RideRed
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1 edit | Why can't they bury them?
Why can't these be put in a pit with a plate over them? |
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fcisler
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Riverhead, NY
| My yard....PLEASE!
Put one on my front yard!!! C'mon! Who else is going to volunteer?
Afterwards...i'm going to dig a trench, bury some schedule 40 PVC, and then call AT&T to hookup my cross-connect. Mmmm...fiber goodness 
Oh wait....i can't run fiber....hope it's less than 100m from home to AT&T, otherwise i may be stuck on their VDSL  |
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moonpuppy
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Re: Why can they bury them?
said by RideRed  :Why can't these be put in a pit with a plate over them? Cost. Plain and simple. |
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Karl Bode
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Something I read said that technically they can, but the cost is significantly more.... |
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD | Is this Really Eminent Domain?
So AT&T is being granted the right to force a purchase of land from a property owner for use of said property?
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AnonProxy
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| Zoning is the answer
All a town would have to do is pass a local zoning ordinance/by-law, that prohibits said box or requires a lengthy special permitting process. Eminent domain ONLY grants the right to take the land, it does not grant the right of use, when a local authority can "reasonably restrict such use". |
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waynemr
join:2002-01-28
Madison, WI
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Re: My yard....PLEASE!
So you would allow AT&T to put one of those big boxes in your yard, which would drop your property values, potentially make your driveway/street more dangerous from obstructing the view... all so you could get:
- no increase in broadband speed
- no decrease in cost to TV viewing
- just one more option to view 200+ useless channels
Where is the benefit? |
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Techie714
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I find this kind of funny, first we constantly see articles about how the U.S. is WAY behind when it comes to BB. Then you have folks calling there U.S. reps saying dammit bring some type of BB to my neighborhood & do it NOW. Then when AT&T steps up they all say "Ummm, yea we cant have you install that big ugly box can't it just be done magically?". Crazy Americans! |
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mierwins
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Montgomery, IL | Your argument would be good if others weren't already doing it w/o the big ugly boxes. |
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Karl Bode
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I think people have the right to express their opinions on the right way to get the job done -- ex: FTTN & VDSL vs. FTTH....
If you think people are complaining now, wait five years until people realize the deployment limits of these next-gen services. |
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battleop
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Re: Why can't they bury them?
What's wrong with a little landscaping around these boxes? A few shrubs to help blend them into the landscape can't be that cost probative. |
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RideRed
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USA | Because according to some articles they're ending up in people's front yards, like a monolith from 2001. |
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listenup
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Alexandria, VA | reply to AnonProxy
Re: Zoning is the answer
Granted.
Except that in rural areas, where there are no such local zoning requirements - unless they are set/held by county regulations. |
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fcisler
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Riverhead, NY | reply to waynemr
Re: My yard....PLEASE!
Oh...hold on...sorry
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gpidock
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Re: Why can't they bury them?
said by RideRed :Because according to some articles they're ending up in people's front yards, like a monolith from 2001. That's exactly what they look like. They are around my town and I've seen them right in people's front yards in a few places. If they can be placed under ground than AT&T should have to do so. |
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nasadude
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Rockville, MD | reply to pnh102
Re: Is this Really Eminent Domain?
I'm not sure if property owners get compensated; if they are placing the boxes on the easement, prop owners won't get a dime (I don't think). |
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koma3504
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Re: Why can't they bury them?
said by RideRed :Why can't these be put in a pit with a plate over them? said by moonpuppy :said by RideRed :Why can't these be put in a pit with a plate over them? Cost. Plain and simple. As mentioned it's cost.
Not sure on the exact figures but i was told the diffrence is like.
$100,000 for above ground R.T. versus A million to put it underground.
I'll agree underground would help keep the R.T. cooler so it doesnt overheat as easy.
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RideRed
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Even if they don't bury them everywhere, they can same themselves from political grief if they were a bit more sensitive not to the city, but to local residents. Bury it where it may impact the value of people's homes, but don't when they're located on city thoroughfares or commercial properites where the looks don't have quite the stunning impact.
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bigjimc
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Middleboro, MA
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Imagine the boxes being constantly hit by cars and snowplows and my bob cat working on my own private property....
With that nice tall frame it will torque over nicely with a bumper...
Not that I am advocating the destruction of private property... |
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gpidock
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Columbus, OH
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Re: NIMBY
said by Karl Bode :If you think people are complaining now, wait five years until people realize the deployment limits of these next-gen services. I agree. For people to accept these gigantic boxes around the city, residents will have to be convinced that these units can provide something they cannot already get from cable. This does not seem to be the case with AT&T's "next gen" services. |
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