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Comments on news posted 2007-06-06 14:15:16: Last year AOL and Yahoo implemented a new spam protection model (Goodmail's CertifiedEmail) that allowed "legit" spammers to pay a fee in order to bypass their spam filters and reach customers. ..

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dadkins
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"Legit Spammer"?

Uhm... WTF is a "Legit Spammer"?

Panda?


MrMoody
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Filters

The ISPs can pass these Certified emails through their filters, but all the certificate ("blue seal") will accomplish is to give me an easy way to catch them in MY filters. Anyone sending truly legitimate bulk messages like bill notifications etc., would be stupid to pay for this.


Sr Tech
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reply to dadkins
Re: "Legit Spammer"?

Today It's all about the money!!

ke4pym

join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC
Of course

you could always choose to not use the ISP's email system.


Vertickle

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Madison, AL

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Nevermind

Ammler
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reply to dadkins
Re: "Legit Spammer"?

This is why I shy away from any website that I have to "register" to use. Once they get your address, they abuse it.

And if I still "have" to use it, they get either my Yahoo or Gmail address so all the junk that I don't look at goes there.


Mactron
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 A solution ?

This is a solution to Spam ?
What am I not seeing here ?


ColorBASIC
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 Give the fee to the customers being spammed

This simply makes the ISPs themselves spammers since they're basically conspiring to spam their own customers and stand to make a handsome some doing it.
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jgkolt
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bad bad bad

i can see certs for email to tell who it is coming from but this is just another revenue stream for big business. NOT a way to deter spam.
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wrad

join:2003-09-11
Fort Pierce, FL
reply to MrMoody
Re: Filters

What is the easiest way to filter using Outlook Express?

Thanks,

Ward


KrK
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Why do I get the feeling....

... That these "Service Providers" will wall you off from receiving your legit email unless they extort a fee from them?

I'm all for stopping SPAM. I'm 100% against my "Service Provider" charging a fee for people to "access" me.


TKJunkMail
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reply to Mactron
Re: A solution ?

said by Mactron See Profile :

This is a solution to Spam ?
What am I not seeing here ?
It isn't a solution to spam. It is to make sure that large companies can guarantee their marketing messages aren't treated as spam by the ISP's that contract with the Goodmail service. That way, they know, for a price, that their messages aren't caught up by the ISP's spam filters.
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reply to dadkins
Re: "Legit Spammer"?

They call it "opt in", but apparently this refers to the email provider, not their users, choosing to join. The approved senders comply with some rules (they're identified, and no phishing); in exchange they get through the spam filters; and the users see a special symbol that's supposed to promote trust of the sender.

There was mention also that images and scripts would be "guaranteed" to reach recipients too (presumably referring to webmail interface) - so apparently it will overrule users' options to turn off remote images, thereby giving senders verification that the addressee saw the email.

That's what "legit spammer" means. A more truthful term for it is "selling the customers to marketers".


nixen
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All Listed are Connectivity Providers

Perhaps this is just their way of ensuring that "content providers" are paying to use "their" pipes and not getting a free ride?
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jjoshua
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Gmail. I'm done.

Excellent spam filtering, good UI, lots of space, no BS.


John Galt
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said by jjoshua See Profile :

Gmail. I'm done.

Excellent spam filtering, good UI, lots of space, no BS.
Agree.
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Eric Martin

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2nd Gmail....... Look at all the evil capitalist companies!

Yahoo and Aol are dying out!

The cable & phone companies are F-ing evil and hate the internet.

GMAIL! Anyone know any other great email sites?

MeKuN

join:2004-07-21
Eugene, OR
reply to jjoshua
Re: Gmail

I have multi yahoo accounts for crap; I use gmail for private.
Gmail gets no spam, only because i use it for receiving mail from just people i know not signing up on some bulletin board.


MakeTHEMpayNOW

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The only good Spammer is a DEAD Spammer !

There is no such thing as a "legitimate Spammer".

All who Spam should be castrated with a cattle branding iron, beat about the head and body with a 2 x 4 for a week, hung by their thumbs for a month, then thrown in solitary confinement for the rest of their worthless life or publicly stoned.

CMoore2004
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reply to Eric Martin
Re: 2nd Gmail....... Look at all the evil capitalist companies!

Windows Live Mail hosts the mail for my domain. Along with Windows Live Mail Desktop, this is by far the best solution for mail for me. Login via the web or with the desktop program... doesn't matter, it's all synchronized.
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