Drakemoore
join:2005-02-03
Hawthorne, FL
| Ummn.. right.
Deployment and adoption of high-speed Internet service in the U.S. is a success story that shouldn’t be portrayed as a failure because of misleading statistics -- Cable’s broadband service is available to at least 94 percent of all U.S. homes, McSlarrow pointed out. At the same time that broadband availability has increased, McSlarrow said, the speed of the service also has jumped while prices have declined."
94 Percent, Yeah right >.>
All raise their hand who thinks that's a load of crap
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ | /me raises hand
Furthermore, since when did Fred Upton have a comedy act?  |
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Cabal
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join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA
| "Because we can't even agree there's a problem"
Well, at least I agree with something in these multiple articles. Can someone tell me again why we're expecting companies to roll out services and infrastructure to areas that will never even pay off the cost of that infrastructure in our lifetimes?
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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1 edit | reply to TScheisskopf
Re: Ummn.. right.
Hell the line about the prices going down and speed going up had me laughing more then the episode of seinfeld when kramer takes the school bus and converts it to a tour bus.
Funny fella right there. These folks should start a saturday night live clone tv show. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
|  Amazing Cluelessness
Why do people continue to insist that the same government which legalized spam with the CAN-SPAM act, and is about to legalize spyware in the same manner, among other things, is in any way, shape or form able to "manage" our broadband.
If people want a guarantee that the best broadband we will ever get is a half working dialup connection on a good day, once a month, then by all means, pass a national broadband policy.
For some people to continue to insist that the government is the answer to every perceived problem even though we know of the government's track record in this department, is a textbook illustration of insanity.
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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Re: "Because we can't even agree there's a problem"
said by Cabal  :Well, at least I agree with something in these multiple articles. Can someone tell me again why we're expecting companies to roll out services and infrastructure to areas that will never even pay off the cost of that infrastructure in our lifetimes? Those who want this BB policy expect the taxpayers to pay for broadband to every little rural whistle stop and farmhouse, and damn the cost. In other words, become more of a socialist country than we already are.
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
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| This would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. A national broadband policy? You gotta be shitting me. The only way the U.S. will see such a beast is if the telcos give the OK to their well paid errand boy at the FCC and the whores in Congre$$ get something extra in their campaign coffers. Otherwise, you can forget about any kind of policy, least of all, one that benefits consumers. |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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Re: "Because we can't even agree there's a problem"
said by TKJunkMail :said by Cabal :Well, at least I agree with something in these multiple articles. Can someone tell me again why we're expecting companies to roll out services and infrastructure to areas that will never even pay off the cost of that infrastructure in our lifetimes? Those who want this BB policy expect the taxpayers to pay for broadband to every little rural whistle stop and farmhouse, and damn the cost. In other words, become more of a socialist country than we already are. Mine as well be more socialist.
I mean really we have so many problems not addressed at this point whats one more in the pot.
Why can't we take the usf slush fund and actually use it for something other then letting the companies dip in to make their bottom line look better.
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garmst
join:2000-09-17
New York, NY
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| BLAH - BLAH!
Virtually the only complaints I hear about BB availability are in this site. I have only heard about two complaints about BB speed or availability in many years. One was when my sister switched from Adelphia to Verizon to save money (she could have switched back if she really wanted to). Another was a friend in New Mexico who was outside the city and she got satellite (while not wonderful she still got access).
We do need more competition, and it certainly seems to be in the pipeline. The market and some reasonable GOV/FCC actions(and some inaction?) will hopefully allow this in the end. |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
2 edits | Priorities people
F a BB policy...how about a traffic policy or energy policy. There are so many other issues that impact quality of life far more than someone not being able to get low latency broadband. The gov't needs to quit wasting time an money worrying about BS like this.
For those without BB, tough. Move. Everyone when chosing their place to live has many considerations. For me it was closeness to work, schools, shopping, freeways, crime rate and BROADBAND AVAILABILITY.
Whining about not having low latency broadband (since virtually EVERYONE can get sat BB) is like moving next to the airport THEN bitching about the traffic and noise. |
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sparks
join:2001-07-08
Little Rock, AR
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Re: This would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic
everything is the old mighty buck.
The cable and bells buy a senator and tell them what to say and what to think.
We are the highest price and lowest speeds in the world.
BUT we are told that we are the best, of course we are, now remember senator (fill in name) the money we gave you was to educate you on the problems of the consumer and to look the other way when we do this or that.
HELL in this country replace cable and bells with ANY company.
its a shame really but the stupid americans just sit and take it...why I am watching the game I don't have time to think...thats what my elected officials do for me. |
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wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| reply to ColorBASIC
Re: Priorities people
Here's an idea. Put your money where your mouth is. Don't want to hear about problems with broadband, then move your ignorant ass off of a broadband forum, and go to an energy forum instead. Seriously, WTF is in your address bar, and why are you surprised?
Who said anything about low latency? We're talking about penetration, speed, and fair competition. Not the current profit saving stranglehold that is in place today. |
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
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Re: BLAH - BLAH!
said by garmst :Virtually the only complaints I hear about BB availability are in this site. Apparently you must lead a very sheltered life if you haven't bothered to look beyond this site for broadband complaints.
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jytr
join:2005-02-03
Cliffwood, NJ | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: "Because we can't even agree there's a problem"
Socialism for the wealthy and capitalism for the rest of us.
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johnh123
join:2002-11-19
Chicago, IL
| reply to sparks
Re: This would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic
said by sparks :We are the highest price and lowest speeds in the world. Lowest speeds? I don't think so. Check out the stats on speedtest.net |
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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Stepford, CA
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| said by johnh123 :Lowest speeds? I don't think so. Check out the stats on speedtest.net Don't be so selectively obtuse. The lowest speed compared to other countries. 
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scrummie02
Bentley
join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
1 edit | reply to pnh102
Re: Amazing Cluelessness
People that also complain the same government that wants to tap our lines and listen to us should also be the same ones that lay down and manage broadband we well.
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scrummie02
Bentley
join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
| reply to major marco
Re: BLAH - BLAH!
amazingly the first few hits are about UK or Australian providers or older complaints...thus corroborating what he said.
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marigolds
Gainfully employed, finally
Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-13
Saint Louis, MO
| reply to pnh102
Re: Amazing Cluelessness
The problem here is that the market is clearly not able to achieve the goals being set out.
There is no information transparency. There is poor accounting of benefits. There are rapidly developing monopoly situations. The market failures in the broadband market are all over the place.
Hence, this is a situation that calls for government intervention to solve. Right now though, we clearly suffer a rational ignorance failure (as this article demonstrates well), as well as heavy rent seeking and a short time horizon (see how many times complaints appear in this thread about recouping infrastructure costs in rural areas over a long time frame). The government failures are so clear it is almost laughable. We need to have government intervention against the market failures (and only against the market failures), clear legislative rational ignorance through non-governmental research support, push to eliminate rent seeking by regulated entities (all regulated entities), and most importantly extend our broadband deployment cost recovering time frame across multiple lifetimes.
If we do that, the issue will be solved and solved for a fraction of the cost of electric and phone deployment.
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to Cabal
Re: "Because we can't even agree there's a problem"
Bah. We don't need to do anything. Just ask the NCTA. They say only 6% of the country is not wired for cable broadband right now!
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