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Comments on news posted 2008-02-25 18:21:28: Comcast, under investigation by the FCC for throttling upstream P2P traffic with forged packets, fielded questions today at an FCC hearing at Harvard on traffic shaping. ..

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Monster Rain
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Screwed the pooch

Comcast really screwed the pooch with their implementation of Sandvine. They deserve all they get.


TKJunkMail
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Comcast calls NY Attrny Gnrl a publicity seeking hack .....

... in so many words.
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"I think the New York Attorney General has demonstrated an interesting proclivity for wanting to get involved in potentially high-profile matters all around the country, whether they have anything to do with New York state or not," said Cohen.
NY State has a tendency to create Attorney Generals with an overly developed self importance looking to make names for themselves. 1st Spitzer, and now Cuomo.
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Politics aside, Good for NY's AG

cookies to the NY AG..

Now if more AGs got involved, Comcast would really have no choice but to discontinue this illegal practice.

Lets hope the current FCC talks can get this stopped sooner rather then later, such as after a long drawn-out legal proceeding.


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Comcast should not be hammering on users to throttle/shape traffic. What if everyone went online and started streaming TV over the Internet ? Would Comcast throttle them too ?
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Controlling P2P wasn't their aim

It was normalizing traffic shaping for a future double dipping for content delivery.

How do I know this you ask?

Cause if they wanted to control seeding, just cap the upload after "excessive use" just like Cablevision has been doing for years. Stop the seeding, stop the problem.

But that solution wouldn't satisfy their ultimate goal which is introduce traffic shaping under the guise of fighting piracy, then slowly expand it to fight Google, iTunes, Amazon Unbox and other competitors of Comcast.

RadioDoc
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Exactly.

SilverSurfer

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Bring the noise

If AG Cuomo is a deserving successor to Spitzer, then this is his moment. All it's going to take is one state AG's office to initiate a class action lawsuit and all the others will join in. It couldn't happen to a more deserving mega-corp.

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Re: Controlling P2P wasn't their aim

said by Dogfather See Profile :

It was normalizing traffic shaping for a future double dipping for content delivery.

Bingo. This is nothing more than an end run around of the NN issue.


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Re: Comcast calls NY Attrny Gnrl a publicity seeking hack .....

said by Comcast's David Cohen :

"I think the New York Attorney General has demonstrated an interesting proclivity for wanting to get involved in potentially high-profile matters all around the country, whether they have anything to do with New York state or not," said Cohen.
Go ahead, little boy. Reach into the tiger's cage and pet the nice kitty.
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"We don't throttle any traffic," -Charlie Douglas, Comcast spokesman, on this report.


GoodLuckChuck

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The other side of the coin...

Comcast explicitly prohibits servers on residential accounts. P2P is a server. What part of that doesn't the AG understand? Seems clear to me.

Maybe the AG should go after all the thieves that are using P2P illegally to distribute copyrighted material.


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Re: Comcast calls NY Attrny Gnrl a publicity seeking hack .....

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

NY State has a tendency to create Attorney Generals with an overly developed self importance looking to make names for themselves. 1st Spitzer, and now Cuomo.
Doesn't matter. They tend to bring consumer issues to light and take action on them, which other state AJ's look the other way at. Let 'em grandstand if it helps to protect the general public's interest.
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Hey Comcast,
SPEND THE MONEY TO UPGRADE YOUR BADLY OVER BURDENDED NETWORK INSTEAD OF BOOTING OFF USERS THAT USE IT TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL.


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Re: Controlling P2P wasn't their aim

said by Dogfather See Profile :

But that solution wouldn't satisfy their ultimate goal which is introduce traffic shaping under the guise of fighting piracy, then slowly expand it to fight Google, iTunes, Amazon Unbox and other competitors of Comcast.
Wasn't that Ed, the phone guy, that wanted to double charge Google et al for traversing the telco's pipes on the way to the customer?

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Re: Controlling P2P wasn't their aim

SBC Ed retired and took that silly idea with him. Comcast Brian, however, is still at the helm and hell-bent on keeping competition off his systems.
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Double dipping wouldn't be the first idea ripped from the telco's "f the consumer" playbook.

Meanwhile I get to watch NCTA's Net neutrality is a scheme of the Silicon Valley Fat Cats commercials because cable is looking to protect me from the evil doers at Google and Amazon.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPIYxtjLFeI


Yeah right. Cable is just aching to charge twice for delivery of the same content and Comcast's plan is well in the works.

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Those are by the NCTA, which pretty much shows how much the cable TV industry is scared shitless by the possibility we'll be easily bypassing their overpriced video on demand very soon.
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Dogfather
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Edited after seeing the "paid for by" tag at the bottom. I've seen them on Cox, but I haven't yet seen them run on TWC.

But it's so ludicrous you would think it was one of those SNL parodies.


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At least that is better than that stupid (and horrid sounding) "God Save the Internet" song.

*puke*
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Indeed. Of course they've pretty much been a parody of themselves for awhile.

I hooked up my laptop to our 42" Toshiba LCD HDTV last night and tested Netflix's movies-on-demand offering. It was every bit as good as standard digital cable quality-wise and started playing in less than 30 seconds on my 6 meg DSL connection. Not one single buffering incident for 100 minutes of the movie. And it is a "free" adjunct to our $15/mo 3 at a time account. Amazon's Unbox works great with our TiVo, too. Cable is becoming more and more irrelevant.
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