Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| Private Groups Pointless
Private groups/torrent sites are pretty pointless. Look, if you can get in, don't you think the investigators can? Even if it includes uploading a certain amount of illegal material. I imagine that's partly why this work is contracted out.
Reminds me of the days of private BBS's. They were just as pointless back then too.
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CrazyFingers
join:2003-10-01
Columbia, MO
| This is of course the best solution.
Obviously, it would be an utter waste of time to re-focus all the energy and money on finding a solution or a product delivery mechanism that would convince the majority of people to pay for their content.
I mean, "changing your business model to address the desires of your customers"?
That's just nuts.
No no, creating an entire secondary industry devoted to playing intertube 007 is obviously the best course of action.
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | only grab torrents from reputable releasers
as long as you stick to the tried and true release groups, you are ok. Polluters wont work because they get found out to quickly. |
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insomx
Premium
join:2003-01-26
Canada | NO
Simple answer - NO |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| Uhh, 97%?
97% of a movie is quite likely watchable, unless they've been careful selecting the parts to remove. And since these disruption companies are authorized to distribute the content, they've just released 97% of it to the world at large absolutely legally... |
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs:
| Exactly, they are just as liable as people being sued by the RIAA or MPAA for using Bit Torrent. When you use bit torrent you are only sharing certain parts. Unless you keep seeding for over a month, it's highly doubtful that you supplied the ENTIRE file to an individual.
You can't fight fire with fire. |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH | In other words...
You are saying that, had you had legal competition, you would (most likely illegally) be drowning out the competition just to try to make your sad product look better? What a lame excuse. |
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slowdownmaybe
@verizon.net
| stop it, NOPE
think about it.. if someone is determined to get the content, the best anti-p2p measures can do is SLOW IT DOWN.. not stop the intent to distribute and or receive the content.
Plain and simple.
Copyright holders have a vested interest in slowing down alleged illegal distribution of NEW content because it ERODES the market value of said works.. ie the HIGH RELEASE price of a new piece of copyrighted material degrades in value (for the most part) until it is either reissued, gained cult status amongst viewers, or discarded for the walmart discount cd/dvd bin ($1-5 rack)
Now if people pay $15-300 a month for internet, they want ALL YOU CAN EAT for free, regardle$$ of individual value.. so, either accommodate this market or get run over by so-called pirate p2p networks!
P2P file traders aren't the napster kiddies of the past, these are internet savvy people and will stop at NOTHING to get the tasty "0"'s and "1"'s floating out there...
E-Nuff said!
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
| reply to russotto
Re: Uhh, 97%?
I would have to agree, 97% of pretty much anything but a compressed file is pretty much readable. In terms of a movie that would be what? Everything but the credits?
Nice going. You're trying to hinder downloading but uploading everything but the credits to the people who made the film in the first place. |
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Jameson
10-8
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join:2004-05-28
Fallbrook, CA
clubs:  | Stopping bittorrent
Stopping BitTorrent is such a lost cause. It's to hard to track because of the mass amounts of people doing it.. |
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Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
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join:2003-02-20
Minneapolis, MN
clubs:
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| waste of time
All this is a waste of time if it's on the internet in some form people will find it that goes for more then just bittorrent that also goes for newsgroups, FXP dump sites and private FTPs. If you know who to talk to or where to look you'll find what you are looking for.
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MadMANN
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join:2005-08-19 | Will Polluting BitTorrent Networks Stop Piracy?
Did AIDS stop people from having sex? |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
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join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs: | said by MadMANN  :Did AIDS stop people from having sex? lol |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
 ·Cox VOIP
·Skype
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·AT&T Southeast
·magicjack.com
| reply to Jameson
Re: Stopping bittorrent
Honestly, I could care less. I don't use it. I'm also sick of hearing about it.
"People are putting fake files on Bittorent. Oh, the tragedy. I spent 4 hours downloading Debby does Dallas 18 and I MISSED THE ENDING!!! ARGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!"
Maybe Bittorent should be a daily "news" item. I'm sure the news writers can work on that during their Bittorent downloading waits. 
Now, I do rip a DVD I buy for my Creative Zen. If they want to sue me over that, I believe since I'm only using it for personal uses that is called fair use. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | reply to Matt
Re: Private Groups Pointless
Private Groups Pointless because all it takes is one to infiltrate to bring it all down.
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maartena
Stacked.
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Chiyo
Re: waste of time
said by Chiyo :All this is a waste of time if it's on the internet in some form people will find it that goes for more then just bittorrent that also goes for newsgroups, FXP dump sites and private FTPs. If you know who to talk to or where to look you'll find what you are looking for. Back in the day.... BEFORE napster or p2p ever came around.... Everyone I knew in the neighbourhood (we had cable internet in 1996) had their own FTP sites using an early version of Serv-U or even Linux, and you would just browse through each individual site to see if there was anything there you liked.... I had 15, maybe 20 sites to choose from on a daily basis, all running on cable modems in the neighbourhood.
Another big thing that happened in 1997 through just about 2000 or so was CD trading. In 1997 the CD burner had finally became affordable, and people were starting to trade games, software, music cd's etc between school friends and collegues. I just started working in the IT industry back then, and since CD's were still about $3 a pop back then we would trade stuff.... you give me this, I give you that. It wasn't until about 2000 that P2P got so mainstream there really was no point in trading CD's anymore.
When I was a teenager in the 80ties, I had a commodore 64. We would organize "copy days" where about 5 or 6 of us would come together in someone's house and connect C-64's to all TV's - including the portables we brought along - and then spend all day copying games that others had and you didn't.
People can ALWAYS go back to that circuit of building their own FTP sites between a circle of friends, or by trading CD's with each other.
Piracy has been around since monks have been copying books in the middle ages. You really think all those 8-track tapes our boys in Vietnam listened to were all originals? Hell, there was a business of getting EMPTY 8-track tapes to vietnam because they were dubbing them in every army camp across the jungle. Haven't we all dubbed tapes, copied music cd's from friends, or VCR tapes for that matter?
Those who think that "piracy will end" have absolutely no clue. If the Internet were to be abolished tomorrow, people will have started trading CD's again at school and the workplace by next week.
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kaila
join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL
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| I think if they really wanted to give legitimate products...
"more traction", they shouldn't be hostile to technology and be a little more like EMI. High quality, no DRM and reasonable pricing will ensure more money for everyone.
This is what happens when you ignore market demands, and playing these silly torrent pollution games won't make it go away. Although I'm sure it has made Media Defender quite a bit of money! |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs: | reply to dvd536
Re: Private Groups Pointless
Or are yall just jealous your not part of these "private groups" ? |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| Legal Issue ? What about SET now ?
With this "break through" in technology that we can assemble parts from files that may not even be part of the original file , how can they come after you legally for this ? And even if they don't seed the other 3% It can be assembled from other sources !
I can see it now
Kid : "I wasn't part of the uploading [Insert crappy new movie/cd/dvd name here] , I was uploading a torrent of [Insert linux distro name here] "
XXAA Goon : " Yeah right , we got you dead to rights "
Kid : " Dude look on my hard drive "
XXAA Goon 2 : " Oh the kid was telling the truth. "
XXAA Goon : " You think we should stop [Insert XXAA Goon 3's name here] from raping his mother and his father , maybe even pay for the door we kicked in ? "
XXAA Goon : " Nahh he downloaded a ring tone on his phone as a midi they deserve it for being a bad parents "
XXAA Goon : " Come on [Insert XXAA Goon 4 name here] stop kicking his dog , the kids clean "
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BuyAclue
@comcast.net
thumbs down from:
mrchris
| Might not stop Piracy...
...but it sure pisses off the Pirates. |
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