xerxes3642
join:2006-02-24
Saint Charles, MO
 ·Charter Pipeline
| OK so here is the
scenerio then,
I get a of a pirated copy of publisher. I use this copy and become proficient. I'm hired by a company looking to use a layout program. Since I already know it, I suggest publisher over pages or indesign, and the company (who has more money than me) buys several legal copies. Pirates make the working world go round? |
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Boricua65
join:2002-01-26
Puerto Rico
1 edit | Piracy will never end
It goes to show how much of a losing battle to stop piracy is. MPAA, RIAA - they've been trying without much success. |
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Asmodeus
join:2004-05-26
Spring Valley, CA
| nothing new here...
all this statement by microsoft does is illuminate what has been the inside baseball within software companies... if it wasn't for pirating, as much as i hate to say it, most software wouldn't get the kind of eyeball demographics that these companies seek... all microsoft is doing now is lifting the veil on what software companies have always secretly promoted, but never admitted... at least it's out in the open and people can deal with it... |
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MxxCon
join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs:  
| Copy Protection
It begs the question of how annoying WGA would be if they were 100% committed to stopping piracy. Think StarForce 
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | open source
Nothing new to say but good point. I have said if there was less access to the pirated software and it was a lot harder to hack open source would be a lot bigger.
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | Piracy is why Microsoft is dominate today
It all started with pirating windows 3.1. |
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
| reply to MxxCon
Re: Copy Protection
said by MxxCon  :It begs the question of how annoying WGA would be if they were 100% committed to stopping piracy. Think StarForce or people on dial-up be forced on line 24/7 |
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arck1969
join:2006-11-27
Apple Valley, CA | reply to inteller
Re: Piracy is why Microsoft is dominate today
I thought it was from MS DOS that is the first OS I had that was pirated. |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Yar!
A lot of the vehemence of Microsoft's anti-pirate stance is probably due to Bill Gates's personal position -- he's hated pirates and piracy since Altair BASIC or even earlier. |
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iEvolution
join:2006-06-24
Ogden, UT | Well they made one sale from me..
I decided to go legit with Windows XP Professional after getting annoyed with always having to find a new crack to get updates from Windows Update. I don't regret not buying it. |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| reply to Boricua65
Re: Piracy will never end
said by Boricua65 :It goes to show how much of a losing battle to stop piracy is. MPAA, RIAA - they've been trying without much success. I think you're comparing apples to oranges.
Pirating software is much different than pirating music. Software is a different medium and used much differently. Mixed with updates that verify validity and service packs that do the same pirating software doesn't pay off as much as music.
I had a pirated copy of XP just like everyone else. I got tired of work arounds and crap to get it to update after SP2 and simply went out and bought it. I did the same with a pirated copy of FrontPage. I've done it with other software.
I've never, EVER, bought an album after I pirated the music. There's no point. It's already there. It's not going to change. There isn't going to be updates and other things to make pirating it not worth it.
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
| I get your point, but it can work the other way around too. When my daughter just turned two my wife and I started looking into what the new kids programming was. We downloaded a bunch of SpongeBob. We had the seen the products at stores. We now own Seasons one through three as well as some toys and clothes. Viacom definitely made a profit off of that deal. |
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Derfel
join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB | reply to xerxes3642
Re: OK so here is the
Exactly why my employers signed on for licenses for Adobe InDesign - we had Publisher, and after I had used a pirated copy of InDesign for a year to try it out, we switched on my advice. Just goes to show... |
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cbrain
join:2000-05-21
Silver Spring, MD | OK, thanks.
Could you transfer me to that department please.  |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
 ·Embarq
| Cry us a river, MS
Does anyone really think that MS can't come up with something better than WGA? If the answer is no, then MS is far worse than anyone knows, and buying their software is completely ridiculous. If yes, then there's your answer: they're only putting up speed bumps because they know damn well (as this article points out) that they NEED pirating to survive. Pirates make their world go round. The trouble is, their stuff is getting to the point in quality where it's not worth the time and effort to pirate (and you'll need a new box to run it), and the prices are to the point where upgrading is way beyond worth it -- hence new releases that may as well accompany a new computer purchase only. Me thinks they've boxed themselves into a corner of their own making by pure complacency -- the one thing Gates said would never happen at MS, but the very thing they repeat over and over. Pretty soon someone out there in Redmond is going to have to put away the Apple copier and make something original, because MS seems to think innovation is looking around to see what sells, doing a copy and paste with a repackage, and turning the end result over to marketing to sell it. We get WoW! as the result.
Perhaps they should put Ralph Reed back on retainer? |
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xerxes3642
join:2006-02-24
Saint Charles, MO | Bill GAtes
supports piracy because he himself has got to be the most profitable pirate ever.
His biggest victim...
Gary Kildall CP/M operating system |
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CPM
join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL | reply to inteller
Re: Piracy is why Microsoft is dominate today
Good, I just downloaded windows 2000 pro. |
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Penny3000
join:2003-11-24
Oak Ridge, TN
| reply to iEvolution
The key...
The Key to getting the software that is needed, is knowing how to get it cheap. What if I told you that Vista could be had for $85 (this is home premium, no real need for ultimate) or how about Office 2007 (Enterprise ed.) for 85 also. Hard to believe but it can be done. One thing I learned being an IT Manager is that you don't have to pay retail for anything, even if it's for one copy (or license). Another good example, is I used to get Windows 2003 Server (Enterprise Ed.) with 25 CALS for less than 600 versus what some online retailers were asking for, which was $2000 or more for the same version with only 5 CALS. The key is that you have to be patient, informed consumer when it comes to products like this. Nothing more, nothing less. |
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Siryak
join:2005-11-26 | Lol what cbrain said.  |
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RainWind
join:2000-10-20
Van Wert, OH
| Yarr!
Piracy definitely leads to sales and exposure. For games and applications. However, music is a different story. I don't think I've ever met a music pirate who went out and bought it. It doesn't bother me much since a musician's main source of income is live shows. Music piracy just hurts the middle man, which I don't have a lot of sympathy for because they aren't the ones with the creative talent and they're definitely charging too much for CDs. On-line subscriptions aren't bad tho. I'm happy with my cheap yahoo subscription. |
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