ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
|  Great work Karl!
Know you have been working on this for a while. Lots of good info, like there are some poor suckers paying $85 for TWC Extreme service. Ouch.
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rogue_
I Have A Secret Window
Premium
join:2001-10-17
Lake Hiawatha, NJ | OOL ?
Cablevision? |
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T1 Rocky
join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX
 ·Time Warner Cable
| $15 dsl with forced bundling
The cheapest you can get dsl for is $55 per month because they require you to get a phone line and then you have to sign up for 3 features on the calling plan plus long distance + taxes + muni fees etc. So I've always objected to them advertising $15 dsl. That doesn't exist.
Great research though. Thanks for putting it together. |
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MadMANN
Premium
join:2005-08-19
·Comcast
| reply to ColorBASIC
Re: Great work Karl!
said by ColorBASIC  :Know you have been working on this for a while. Lots of good info. . . I have to agree. |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | reply to T1 Rocky
Re: $15 dsl with forced bundling
He noted that VZ does naked DSL in some areas for $5 more. |
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Turbocpe
Premium
join:2001-12-22
IA | Statement
quote:
All DSL speeds are "up to" best effort...
I don't think that applies to DSL speeds only, like that statement sort of suggests, but applies to cable as well. |
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pb5k
more cowbell
Premium
join:2005-11-16
Glendale, AZ
·Cox HSI
| I agree, any residential broadband is considered by the provider to be "best effort", though that's not what they emphasize in their advertising. 
If there is a residential provider that guarantees a level of service, I'd like to know who they are.
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Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH | reply to rogue_
Re: OOL ?
Cablevision is only available in one, small region. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Turbocpe
Re: Statement
quote:
I don't think that applies to DSL speeds only, like that statement sort of suggests, but applies to cable as well.
But with DSL it has a different meaning. SBC/AT&T, in particular, advertises "up to" speed tiers that you may be able to order but not necessarily acheive the top end of due to line conditions.
In other words, on DSL you might order "Up To 1.5mbps" and end up with a 768kbps sync rate that you can never exceed because you are too far from the CO or RT. Cable doesn't have this limitation so it does not apply. Either you get full service or you don't.
This is different from the other part of "best effort" speeds which do apply to all internet providers, which includes protocol overhead, oversold bandwidth, and general networking stuff that takes away from acheiving maximum theoretical throughput.
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kelso
join:2007-04-06
Ashburn, VA | Rate Difference
Currently in Ashburn Va, the Comcast Economy Tier is 24.95 bundled not 29.95 listed in the article. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Great Job Karl!
Great Job Karl! 
*I* have Standard Cable TV and HSI from Comcast.
I pay the Extra $10.00 per month for speed.
Comcast HSI with *ANY* TV service is $42.95 per month.
+ $10.00 per month for speed makes it $52.95 per month.
Modem rental adds $3.00 per month(I own my modem).
My speeds are rated at 8000kbps/768kbps.
Actual speeds are 8600kbps/724kbps.
PowerBoost is not accounted for in this post because it doesn't last, and it only affects the first part of large downloads and uploads.
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | reply to kelso
Re: Rate Difference
Added... |
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Turbocpe
Premium
join:2001-12-22
IA
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Re: Statement
I now can see that point, but not sure if it generally is seen that way. Personally that is not how I read the statement as, and I have DSL and cable service myself.
In my case, with Qwest, the qualifier webpage appears to do a fairly good job of telling you what speeds your address or phone number can qualify for. I've heard many times where the local technicians, if possible, will see that you get that speed you signed up for if it's easily within their control. |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to T1 Rocky
Re: $15 dsl with forced bundling
not true ! round these parts any way. my grandmother has verizon dsl for $15 and pays $13 for local only line, doesn't require anything else.
I ordered it for her about 9 months ago, so I should know the price.
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jessegr
join:2005-03-05
Gatineau, QC | Canadian
Canadian Version |
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mglunt
join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA
1 edit | reply to ColorBASIC
Re: Great work Karl!
Forgot to mention the $12-$15 that companies like Comcast charge for not having TV. $12-$15 more AND they give you a slower speed. |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
1 edit | reply to BosstonesOwn
Re: $15 dsl with forced bundling
No interstate subscriber line charge? Here that is $6 on top of the $10 basic POTS line. Plus USF, plus 9-1-1 and a few other smaller fees. Here the cheapest Verizon line is about $20 after all the fees and taxes.
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
2 edits | reply to mglunt
Re: Great work Karl!
Yep, that's the "How dare you not have our crappy CATV?!?" fee. When I had ATTBi which didn't have the fee, I saw a 30% price increase when Comcast took over because of the fee. When Time Warner took over, their "penalty" is $5 on top of the service being cheaper (and no monthly usage caps enforced). Comcast fanboys would say it's a bundling discount, but the penalty doesn't work the other way. You don't get a CATV penalty when you don't have HSI.
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nirvansk815
Premium
join:2001-06-18
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
clubs: | Great Idea
Thanks Carl... this is something I would love to see updated every month! Great idea.
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drslash
Goya Asma
Premium
join:2002-02-18
Marion, IA
| Mediacom
Great article Karl! Thumbs up!
Mediacom prices vary by market. These are my prices.
Standard 8Mbps/512kbps : $44.95-$54.95
VIP(triple play) 10Mbps/1Mbps : $44.95-$54.95
OnlineMax: 15Mbps/1Mbps : $59.95-$69.95
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