amejr999
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Are they kidding me? Who comes up with that name? |
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Rob
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| said by amejr999  :Are they kidding me? Who comes up with that name? A recent Harvard Grad looking to score points with the big guys.. and it works. |
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phantom6294
join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD | I have a question...
"These charges are not taxes and are not amounts we are required to collect from you."
Does that mean we are not required to pay them????  |
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TKJunkMail
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|  Unfees are marketing/lobbying efforts against regulation
All unfees are is an attempt by phone companies to bring to the attention of their customers the underlying costs in meeting government regulations. They could just bury the fees in the price of the service, but this way they agressively keep in front of their customers that part of their costs that are incurred as a result of government regulation.
Just see it as advertising and not some attempt to deceive the public.
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netwire
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| Uncluding?
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Sprint Nextel is charging the Administrative Charge to help defray various costs imposed on us by ther telecommunications carriers, uncluding --
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raythompsontn
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Oliver Springs, TN
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"defray various costs imposed on us by ther telecommunications carriers, uncluding, but not limited to"
Surprise, surprise, the term in bold will show up in a google search. Is that a new term for excluding? Or is just a stupid copy editor? |
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PhoenixDown
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Re: Unfees are marketing/lobbying efforts against regulation
They can add it above the line... which means they would have to advertise that this is part of the rate but at least it would be honest.
Monthly Recurring Charge - $40.00
Text Messaging Plan - $10.00
Unlimited Data - $20.00
Administrative Costs - $5.00
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SubTotal - $75.00
Tax - $1.80
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DotMac4
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Bullshit, it's an attempt by phone companies to lie about the costs of their service.
They'll advertise an artificially low price then charge these bullcrap fees.
ALL businesses have regulatory costs, ALL of them do. Telcos are just one of the few (another being airlines) who itemize it in attempt to bait and switch on customers.
Why not just have all costs of doing business itemized on our bills?
How about the water cooler recovery fee?
How about a parking lot restriping recovery fee?
How about an obscene retirement package for our CEO recovery fee?
Nope. This is telcos wanting to lie in advertising saying they're selling a service for $29.99 when it's really $40. |
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Karl Bode
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Re: What idiot wrote that piece....
A user who sent in the notice had transcribed it wrong. The fault though belongs to the idiot copy editor, and it has been corrected. |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: Unfees are marketing/lobbying efforts against regulation
said by DotMac4 :ALL businesses have regulatory costs, ALL of them do. Telcos are just one of the few who itemize it in attempt to bait and switch on customers. Why not just have all costs of doing business itemized on our bills? How about the water cooler recovery fee? How about a parking lot restriping recovery fee? How about an obscene retirement package for our CEO recovery fee? I agree that a breakdown of all costs would be interesting. In fact, you can see these anytime you want by reading a company's SEC filings.
But aside from the obscene CEO pkgs , a company can do little about most of those costs. But they can lobby for less gov't regulation which is an unnecessary cost as far as I am concerned. And the unfees is a way they try to get their customers on their side in that effort.
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rmrper
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Garland, TX | reply to Karl Bode
Re: What idiot wrote that piece....
Gee my sprint bill is going up. They say they are removing the $0.40 E911 fee and the $0.15 WLNP fee, but adding the two mentioned above, so I see an increase. Lovely. |
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DotMac4
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Re: Unfees are marketing/lobbying efforts against regulation
Why when they could put it right on the bill with all of the other BS itemizing.
This has nothing with telcos "campaigning" for lower government regulation and everything about them wanting to advertise stuff for less than the real price.
It's just like the "number portability fee" that netted companies like Sprint $60 million a year.
Truth in advertising whether it's about stupid caps and traffic shaping or what stuff costs.
My cable HSI for example is exactly to the penny the price I was quoted by Time Warner when I ordered online.
Online they quoted the price as $44.95 plus $10.00 for the extreme tier. When I get my bill it's $44.95 plus $10 for the extreme tier...no junk fees, unfees or other lies.
Compare that to my Verizon DSL bill where I had just for DSL, a nrecovery fee that amounted to nearly 10% of my service cost. And this was a different recovery fee from one charged on the POTS portion of that same copper. »BellSouth, Speakeasy join Verizon on Bogus 'Fees'
Telcos much be compelled to do the same as cable. If it's a REAL tax 100% of which is paid DIRECTLY to a state board or equalization (eg a sales tax) then yeah, itemize it 'cause the customer isn't paying it to the telco...every penny goes to the state. But these other BS "recovery" fees must go as they're a cost of business like all other overhead. |
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SOLdesign
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I may be wrong, but since they are changing the terms of the contract, doesn't that mean you can call in and renegotiate also?
I call in each year anyway and renegotiate, and we save. There are always new plans/combos that will work to your benefit. Since we have no home phone, we save in the end on total costs. |
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jgkolt
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"In addition to record-low customer satisfaction levels due to their troubled merger with Nextel,..."
They had horrible customer service before the merger. the merger was just the largest recent action they can blame it on. Remember some of thier other errors where they billed people for phones started from when they ordered them online not when they activated in the users hand? I do . And not refunding them but charging the user the whole time and EVEN IF THE PHONE DIDNT WORK AND IT WAS BEING RETURNED. I do
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slckusr
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Maumee, OH | and the world rolls on
its just a dollar or two. i commend them for being up front and not trying to hide their bull s..! charges behind the government. |
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hurfy
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Spokane, WA
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Re: Unfees are marketing/lobbying efforts against regulation
Exactly
The best one i see is our bill from XO. They are 10% cheaper than qwest for local phone service. Just don't mind the 12% 'Access Recovery' fee tacked on. Plus a whole slew of other fees.
AT&T was still adding a line for property tax when we dropped them. This was ruled against in WA. Guess they have more legislators in their pocket than the car dealers that got nailed with it :/ |
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pnh102
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said by TKJunkMail :All unfees are is an attempt by phone companies to bring to the attention of their customers the underlying costs in meeting government regulations The problem is that the cell phone industry is getting away with a practice that few other companies can get away with. If I go to a grocery store to buy something, I see the price that is charged, and I pay a sales tax. I know that the grocery store has fixed costs imposed on it by the government, such as minimum wages, fire safety codes, health and safety requirements for food and the like. However, when I go to buy a given item at the store, these costs are included in the price.
If I wanted, I could look at other stores carrying similar items, and comparison shop based on price, knowing that another store isn't showing an artificially low price that includes an "unfee."
said by TKJunkMail :Just see it as advertising and not some attempt to deceive the public. But the end result is that the public is being deceived. The only way I could find out what the "true" cost of cell phone service is would be to try out each provider and then cancel within the allotted time frame, provided it doesn't expire before I receive my first bill.
If the advertised price for cell phone service, less actual taxes that go directly into government coffers (as I could look these up if I wanted), was listed, then it makes shopping around for cell phone service much easier. Otherwise, I see the day coming when each company would offer service for one penny a month, and not mention the $50 or so in fees that are added to that.
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MrMoody
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Re: I may be wrong
This is another purpose of bogus fees. They are outside the contracted price, so allowing the carrier to change the price of service during the term of the contract.
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MrMoody
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Re: customer service woes because {fill in here}
said by jgkolt :They had horrible customer service before the merger. the merger was just the largest recent action they can blame it on. You got that right. Nextel customer service was much better before Sprint bought them.
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jgkolt
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| It is a failed merger. They should cut their losses and do this. Get new phones for every nextel subscriber within the first year of integration. Power down the nextel sites, and sell off the technology. Why up your operating costs and continue to lose subscribers. They went WAY too slowly to integrate them together and they are feeling the pain. They wanted the business users so why didnt they get the subscribers? they could sell of the technology, consolidate, finance the needed build out to cover nextel areas not in sprints network and subsidize the sprint phones. this also assumes that there are comparable phones on sprints network that want. what do you guys think.
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