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Silver Spring, MD | Re: Blu-Ray will win yea, same... how's that the "worst" advice you ever heard on BBR is beyond me. Whats the problem with a dvd player then can play "FF7" and "Metal Gear Solid 2" AND "300" and "3:10 to Yuma"?
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3 edits | Re: Blu-Ray will win find me an blu-ray player that can eject an disk in 3 seconds and can start an disk in 2 seconds
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| said by cvrefugee  :A PS2 as a DVD player? Are you serious? That's the worst advice I've ever heard on BBR. Agreed.
Sony used that as a selling point, and the thing had lousy quality, and was unable to play movies in progressive scan. Further, it wrecked the disc drives and laser so bad trying that any who then wanted to use it for playing their PS2 games found the consoles going to disc read errors faster than a new inmate getting raped in Oz. | |
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1 edit | said by supergirl :Sorry but Sony will have learned from the Betamax debacle. Personally, I think SuperVHS is better than DVDs. It is strange my cassettes, Vinyl, and VHS last forever compared to DVDs and CDs. And, if you want a cheap DVD player that works forever, try a Playstation 2. I've been using one for 2 years now on a 2nd TV and have cleaned it once. It plays Netflix and DVDs that have been through hell (the Post Office).  yea my ps2 has been working nicely .tooo
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| said by supergirl :And, if you want a cheap DVD player that works forever, try a Playstation 2. I've been using one for 2 years now on a 2nd TV and have cleaned it once. It plays Netflix and DVDs that have been through hell (the Post Office). lol, two years? I have a standalone DVD player that is now 10 years old and is still in use although my main player is Blu-Ray. | |
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1 edit | Re: Blu-Ray will win said by Pictor Guy :said by supergirl :And, if you want a cheap DVD player that works forever, try a Playstation 2. I've been using one for 2 years now on a 2nd TV and have cleaned it once. It plays Netflix and DVDs that have been through hell (the Post Office). lol, two years? I have a standalone DVD player that is now 10 years old and is still in use although my main player is Blu-Ray. Funny, that PS2 has been playing DVDs maybe 6 hours a day for 2 years. That's like 182 days of playing continuosly. Duh, they play DVD-ROMs forever so why not? 
I've since, after my SONY went bad after 6 years, bought 2 DVD players and lucky if they play NEW DVDs that often and that long. Also, these that put it at 1080(whatever)i/p is ludicrous. JUNK is what I call most of them. 
Can't I get just a good DVD player without all the crap they put on them? And, not made in Malaysia or China? My 2 SONY TVs were made in Japan. Both are like 3 and 10 years old.
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| Re: Blu-Ray will win said by Beta Fan :
The Beta format was superior compared to ANYTHING the VHS camp could throw at it. Its limitations were the record time, the VHS with its 8 hour T160 tapes beat the Beta 5 1/2 hours. Beta won in the professional world as the camcorders that news crews used were Betamax. Today the Beta format is being used by professionals as Beta Digital. Sony is the king of video formats period.
I defy even a several thousand dollar Extended Definition Beta deck to beat the image quality that my $450 JVC S-VHS deck (HR-S9900U) is capable of. It's one of several in a line of JVC decks that featured digital clean-up of the chroma/luminance signal, as well as digital time base correction. | |
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| The old Beta was/is great and for it's day it did beat VHS. But since you're saying ANYTHING VHS can throw at it... let me dust off my D-VHS deck. 
Today Betacams has been largely replaced but distant variants are still used such as HDCAM/SR. But you can't really say they're both the same. | |
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| Methinks you see the world through Kryptonite colored glasses. I have ALL the formats of the last 30+ years and SVHS pales in comparison to Beta1S. Laser and DVD destroy any variation of VHS like the destruction of your home planet.
And I dunno what optical media you have been playing with, but since there is virtually no wear and tear due to reading via laser, optical media should pretty much last forever. | |
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| You just contradicted yourself! The same Netflix DVD's that have gone "through hell" ... according to you ... [do not] 'last forever' as your vhs/vinyls does? I hope you were kidding. Vinyl would melt during shipping. Cassettes/VHS would lose their magnetism over time.
said by supergirl :Personally, I think SuperVHS is better than DVDs. It is strange my cassettes, Vinyl, and VHS last forever compared to DVDs and CDs. And, if you want a cheap DVD player that works forever, try a Playstation 2. I've been using one for 2 years now on a 2nd TV and have cleaned it once. It plays Netflix and DVDs that have been through hell (the Post Office). | |
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3 edits | Re: Blu-Ray will win Lets talk practiality. Super VHS/vinyl would last if you just let it sit there and do nothing with it. But it won't last well beyond a few years. It WILL deteriorate in quality, especially magnetic medium. A CD that was produced in 1979 would still sound 100% the same today using equal quality playback equipment. Can't say that about tapes.
If you put even a MINOR SCRATCH on vinyl, you will hear it. That does not happen on a CD/DVD. Getting scratches on a media is normal wear and tear. Given normal operational conditions like this, the sound quality on the vinyl would deteriorate much rapidly under normal usage.
Your contradiction is in your implications of what lasts in real life conditions. I can assure you any analogue medium will deteriorate over time especially when its actually USED and put into real life situations.
I would like you to put your Cassettes and Vinyl through the hell the the post office is and see which would last longer or lose quality.
By the way how do you figure superVHS is better than DVDs? What makes SuperVHS superior to DVDs? Resolution? NO... SuperVHS does not do 480p. Can your SuperVHS do 5.1 dolby surround sound? How about vinyl? The ability to reproduce 100% of the recorded material 100% of the time? No... So what exactly makes SuperVHS 'better'? Can it reproduce the audio spectrum beyond 20kHz? Consistently? I don't think so.
What you say sounds like what I hear from those vinyls lovers ... yeah 'it sounds better than CD.' Sure, but don't forget the the stylus picks up about 20% of unwanted sound from either side of the stereo groove in vinyl. All of a sudden what was recorded is now being distorted by the stylus. So if you like to hear what is not 100% what the artist recorded, be my guest. Until vinyl can 100% reproduce what was recorded at the studio 100% of the time, 1000 plays later, don't tell me its better. Same goes for any anologue medium, including SuperVHS.
DVD's have less wear and tear on them under normal usage. Tapes and vinyl actually RUB against other things in order to produce a signal. You can't say that about a DVD or a CD.
Try this experiment:
1) Play a SuperVHS tape repeatedly for 1 year. (auto rewind and replay)
2) Play a vinyl record repeatedly for 1 year. (auto reload/replay)
3) Play a DVD and/or CD repeatedly for 1 year.
See which one lasts the longest.
said by supergirl :said by rizwan602 :You just contradicted yourself! The same Netflix DVD's that have gone "through hell" ... according to you ... [do not] 'last forever' as your vhs/vinyls does? I hope you were kidding. Vinyl would melt during shipping. Cassettes/VHS would lose their magnetism over time. said by supergirl :Personally, I think SuperVHS is better than DVDs. It is strange my cassettes, Vinyl, and VHS last forever compared to DVDs and CDs. And, if you want a cheap DVD player that works forever, try a Playstation 2. I've been using one for 2 years now on a 2nd TV and have cleaned it once. It plays Netflix and DVDs that have been through hell (the Post Office). 1. Read it again to see if I contradicted myself 2. I didn't. 3. If you still think so, go to step 1. (BTW - Did I say casettes and Vinyl would last through the hell called the Post Office? No. Where did you get that?) | |
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Seriously, there are still 2 studios on board for the immediate future. Finally, HD DVD players also serve as competent upconverters. | |
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Henderson, NV | Re: Paper Weight yes when I am extremely tired and fall asleep at my desk sometimes they are on top of papers so I guess yes my face (head) does serve as a great paperweight...
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| said by vinnie97 :So does your face! Seriously, there are still 2 studios on board for the immediate future. Finally, HD DVD players also serve as competent upconverters. Dude, give it up HD DVD is going to be die out.
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| Re: Paper Weight said by ztmike :said by vinnie97 :So does your face! Seriously, there are still 2 studios on board for the immediate future. Finally, HD DVD players also serve as competent upconverters. Dude, give it up HD DVD is going to be die out. Next, after Universal and Paramount have gone Blu-ray, you'll read things like "HD DVD still has xyz movie studio, it's still a battle, it could still win!", where xyz is some studio we never heard of.  | |
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| Re: Paper Weight I didn't say anything of the sort. Universal and Paramount are still on board, they are substantial. With the level of competition Blu-ray has (DVD, VOD, downloads and HD DVD itself), the BDA can't afford this to continue on indefinitely. Toshiba can fight for their right to stay alive as long as they deem necessary...it's only their royalties that are at stake here. | |
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1 edit | At least HD-DVD players aren't in need of the constant firmware updates like BluRay is.
Hell, Fox alone has forced DRM updates more often than the amount of guys that Paris Hilton tries to get to sleep with her on camera in any given week.
Not to mention HD-DVD still has the only proper releases of 300, Transformers, Matrix Trilogy and a lot of the movies I'd want to see in High Definition. | |
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| Re: Paper Weight said by Jon Geb :Ut oh... someone bought the wrong player! I didn't buy either yet.said by bogey780 :Actually you've proven that you've no clue what you're talking about. Updates for DRM? Seriously, do you even know what a DVD is? commercial DVD's all use CSS, which has been decrypted long ago.
BluRay movies use AACS, BD-ROM Mark and BD+, with fox being particularly guilty of using BD+ and updating nearly every time they release a new movie on the format. Then nearly every stand-alone BluRay player on the market gets the "update your firmware" screen and is unable to play the movie. And in some cases, the manufacturers already stopped making firmware updates for said players because they'd already released a newer model that they want to sell you - for another $500 or so.
I wouldn't exactly call arstechnica some "no cred" site, as they have been in the business of technology reporting for several years. And they were among the first to discover the issues with trying to play these new BD+ enabled BluRay titles.
What also bothers me is that if I were to say want to burn something to a DVD formatted so that it could be played on either a BluRay or HD-DVD system, the HD-DVD recording would only require AACS DRM to play on an HD-DVD player. On the other hand, the BluRay version would require [url=AACS, BD-ROM Mark and BD+ before said stand-alone will decide to play the disc.
All that this is showing me is that Hollywood "doesn't get it" when it comes to DRM, and are only clinging to the format that puts on more DRM in the media, rather than by any other technical merit BluRay may/does have.
And considering that BluRay is a Sony format through and through, it means all these players out there will decide to implode the nanosecond they go out of warranty so that they can make you rebuy another player in order to be able to enjoy your library still. That's just how Sony works (post-PlayStation).
As long as Sony continues to make unreliable junk, I want nothing more to do with them. The only reason I keep my PS2 is largely to try and justify the library I'd amassed for games on the system and because I'd still like to play some of those games now and again. And since Sony neutered the BC support on the currently available PS3 models, I've even less reason to downgrade to one with a built-in BluRay drive. It'd be like going from XP to Vista, only things look uglier in the transition. | |
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| Re: Paper Weight 'Then nearly every stand-alone BluRay player on the market gets the "update your firmware" screen and is unable to play the movie.'
Lie #1- BD+ is a VM that detects changes in software or firmware designed to bypass decryption. No player update needed.
'And in some cases, the manufacturers already stopped making firmware updates for said players'
Lie #2- All manufacturers still release firmware and provide support for all their BD players.
'I wouldn't exactly call arstechnica some "no cred" site'
Fallacy #1- Arstechnica is not a source for facts, it's a news posting site. Much like Karl posts about DSL, it doesn't make him an expert on troubleshooting or diagnosing DSL problems. The fallacy you display is taking guesswork by the poster as proof. The actual problem was one of the titles mentioned was the first major implementation of BD+. The other didn't have BD+ but did have a version of java that older players could not read without an update.
'On the other hand, the BluRay version would require [url=AACS, BD-ROM Mark and BD+ before said stand-alone will decide to play the disc.'
Lie #3- Depending on the authoring and permissions of the player a burnt copy will work. In fact, there are burnt copies playing in standalones right now. Just like some DVD+R's will not work in some DVD players some BD-R or RWs will not work right in some standalones.
'And considering that BluRay is a Sony format through and through, it means all these players out there will decide to implode the nanosecond they go out of warranty'
Fallacy #2- BD is supported and players made by several manufacturers. Why you think Sharp, Pioneer, and Denon will make crappy players is anyone's guess.
'And since Sony neutered the BC support on the currently available PS3 models'
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| Re: Paper Weight 'And I can guarantee you that the machines that are being used to press these BluRay discs'
There are several blu-ray lines, only a handful are run by Sony. As far as hardware, they're doing pretty good so far with quality control. They've certainly beat the pants off of Microsoft. And arguably Toshiba has had more embarassment with problems with their players. There was a problem with film from manufaturing causing problems on The Matrix. That one had people dipping their discs in boiling water. Then Toshiba bonked things up when they issued a firmware patch that desynched audio and video. Having hung around the AV sites, Toshiba certainly doesn't have a lot to crow about in terms of reliability. | |
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| RIP HD-DVD HD-DVD is dead and the sooner people realise that the better. As well as stand alone players outselling HD-DVD ones by 9:1 in the last 3 months of 2007 in Japan, there were also 475,000 PS3's sold there in that period. HD-DVD cant possibly win now. Amazon are selling HD-DVD players for $129 with 7 free movies yet people still arent buying them.
Instead of falling for the new HD-DVD tactic of selling HD-DVD players as up converting DVD players people should simply wait for BluRay players to get cheaper and use them as an up converting DVD player. At least then if you want to buy HD films you will be able to get some. | |
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| Its virtually over Yes when Time Warner Switched over to Blue Ray...it defiantly ended hd-dvd. We were headed to duel player drives, but even that seems unlikely to be worth it.
Frankly HD-DVD should of made a better offer to Time Warner or lowered there price of there players faster. Now Toshiba has no choice to lower the price of there players, but its already too late. The Market knows its lost value. Toshiba really missed the boat on the HDTV market and the Blue Ray Market.
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| Re: Its virtually over said by bhorow :Yes when Time Warner Switched over to Blue Ray...it defiantly ended hd-dvd. We were headed to duel player drives, but even that seems unlikely to be worth it. Frankly HD-DVD should of made a better offer to Time Warner That wouldn't have mattered. That would have just prolonged the war something Warner did NOT want. Warner said it waited until after the holidays to see if selling those HD-DVD players for $99 would make a difference. They concluded it did not, so they chose blu-ray because they knew that would end the stalemate.
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»www.australianit.news.com.au/sto···,00.html
Blu-ray takes lead in war with HD DVD
Leo Lewis | January 10, 2008
THE sprawling consortium of technology and media companies assembled to promote the HD DVD format of next-generation, high-definition discs could be close to collapse after a spate of defections to the rival Blu-ray disc group. »www.portableplanet.co.uk/2008/01···ly-over/
Blu-ray Vs. HD DVD Debate May Be Finally Over
Published by John Phillips January 6th, 2008 in Tech, Entertainment, Movies, Business.
It appears that Warner Brothers may have delivered a death blow in the ongoing high definition DVD war.
Warner Brothers has announced that they have decided to exclusively release high-def titles in the Blu-ray format. Warner had previously been neutral on the issue, releasing movies in both Blu-ray and HD DVD up to now.
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I think Blu Ray will be a niche market for the techies, and AV fans. Plus Blu Ray now has the added threat of downloads from the likes of Apple to contend with to complicate matters. Blu Ray needs to sort out its messy profiles, slow startup players, and add firmware update ports to be considered a proper format in my opinion. | |
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| Don't care about BluRay or HD-DVD I think it's kind of funny how so many people jumped into HD-DVD and now that the writing is on the wall, those people get so upset at what's going on. Most stupid of all would have to be the 360 owners that paid $179 for an external HD-DVD player. You can only use those for movies unlike PS3's that can take advantage of the full 50G's of space for games. (how many 360 games have hit the wall now? UT3 Assasin's Creed, Mass Effect, etc. I love Mass Effect to death but my lord the compression crap they used to fit it on the tiny 8Gig disk makes it so slow and makes disk access almost constant during game play )
I own both a PS3 and 360. I know I was charged an extra $100 for a built in BluRay drive on the PS3 but I was actually happy about that. 360 games are already hitting the 9GB disk space wall and I can't stand multi-disk console games. The PS3 disks have ~42 Gig's more space on them! Plus, I've got a free BluRay movie player (I consider that a bonus really - it was more about the disk size to me). And, BTW the PS3 is a much better standard/upscaling DVD player than the 360 IMHO after using both and the 360 longer.
I have two LCD's in my house right now:
1) Brand new 32" Samsung 720p in my gameroom
2) $2000 40" Sony Bravia 1080p in my living room
Recently, I did the following in my living room with my 1080p 40" Sony @ 10' away viewing distance.
1) Pirates of the Caribbean BluRay in my PS3 / HDMI
2) Pirates of the Caribbean DVD in my upscaling HDMI DVD player
3) By pausing at the beginning (00:00:00 start) of each movie, I started them at the same time
4) I thin flipped back and forth many times between the two sources.
Honestly, I wasn't that impressed at all. The difference between the two sources I could only describe as "minor". Maybe I'm crazy or need new glasses - or maybe a 70" 1080p LCD would have revealed more of a difference.
With that in mind, I'm not touching any BluRay or HD-DVD disks. All of them are $20-30 right now, but standard movies are much cheaper ($5-19). The whole problem with HD disks and even standard DVD's is how freaking much they cost. I mean VHS tapes were at least $5 cheaper and they had a lot more materials involved including moving parts. I forever raise my middle finger at the Motion Picture Association. It must only cost like $3 to make and package a brand new movie release, yet at best they show up at walmart for $15.99. Same thing with music CD's.
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | Re: Don't care about BluRay or HD-DVD I've picked up several blu-ray and hd-dvd movies recently that were as low as $15. In fact, with the exception of the Transformers HD-DVD, all the BR and HD movies I've been buying have been under $20. | |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
| I'd rather HD DVD won... I don't have either format but as far as I know, the proponents of HD DVD seem to be less in bed with the primary content producers of content -- the movie studios.
Sony owns Columbia, TriStar, Screen Gems and lots of other content. In my opinion, this is a bit like the cable and telephone companies owning media companies. It's dangerous because one company can exert too much control and only after a massive monopoly coagulates do we end up with government regulation. And we all know how well that already works in the telecommunications space. | |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
| Re: I'd rather HD DVD won... I have both a 360 hd-dvd drive and a ps3, but I like the hd-dvd releases a little better. If the movie is on both formats, I'll usually get the HD-DVD version because of the extras. HD-DVD has had better features than BR from the start as well. It's only in the last month that profile 1.1, with interactive menus and PIP has become available, and only with 2 discs and 2 players. Most of the BR units purchased are unable to play these features. | |
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