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Comments on news posted 2007-03-01 11:09:43: As promised by our resident Comcast techs, Comcast has launched upstream Powerboost in the Chicago market. User impressions and speed tests are available in this thread. ..

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Rickez
Goinginsane

join:2000-09-02
Three Rivers, MA

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want

I'm ready I want it. Those are nice numbers...
»[Speed] Upload powerboost is here! (Illinois and Indiana)


Defiance82
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Reeds Spring, MO
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Yes they are nice. It works good here.


MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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League City, TX
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 Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection

I think its a great idea but I would much rather have a uncapped service then a short "boost" in speed. This will just make people who do speeds tests happy.
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Oh it's absolutely brilliant in a marketing perspective in that regard...


koitsu
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join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA

reply to MysticGogeta
I both agree and disagree.

Agree:
The core of the problem is that, for absolutely no justified reason (in my opinion), residential bandwidth has gone the asymmetrical route. A lot of networking equipment *does not work this way*, so honestly you have to go out of your way to make things asymmetrical.

There's really no technical reason that I know of for cable being asymmetric like that. I realise cable television was originally engineered with the concept of upstream data being very minute, but has the cable network not evolved since then?

Disagree:
As a Comcast user myself, I can tell you my #1 complaint has been with the upstream rate. I pay the outrageous price of US$72/month for my broadband service just so I can get something higher than a 384kbit upstream (the faster downstream is nice too, but that's not why I pay for the higher tier service).

So, from a residential user perspective, Comcast offering something like speedboost on upstream is absolutely wonderful. 2000kbit upstream? Awesome. You're NOT going to find DSL offering that anytime soon, because hardly any (basically none) of the DSL providers in the United States are going to re-engineer their networks and buy into ADSL2+ just to give customers that. Let's not forget that ADSL2+ only gives you decent speed improvements if you're an incredibly short distance from the CO, too.

Now, from a marketing perspective, Comcast offering speedboost on their upstream gives them another thing they can hold over the head of DSL.

Do I like DSL? Absolutely! I hate cable for the fact that it's a "shared bandwidth" medium; all it takes is one of my neighbours to be a w4r3z kiddie and my speeds are basically shot, since he'll be chewing up the pipe 24x7. I also hate how flippant latency is on cable. DSL gives each user what they pay for, and the latency is much more consistent/stable. If I had a choice of technology, DSL or cable, I'd pick DSL. But I'd want cable speed/bandwidth on DSL.

But honestly I don't see DSL winning this war until telcos agree to upgrade their existing networks, and that's never going to happen in the United States.
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koitsu
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Mountain View, CA

reply to Defiance82
Re: want

Anyone wanna take votes on when northern California gets this technology deployed? Like with general rollouts, we're always (I repeat: ALWAYS) last.

So I'm guessing we'll get this sometime in August.
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JSRoman
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Callahan, FL

reply to MysticGogeta
Re: Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection

said by MysticGogeta See Profile :

I think its a great idea but I would much rather have a uncapped service then a short "boost" in speed. This will just make people who do speeds tests happy.
We all know that Mr. Average Joe spends all their time doing speed test. Can you at least admit it will benefit majority of folks who uploads pictures or short videos? How much is Comcast charging again for this? Say it with me, FFFFFreeeeeeeeee!
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dadkins
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast

reply to koitsu
Re: want

said by koitsu See Profile :

Anyone wanna take votes on when northern California gets this technology deployed? Like with general rollouts, we're always (I repeat: ALWAYS) last.

So I'm guessing we'll get this sometime in August.
Yeah, of next year maybe!
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JSRoman
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join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
PowerBoost™ enhancement on upload speeds will continue to launch on a market by market basis through May 2007. Specific launch dates will vary by market.
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DSHIELD

join:2006-05-27
Micmac, NS
reply to koitsu
Re: Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection

You pay 72 month for cable connection wow dammm why so high.

But now look very nice upload speed and download looks awesome but it's still too high 72 dammmmmm


c0de

join:2004-10-14
Richmond, VA

HSI for business affected?

I am a Comcast Business subscriber, and would be intrested to know how this will affect the Comcast Business HSI.

Currently I have a steady Upstream of 1mbit but would love to have more, they just dont offer it. But now with residential customers getting this boost perhaps they will offer a higher teir for thier business customers?

if anyone knows anything about this or knows of a good thread, please let me know.


BabyBear
Keep wise ...with Night-Owl

join:2007-01-11
reply to JSRoman
Re: Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection

Haha, As always Beware of FFFFrreeee!

RadioDoc
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reply to JSRoman
Comcast advertises almost exclusively on speed, so it is natural for them to try to rig the results of speed tests. This succeeds admirably at that, and you've got to give their marketing department credit for coming up with the perfect ad scam.

I think some would disagree with your "free" assessment though. Last time I checked, Comcast HSI was far from free.
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jasqid
Fiber In Your Diet?

join:2002-04-02
East Palestine, OH
What about me?

So when does everyone else get it?
Does someone have a roadmap for the rest of us? (Market Launch List?)


china crisis

join:2003-05-28

reply to RadioDoc
Re: Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection

said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Comcast advertises almost exclusively on speed, so it is natural for them to try to rig the results of speed tests.
Comcast doesn't need to "rig" any speed tests to show its faster than DSL.

RadioDoc
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Who said anything about "faster than DSL"? They can't compete on price so they come up with some ethereal product attribute to concentrate on--"highspeed"--which means nothing. Then they use it to differentiate themselves. It's classic marketing.

But now that you mention it, they can't seem to break 4 megabits in this system, and my DSL is 50% faster than that, with twice their 384 kbps upload. So I laugh every time I see those commercials.
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The Way Out

join:2003-01-20
reply to koitsu
Re: want

Remember the days when @Home used Fremont as the test bed for everything? They got everything first.


Loker
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reply to MysticGogeta
Re: Gives False Hope of a Faster Connection

said by MysticGogeta See Profile :

I think its a great idea but I would much rather have a uncapped service then a short "boost" in speed. This will just make people who do speeds tests happy.
power boost on download has really been a god send for me....if I am in a hurry I can download anything under 100MB's really quickly thanks to power boost....like yesterday 50MB video driver downloaded in 10-15 seconds....
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devnuller

join:2006-06-10
Hollis, NH

reply to koitsu
said by koitsu See Profile :

Do I like DSL? Absolutely! I hate cable for the fact that it's a "shared bandwidth" medium; all it takes is one of my neighbours to be a w4r3z kiddie and my speeds are basically shot, since he'll be chewing up the pipe 24x7.
Why share with only your neighbors when with DSL you can share with your whole town?

The "neighborhood sharing" issue is old, tired and mostly marketing FUD. With EVERY technology sharing is a factor. It is just where and how you manage capacity


MysticGogeta
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reply to JSRoman
said by JSRoman See Profile :

said by MysticGogeta See Profile :

I think its a great idea but I would much rather have a uncapped service then a short "boost" in speed. This will just make people who do speeds tests happy.
We all know that Mr. Average Joe spends all their time doing speed test. Can you at least admit it will benefit majority of folks who uploads pictures or short videos? How much is Comcast charging again for this? Say it with me, FFFFFreeeeeeeeee!
The "Average Joe" so to speak when he sees this boost he will believe that there speed is higher then it actually is. Don't get me wrong I think Power Boost is a great idea but I see the "Average Joe" calling and complaining when they don't have the boost running 24/7
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