matrix3D
join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT | Great... what will be the catch?
Great... so I guess this means you'll be able to run up that $1,000+ data bill in a fraction of a second instead of it taking an hour or so. |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | ruh roh....Spent isn't looking so good right now.
Finally two heavyweights are going to the same technology....is WiMAX the iDEN of the future? It is starting to look that way! |
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11 |  Well well well
Looks like Qualcom will loose some of their yearly tribute. About time cell services providers wake up and ditch Qualcom !
Adi |
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BillRoland
Premium
join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
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Re: ruh roh....Spent isn't looking so good right now.
said by inteller  :Finally two heavyweights are going to the same technology....is WiMAX the iDEN of the future? It is starting to look that way! Looks more like CDMA is the iDEN of the future.
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mindfrost82
join:2003-04-19
Cortland, IL
| Build Out 3G First
I can't believe all the talk about 4G, between Sprint and WiMAX and VZW and AT&T using LTE. None of them offer nationwide 3G yet. They all offer 1X (or EDGE) on their nationwide network. Sprint by far has more EVDO/3G coverage than any other carrier, but its still far from being nationwide.
Is this what its going to be like in the future? Unless you live in a major market, you're screwed for getting these kinds of speeds. I'm lucky that Sprint offers good EVDO coverage in my area, considering I'm not really near a major city (about 1.5-2 hours west of Chicago). AT&T and VZW don't offer 3G here yet, and I'm not looking for them to.
I'm sure they're not going to offer 4G in areas that don't even have 3G yet, so there is no point to this debate for a lot of people.
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17 | Spectrum?
Am surprised to see Verizon make a committed selection before the 700mhz auction. If they don't win much 700mhz spectrum, I wonder where they'll use LTE? |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
1 edit | reply to mindfrost82
Re: Build Out 3G First
said by mindfrost82 : Sprint by far has more EVDO/3G coverage than any other carrier, but its still far from being nationwide. Sprint plans to hit 230m population coverage by end of this year - the voice network is about 255-260m. They may have near 100% network converted next year as even the affiliates like iPCS are adding EVDO.
Sprint also roams on Alltel EVDO while Verizon does not, which does put Sprint way ahead of everyone else in 3G coverage. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to matrix3D
Re: Great... what will be the catch?
That means Verizon Wireless will converge with the rest of the world on technology, using LTE, which is a 3GSM proposed path.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to BillRoland
Re: ruh roh....Spent isn't looking so good right now.
That would make iDEN the AMPS of the future
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to xenophon
Re: Build Out 3G First
That's paritally because Sprint's own network is much smaller than anyone elses, and has less to upgrade.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
 ·North State Commun..
1 edit | Interesting
So Verizon announces they are going to open their CDMA network to any provider/device ... then 3 days later announce plans to migrate away from CDMA to GSM?
Anyone see the irony in that?
EDIT:
Actually, now that I think about it, it's a brilliant business move. It will add an additional revenue stream to help build out the GSM network, it will provide Verizon with a revenue stream on the established, but agd, CDMA network for YEARS to come, while they can build their new GSM (ahem, closed) network and keep everything business as usual.
I think I'll up my investment in them.
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17 | LTE is not GSM, it's W-CDMA. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| said by xenophon :LTE is not GSM, it's W-CDMA. I can be: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_···volution
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
1 edit | reply to en102
Re: Build Out 3G First
said by en102 :That's paritally because Sprint's own network is much smaller than anyone elses, and has less to upgrade. Completely wrong. Sprint has over 30,000 CDMA cellsites and >45K total sites (including iDen). Verizon has under 30K sites. Both cover about 255-260m population with voice. Sprint's CDMA/iDen total footprint is about 268m, much larger than Verizon's.
You may have missed the memo but Sprint has been adding CDMA to thousands of Nextel iDen sites the last couple of years. |
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slash
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-01
Boston
clubs: | reply to Matt
Re: Interesting
LTE is not GSM.
LTE is not CDMA
LTE is a new technology.
Nothing says that Verizon will use this for voice communications. All of the talk so far has been for data...nobody seems to be picking up on that. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| said by slash :LTE is not GSM. LTE is not CDMA LTE is a new technology. Nothing says that Verizon will use this for voice communications. All of the talk so far has been for data...nobody seems to be picking up on that. You think they're going to continue to send voice and data separate?
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slash
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-01
Boston
clubs: | Not sure. I don't think you can completely rule it out. |
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CaptainRR
Premium
join:2006-04-21
Blue Rock, OH | reply to xenophon
Re: Build Out 3G First
Don't forget it takes 4 PCS cell sites to cover the same ground that 1 cellular cell covers! |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
3 edits | True for voice, but for data, 800mhz needs more cellsites too in many situations. In reality, 800mhz is not covering as much ground as it is spec'd to as it depends on tower output actually used, but it does penetrate buildings better.
Problem with data over 800mhz covering an area 4x larger is that it has the potential to have 4X number of users than multiple 1900mhz sites covering same area. There still needs to be many 800mhz sites for capacity reasons.
This may explain why Sprint EVDO performance and latency is a little better than Verizon's. |
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slash
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-01
Boston
clubs:
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Re: Interesting
said by xenophon :LTE is not GSM, it's W-CDMA. LTE is not W-CDMA. It's OFDMA. |
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