bjl
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join:2002-05-02
Newport Beach, CA | right
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| Force?
Does this mean AT&T will terminate your DSL service if you cancel your AT&T wireless service?
If that isn't the case, then AT&T should be applauded for some forward thinking. Landlines are not as popular as they used to be, and they are no longer the cash cow that the telegraph company could always count on. Giving people incentives to bundle wireless and DSL and receive a discount on both in the process will ultimately benefit consumers.
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| said by pnh102  :Does this mean AT&T will terminate your DSL service if you cancel your AT&T wireless service? If that isn't the case, then AT&T should be applauded for some forward thinking. Landlines are not as popular as they used to be, and they are no longer the cash cow that the telegraph company could always count on. Giving people incentives to bundle wireless and DSL and receive a discount on both in the process will ultimately benefit consumers. They may not allow you to cancel your AT&T wireless service without canceling your DSL service. |
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jamez818
please hold during the silence
join:2000-09-18
Sunland, CA
 ·EarthLink
|  Provisioning
My concern is how are they going to provision dry loop DSL? If your canceling your LAN line and keeping only the DSL I can see how that will work, your not changing your loop. But lets just say you order a new dry loop DSL line, how will you know its yours or even if its on? I wonder if a tech dispatch will be necessary for all dry loop DSL.
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jamez818
please hold during the silence
join:2000-09-18
Sunland, CA | reply to Rob
Re: Force?
Most wireless plans are for a year or two so i guess the DSL would also be under those terms. |
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Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Brooklyn, NY | reply to pnh102
They will double your DSL bill |
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | Naked DSL is not new either...
Back when I got DSL in 2000/2001 it was the ONLY way to get DSL and I still have it. |
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viperlmw
Premium
join:2005-01-25
·Qwest.net
| reply to jamez818
Re: Provisioning
No tech dispatch is necessary for stand-alone DSL. You just don't have a dial tone, or the -48v dc battery. The DSL signal is in the millivolt range, so you may not know it's there, but your modem does. Just plug it in (no filters!) and it will sync up. |
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dogo88
join:2001-09-24
Old Bridge, NJ | same lame comment
Same lame comment as cable who claims in their ads that "their entire network is fiber". Not the drops to the houses in my area. Just a delay tactic. |
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
1 edit | Some Ct. residents are reporting
that they are getting dry loop 1.5Mb dsl for 23.99..without this wireless tie in apparently.
Assuming that's what's happening..it's good to see AT&T making a move on this. And, it's really something they can capitalize on I think. While they're losing landlines left and right, these fees can serve to be a replacement for that.
And, these lower tier speeds for lower prices are still very much in demand by many who don't want to pay the higher prices that comcast charges. If there's one big failure within comcast, it's their refusal to come down and compete at these lower tier levels as well.
They do have a 384k tier for 24.95 here in my market, but can anyone say Big whoop about that?
Other than that.it's right off to the mid 40.00 level.
Cox, to their credit..and other cable co's don't do that.
It's time for Comcast to wake up to the fact that not everyone wants to pay this much for a connection, nor needs the associated speeds.
In the meantime..it's a real opportunity for AT&T I think.
If they drop the landline requirement, they could pick up quite a few customers I think.
Anyways..I don't think this 60.00 issue is cast in stone..judging by the Ct. AT&T forum.
Those who just want dry DSL should maybe call and see if you can get the same as Ct. people are reporting they're getting which is dry 1.5Mb DSL for 23.99 and dry 3.0 service for 28.99.
»[info] Dry Loop Express DSL 1.5mb for $23.99?? |
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jamez818
please hold during the silence
join:2000-09-18
Sunland, CA | reply to viperlmw
Re: Provisioning
Maybe they should give you a temp number just until you get your service established. Something like a 555-1212 number and then disconnect it. Just a thought. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to viperlmw
AT&T is not doing it that way. You get a dialtone. It just can't dial out.
ADSL without a circuit ID or sealing current is an invitation to problems down the line |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| morals of big business
this is certainly no surprise, but just one more example that big business will say anything (and sometimes do anything) if it lets them continue to make more money than they otherwise would.
Normally, I would expect them to say "we don't want to offer dry DSL, we aren't required to offer it, so we're not going to do it", but for a long time it was politically expedient to pretend that "people don't want it" or "the lines will rot" or the other excuses they have trotted out.
all to keep from admitting there isn't any significant competition and they don't have to respond to customer demand. It appears the reason they are relenting now is that so many younger people, that only use cell for phone, are now coming into the market (graduating, getting their own place) that they run the risk of alienating a significant number of their future demographic. |
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CConverse
join:2006-01-31
Syracuse, NY
| You can't turn the Titanic on a dime
It's a step in the right direction, at least. It's a pretty reasonable price for what you get, and given people are dropping their landlines to go with cellphones in droves, it's a good alternative to offer customers who are dropping all their services to go with a cellphone and the cable company. Yes, it's still forced bundling, but it will probably work a lot better for at&t than the landline/dsl bundling is now.
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to nasadude
Re: morals of big business
Show me a market that doesn't bend to customer demand over time. Of course the telcos will offer dry loops for Internet access, they just waited until they felt the "need" to do so. |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | yes. translation: landline losses so great that they were practically forced to offer it or sink faster. good business move. |
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Cyber2lz
join:2001-11-15
Odessa, FL
| The only way.....
that you can get these id10t's attention is through their pocket book. The only thing they understand is revenue.
Sadly, most of corporate America is just like this.
And now we are suupose to trust the DeathStar?????
Yea, Okay !!!
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to Tomek
Re: Force?
Give me a break!
AT&t is fooling no one when they attempt to come across as a "friendlier carrier" as they trying here. Stephenson is full of shit, you know it and I know it!
At&t will tack on surcharges, recovery fees, etc., etc., to make up for perceived missed landline revenue. The network as a whole will survive...always could, always will!
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Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
| reply to bjl
Re: right
So AT&T thinks $60 a month is a deal for 1.5mbit and crappy 450min wireless?
For a combined $62 a month I get:
5mbit cable modem service from Charter ($32/month)
500minutes, unlimited txts/data/pics, 7pm n&w, Sprint SERO ($30/month)
Keep trying Mr Deathstar! |
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AustinTX78759
@rr.com | They do offer naked DSL in Austin, Texas
I just got an offer for naked DSL here in Austin about two weeks ago. If I remember correctly, the offer was only good for Austin, Texas and one other city not in Texas. |
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