  Rickez Goinginsane
join:2000-09-02 Three Rivers, MA 1 edit | want
I'm ready I want it. Those are nice numbers... »[Speed] Upload powerboost is here! (Illinois and Indiana) |
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  Defiance82 Computer Elite Premium join:2002-09-11 Reeds Spring, MO clubs:  | Yes they are nice. It works good here. |
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  MysticGogeta The Robot Devil Premium join:2005-03-14 League City, TX clubs: | Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection
I think its a great idea but I would much rather have a uncapped service then a short "boost" in speed. This will just make people who do speeds tests happy. -- Team Discovery-Join the fight |
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  Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02 | Oh it's absolutely brilliant in a marketing perspective in that regard... |
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  koitsu Premium join:2002-07-16 Mountain View, CA
| reply to MysticGogeta I both agree and disagree.
Agree: The core of the problem is that, for absolutely no justified reason (in my opinion), residential bandwidth has gone the asymmetrical route. A lot of networking equipment *does not work this way*, so honestly you have to go out of your way to make things asymmetrical.
There's really no technical reason that I know of for cable being asymmetric like that. I realise cable television was originally engineered with the concept of upstream data being very minute, but has the cable network not evolved since then?
Disagree: As a Comcast user myself, I can tell you my #1 complaint has been with the upstream rate. I pay the outrageous price of US$72/month for my broadband service just so I can get something higher than a 384kbit upstream (the faster downstream is nice too, but that's not why I pay for the higher tier service).
So, from a residential user perspective, Comcast offering something like speedboost on upstream is absolutely wonderful. 2000kbit upstream? Awesome. You're NOT going to find DSL offering that anytime soon, because hardly any (basically none) of the DSL providers in the United States are going to re-engineer their networks and buy into ADSL2+ just to give customers that. Let's not forget that ADSL2+ only gives you decent speed improvements if you're an incredibly short distance from the CO, too.
Now, from a marketing perspective, Comcast offering speedboost on their upstream gives them another thing they can hold over the head of DSL.
Do I like DSL? Absolutely! I hate cable for the fact that it's a "shared bandwidth" medium; all it takes is one of my neighbours to be a w4r3z kiddie and my speeds are basically shot, since he'll be chewing up the pipe 24x7. I also hate how flippant latency is on cable. DSL gives each user what they pay for, and the latency is much more consistent/stable. If I had a choice of technology, DSL or cable, I'd pick DSL. But I'd want cable speed/bandwidth on DSL. 
But honestly I don't see DSL winning this war until telcos agree to upgrade their existing networks, and that's never going to happen in the United States. -- Making life hard for others since 1977. |
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  koitsu Premium join:2002-07-16 Mountain View, CA
| reply to Defiance82 Re: want
Anyone wanna take votes on when northern California gets this technology deployed? Like with general rollouts, we're always (I repeat: ALWAYS) last.
So I'm guessing we'll get this sometime in August. -- Making life hard for others since 1977. |
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 JSRoman Premium join:2005-03-10 Callahan, FL
| reply to MysticGogeta Re: Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection
said by MysticGogeta :I think its a great idea but I would much rather have a uncapped service then a short "boost" in speed. This will just make people who do speeds tests happy. We all know that Mr. Average Joe spends all their time doing speed test. Can you at least admit it will benefit majority of folks who uploads pictures or short videos? How much is Comcast charging again for this? Say it with me, FFFFFreeeeeeeeee! -- www.seabee.org |
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  dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
·Comcast
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said by koitsu :Anyone wanna take votes on when northern California gets this technology deployed? Like with general rollouts, we're always (I repeat: ALWAYS) last. So I'm guessing we'll get this sometime in August. Yeah, of next year maybe!  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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 JSRoman Premium join:2005-03-10 Callahan, FL | PowerBoost enhancement on upload speeds will continue to launch on a market by market basis through May 2007. Specific launch dates will vary by market. -- www.seabee.org |
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 DSHIELD
join:2006-05-27 Micmac, NS | reply to koitsu Re: Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection
You pay 72 month for cable connection wow dammm why so high.
But now look very nice upload speed and download looks awesome but it's still too high 72 dammmmmm |
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  c0de
join:2004-10-14 Richmond, VA
| HSI for business affected?
I am a Comcast Business subscriber, and would be intrested to know how this will affect the Comcast Business HSI.
Currently I have a steady Upstream of 1mbit but would love to have more, they just dont offer it. But now with residential customers getting this boost perhaps they will offer a higher teir for thier business customers?
if anyone knows anything about this or knows of a good thread, please let me know. |
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  BabyBear Keep wise ...with Night-Owl
join:2007-01-11 | reply to JSRoman Re: Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection
Haha, As always Beware of FFFFrreeee!  |
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 RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11
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| reply to JSRoman Comcast advertises almost exclusively on speed, so it is natural for them to try to rig the results of speed tests. This succeeds admirably at that, and you've got to give their marketing department credit for coming up with the perfect ad scam.
I think some would disagree with your "free" assessment though. Last time I checked, Comcast HSI was far from free. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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  jasqid Fiber In Your Diet?
join:2002-04-02 East Palestine, OH | What about me?
So when does everyone else get it? Does someone have a roadmap for the rest of us? (Market Launch List?) |
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  china crisis
join:2003-05-28
| reply to RadioDoc Re: Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection
said by RadioDoc :Comcast advertises almost exclusively on speed, so it is natural for them to try to rig the results of speed tests. Comcast doesn't need to "rig" any speed tests to show its faster than DSL. |
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 RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
1 edit | Who said anything about "faster than DSL"? They can't compete on price so they come up with some ethereal product attribute to concentrate on--"highspeed"--which means nothing. Then they use it to differentiate themselves. It's classic marketing.
But now that you mention it, they can't seem to break 4 megabits in this system, and my DSL is 50% faster than that, with twice their 384 kbps upload. So I laugh every time I see those commercials. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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 The Way Out
join:2003-01-20 | reply to koitsu Re: want
Remember the days when @Home used Fremont as the test bed for everything? They got everything first.  |
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  Loker Premium join:2004-07-11 Fargo, ND clubs:
| reply to MysticGogeta Re: Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection
said by MysticGogeta :I think its a great idea but I would much rather have a uncapped service then a short "boost" in speed. This will just make people who do speeds tests happy. power boost on download has really been a god send for me....if I am in a hurry I can download anything under 100MB's really quickly thanks to power boost....like yesterday 50MB video driver downloaded in 10-15 seconds.... -- "While preceding your entrance with a grenade is a good tactic inQuake, it can lead to problems if attempted at work." -- C Hacking |
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 devnuller
join:2006-06-10 Hollis, NH
| reply to koitsu said by koitsu :Do I like DSL? Absolutely! I hate cable for the fact that it's a "shared bandwidth" medium; all it takes is one of my neighbours to be a w4r3z kiddie and my speeds are basically shot, since he'll be chewing up the pipe 24x7. Why share with only your neighbors when with DSL you can share with your whole town?
The "neighborhood sharing" issue is old, tired and mostly marketing FUD. With EVERY technology sharing is a factor. It is just where and how you manage capacity |
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  MysticGogeta The Robot Devil Premium join:2005-03-14 League City, TX clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to JSRoman said by JSRoman :said by MysticGogeta :I think its a great idea but I would much rather have a uncapped service then a short "boost" in speed. This will just make people who do speeds tests happy. We all know that Mr. Average Joe spends all their time doing speed test. Can you at least admit it will benefit majority of folks who uploads pictures or short videos? How much is Comcast charging again for this? Say it with me, FFFFFreeeeeeeeee! The "Average Joe" so to speak when he sees this boost he will believe that there speed is higher then it actually is. Don't get me wrong I think Power Boost is a great idea but I see the "Average Joe" calling and complaining when they don't have the boost running 24/7 -- Team Discovery-Join the fight |
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