kapil
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| O RLY?
Now, seriously, aside from the T fanboys, who didn't see this coming?
Allow a company to be a virtual monopoly, take away the regulatory oversight and what do you get? ...ask anyone who lived in USSR....no choice, high prices.
Who is surprised by this?
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pnh102
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| said by kapil  :...ask anyone who lived in USSR....no choice, high prices. They had DSL in the USSR?
Heck, did most of the people in the USSR even have access to landline phone service at all?
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kapil
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| said by pnh102 :They had DSL in the USSR? Heck, did most of the people in the USSR even have access to landline phone service at all? No...but they did have lots of government sanctioned and owned monopolies. Which resulted in zero choice for the consumer.
You want a car? Call The Car Company. You want Bread, call The Bread Company. Just like now, in the U.S., you want DSL, call AT&T (or Verizon, depending on who owns copper in your neck of the woods)
Don't you see? lack of government oversight has landed us in such a swamp that we will be lucky if we escape it....the mortgage mess from lack of oversight of banks is not that much different from the lack of competition in the communications field due to lack of oversight of telcos.
This hands-off policy of the last 7-8 years has bankrupted this country and lined the pockets of the very few at the top.
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TKJunkMail
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|  "NON SEQUITUR" AT&T post
»AT&T To Raise DSL PricesComing on the heels of an outage in AT&T's 3G and Edge network that affected many Midwestern states, the Chicago Tribune is reporting that the telco will be tacking on an additional $5 a month for its DSL service And what exactly does a 3G/Edge outage have to do with a DSL price increase. Except maybe just another dump on the telco rant?
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Matt
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Does anyone else find it maddeningly frustrating trying to read DSLPrime? It's like a squirrel on crack typed it up. The main page has broken images, broken links ... I can't even find the referenced quote from the DSLR news blurb. |
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Matt
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Re: "NON SEQUITUR" AT&T post
said by TKJunkMail :» AT&T To Raise DSL PricesComing on the heels of an outage in AT&T's 3G and Edge network that affected many Midwestern states, the Chicago Tribune is reporting that the telco will be tacking on an additional $5 a month for its DSL service And what exactly does a 3G/Edge outage have to do with a DSL price increase. Except maybe just another dump on the telco rant? A way to generate revenue to fix whatever caused the 3G/Edge outage?  |
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Monopoly, Duopoly and Oligopoly? Depending on market, limited choices and regulation further distills the customer base. The haves and have-not.
As for Russia and NET - The new rich (oil and mob) have everything and are now sending buying groups to San Francisco (& elsewhere in US) to 'acquire' properties from the decimated real estate market.
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TKJunkMail
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said by Matt :Does anyone else find it maddeningly frustrating trying to read DSLPrime? It's like a squirrel on crack typed it up. The main page has broken images, broken links ... I can't even find the referenced quote from the DSLR news blurb. That is because it isn't there.
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"AT&T is claiming in a statement that popularity of video and music downloads as well as photo sharing and online gaming are behind the increase, citing the "billions of dollars [AT&T invests] each year to stay ahead of these trends" plus the current "market conditions"."
Translation: We need these extra monies to make the stock holders happy...
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Austinloop
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Re: O RLY?
I would take exception to your assumption that the lack of oversight of banks is the cause of the mortgage mess. The blame needs to be shared with those people that took out mortgages that they knew would be a problem for them to repay when the interest rate changed. You have just as much greed from the individual buyers, in some cases, as you do from the banks. |
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kapil
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Re: O RLY?
said by Austinloop :I would take exception to your assumption that the lack of oversight of banks is the cause of the mortgage mess. The blame needs to be shared with those people that took out mortgages that they knew would be a problem for them to repay when the interest rate changed. You have just as much greed from the individual buyers, in some cases, as you do from the banks. Yes, nothing can substitute personal responsibility. Individual...and at the corporate level.
A LOT of people knew they were taking advantage of system with holes in it.....but a lot of innocent homeowners got taken for a ride. There are no innocent mortgage brokers or real estate brokers, or lender, or appraisers. And I work in that industry.
Realtors have a fiduciary and ethical responsibility to act in the best interest of their clients. Mortgage brokers aren't fiduciary, but to have a legal mandate to do things legally and ethically. Appraisers are also ethically and legally bound to do things right...lenders have more laws that bind them.
But everyone let greed take over. Lot of that going around these part 8 years.
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kapil
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Re: "NON SEQUITUR" AT&T post
Yes, of course...how dare anyone criticize a power and money hungry corporation. It does not follow. It does not compute.
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dslwanter
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That's going up, DirecTV is going up, now I just need them to jack up phone service and I will have another good reason for us to switch to Armstrong Cable when they finish installing FTTN across the township.
Keep raising the price but don't do jack shit to better the services you offer to this township, terrific business ethics!
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bogey780
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Re: O RLY?
Clearly you slept through clas the day they taught market economics ad why the USSR had no choice and outstripped demand.
By having central planning dictate what would be produced and for how much it would be sold for, there ended up being a glut of cheap poorly made products on the market. But because that's all people could get they'd always be a high demand because central planners would almost always fail to predict demand because of naive notions on politics and economics.
It had nothing to do with monpolistic practices. Unless you consider the USSRs monopoly on force as counting.
So why you think central plannig can fix this is anyone's guess. |
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Austinloop
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Isn't ethics and the entire real estate industry, like used car sales, an oxymoron??
And the above observation was made prior to the past 7 years. |
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bogey780
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Anyone who follows my diatribes knows that I'm no AT&T fanboy so I don't even want to hear it.
I have Elite so it seems I'm immune to the price increase, but in general I think this is the correct approach. I'm against them trying to charge the Google's/DirecTV/Microsoft's of the world... I pay for my connection and on the whole our subscriptions should pay for the cost of doing business. My speed is consitent and my circuit performs as advertised. Until the day everything becomes congested, I think it's premature to say that they are greedy pigs raising the rates just to increase profits. It'll be obvious if they improve their network or not. |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: "NON SEQUITUR" AT&T post
said by kapil :Yes, of course...how dare anyone criticize a power and money hungry corporation. It does not follow. It does not compute. Hey, I don't expect anything but criticism of telcos and cable from the BBR front page. But, at the very least, they should avoid tying 2 completely disparate items together in their quest to attack the telcos.
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