prices are based on prior auctions and are not carved in stone.
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
| reply to EPS
Hey good idea. Every app that can be developed to work on a smart phone and over the airwaves should require the creator of said app to also create a wireless carrier, build a wireless network, and then they can start distributing that app.
While we are at it let's extend this to broadband as well. MS should have to create their own internet so that IE can utilize broadband. |
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tdar
join:2004-04-05
Satellite Beach, FL | reply to PolarBear
Re: It's Kevin's fault
As with so many other things we will get no relief until we have a new president to appoint a new leader for the FCC. I hope that our fellow citizens understand how important it is for us to elect the right president. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| reply to Skippy25
Re: Good
No, but they shouldn't get to force other companies to support their business model... If there is a consumer demand for open wireless networks, then why not build one?
Actually, that's what Sprint is doing with WiMAX, right? If the openness of WiMAX becomes a popular selling point, other networks will be forced to follow by the market (just look at unlimited plans)- without the government forcing anything. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| reply to tdar
Re: It's Kevin's fault
said by tdar :As with so many other things we will get no relief until we have a new president to appoint a new leader for the FCC. I hope that our fellow citizens understand how important it is for us to elect the right president. Correct. Vote for McCain.
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| said by TKJunkMail :Vote for McCain. you do seem to like the way things are now, so voting for the person that will keep it that way makes sense to me. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to Transmaster
Re: All hail Sterquilinus
said by Transmaster :I can't tell any difference, can you?... well, they are different piles.
I think Martin's pile looks worse. |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
Premium
join:2005-01-03 | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: It's Kevin's fault
Thanks for informing us of your political agenda, however, that stuff belongs here: »/forum/watercooler |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| said by PolarBear :Thanks for informing us of your political agenda, however, that stuff belongs here: » /forum/watercooler I didn't bring up the subject of electing the RIGHT president. I just replied to it. And nobody made you a moderator.
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to Transmaster
Re: All hail Sterquilinus
said by Transmaster :I can't tell any difference, can you? One eats more fiber than the other. |
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