pnh102
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If these websites do not play any music owned by RIAA member labels, would they be off the hook from paying these royalties?
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hescominsoon
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Brunswick, MD | yes..if the content is not licensed by the loons then there's no royalties. |
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brianiscool
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Miami, FL | reply to pnh102
Yeah, but who would want to listen to your radio station? lol |
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pnh102
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| said by brianiscool  :Yeah, but who would want to listen to your radio station? lol There are plenty of other formats besides music which a for-profit online radio station could consider. Or, if the previous poster is correct about the RIAA member companies not having jurisdiction over material owned by non-RIAA members, they could simply play that instead. Of course, that implies that each station would need to make some sort of arrangements with the owners of that material instead.
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Maxo
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said by brianiscool :Yeah, but who would want to listen to your radio station? lol Most of the good music being produced today is not on RIAA contract. |
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TKJunkMail
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Unless Congress does something, all the little music streamers are going to be gone. Only those internet radio stations with large ad income like Rhapsody, AOL, etc will survive. Most people won't care. And that is why the chance of passing a law in Congress is slim.
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Maxo
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| said by TKJunkMail :Unless Congress does something, all the little music streamers are going to be gone. Only those internet radio stations with large ad income like Rhapsody, AOL, etc will survive. Most people won't care. And that is why the chance of passing a law in Congress is slim. And, this is exactly why this new rate hike is being proposed. This is how the RIAA wants it.
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pnh102
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said by TKJunkMail :And that is why the chance of passing a law in Congress is slim. Not only that, but the RIAA member companies (though not the RIAA itself) are more politically aligned with the Democrat party than the Republican party.
»opensecrets.org/industries/contr···cle=2006
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Re: Can Decision Be Bypassed?
said by Maxo :said by brianiscool :Yeah, but who would want to listen to your radio station? lol Most of the good music being produced today is not on RIAA contract. There is good music being produced today?
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Kearnstd
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well they basicly have four choices.
go off the air
stay on the air and get cashraped by the Record Mafia
Stay on the air and give the RIAA the finger.
goto another country, stay on the air and give the RIAA the finger.
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pnh102
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| said by Kearnstd :goto another country, stay on the air and give the RIAA the finger. Gee thanks... now I can't get the song "Mexican Radio" out of my head... I guess I owe the RIAA a million bucks 
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I guess I'll have to find a new hobby. No way I'll be able to afford those new rates. We didn't present a big enough argument? If thousands upon thousands of signatures, letters, petitioning, demonstrations, letters to congress, ect. isn't enough than I'm not sure what this country is becoming of. So much for freedom of expression.
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Re: Can Decision Be Bypassed?
only if you stream your head to one listener will it be as cheap as a million bucks.
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said by pnh102 :Gee thanks... now I can't get the song "Mexican Radio" out of my head... I guess I owe the RIAA a million bucks Just have some barbecue iguana. You'll be okay.
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pnh102
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| said by tapeloop :Just have some barbecue iguana. You'll be okay. Dude... that's just SICK!
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| Bad business decision
that effectively closes a source of income for the RIAA, however meager they may think it is now. It's not like webcasters weren't willing to pay them. And this deal only makes sense if the goal is to encourage maximum media concentration.
As always, the market demand for this will be met regardless. Unfortunately now it will either be illegal, or outside the US. |
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Jehu
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1) at least the rates won't be retroactive so no new money owed.
2) although this was likely a no win situation, based on the judges comments, it sounds like the movign parties did a shitty job of bringing new beef to the table... judges don't like that.
3) again, webcasting is being given a kick to the nuts... a subtle signal to move on. Unfortunate, but time to consolidate for get the heck out.
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Re: Congress only hope for marginal music streamers
Overall, but the RIAA clearly gave more to the Republicks than the Dems. That does not go unnoticed amongst those who were writing the laws and moving them to the floor for voting.
And the sobriquet "Republicks" is clearly as acceptable as "Democrat Party", since the proper and legal name is "Democratic Party". |
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Hi, it's Tim from Pandora,
I'm writing today to ask for your help. The survival of Pandora and all of Internet radio is in jeopardy because of a recent decision by the Copyright Royalty Board in Washington, DC to almost triple the licensing fees for Internet radio sites like Pandora. The new royalty rates are irrationally high, more than four times what satellite radio pays and broadcast radio doesn't pay these at all. Left unchanged, these new royalties will kill every Internet radio site, including Pandora.
In response to these new and unfair fees, we have formed the SaveNetRadio Coalition, a group that includes listeners, artists, labels and webcasters. I hope that you will consider joining us.
Please sign our petition urging your Congressional representative to act to save Internet radio: »capwiz.com/saveinternetradio/iss···=9631541
Please feel free to forward this link/email to your friends - the more petitioners we can get, the better.
Understand that we are fully supportive of paying royalties to the artists whose music we play, and have done so since our inception. As a former touring musician myself, I'm no stranger to the challenges facing working musicians. The issue we have with the recent ruling is that it puts the cost of streaming far out of the range of ANY webcaster's business potential.
I hope you'll take just a few minutes to sign our petition - it WILL make a difference. As a young industry, we do not have the lobbying power of the RIAA. You, our listeners, are by far our biggest and most influential allies.
As always, and now more than ever, thank you for your support.
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