brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | haha
This will motivate people even more. Since your fines are so low. The RIAA are newbions and should just give up! |
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thender2
Glamour Profession
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join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY | Just use usenet.
Then you don't have to deal with this nonsense.
Or, only share between friends.
Why bother opening yourself to a ton of people you don't know for no benefit when there is a possibility of getting nailed to the wall for it? |
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pmizelll
Premium
join:2003-08-13
Houston, TX
1 edit | reply to brianiscool
Re: haha
It doesn't get any sleazier than this.
Pay a grand ... do not pass go and you DON'T GO TO JAIL!
Absolutely amazing! This is borderline extortion!! |
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swintec
Premium
join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME |  Yea But..
Will they accept PayPal? |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Cant wait
Till a US court hands the RIAA the largest fine in history for technically searching without a court order. Even the FBI has to get a court order to gather records such as those.
Talk about invasion of privacy. They will get their collective arses handed to them.
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| To quote a Slashdot poster: "The more you tighten your..."
"...grip Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your
fingers."
That famous Star Wars analogy is appropriate here. This is
only going to alienate the RIAA in the eyes of the consumer
even more. Many ISPs will simply refuse to go along with it;
those that do will find themselves losing customers. And it
will do nothing to deter filesharing.
The RIAA needs to stop seeing p2p users as the enemy and
instead see them as competition or free publicity for their
music. If they were to adopt a model like that of Allofmp3,
they would make a fortune. Instead they cling to their old
pre-digital technology ways of doing business.
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BabyBear
Keep wise ...with Night-Owl
join:2007-01-11
|  reply to swintec
Re: Yea But..
Sorry Western Union transfers only!  
It used to be $3,500 for extortion a settlement, now its down to $1,000 for a Quickie! Hmm, Maybe next your RIAA settlement will be bidded on Ebay!  |
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pglowiak
join:2006-01-16
Madison, IN | reply to Doctor Four
Re: To quote a Slashdot poster: "The more you tighten your..."
The RIAA are no longer relevant, what they are trying to do is save their jobs. |
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frankenfeet
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join:2001-10-14
Smiths Grove, KY | Targeting downloaders now?
I don't do any uploading, but now we can expect to get sued for downloading?
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x30n_
Not Sure What Color Pill To Call It
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join:2000-09-14
wrong turn
clubs: 
| P2P users = cannon fodder
So what do the ISP's get for the increase of hardware they will need to store 180 days worth of records of all their users, then the time that is needed to sort through all those records when needed?
Oh, to let the ISP's offer 'guilty' (without a trial) p2p users a $1,000 settlement option that goes to the RIAA. They might as well dump their logs and just send the letters like they have been.
Other then that, p2p users are the lowest on the totem in the scene anyways and they are the Usenet users cannon fodder as long as they keep it up. Way to go p2p, keep the heat off of us!!!
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
 ·Sprint Broadband D..
| reply to pmizelll
Re: haha
said by pmizelll  :It doesn't get any sleazier than this. Pay a grand ... do not pass go and you DON'T GO TO JAIL! Absolutely amazing! This is borderline extortion!! Nothing borderline about it at all. This is straight out of protection racket schemes. Instead of breaking legs, they just use other methods.
What this appears to be is more like law firms and the **AA's maintaining a cash stream by any means they can muster. Like SLAPP lawsuits, they bank on no real legal challenge being mounted to their tactics. Add to that their generous political contributions which serve to stave off legislation that might nip their extortionary behaviors in the bud.
Sooner or later, a Dickey Flatt or Mike Papantonio-type lawyer, expert in the dark and eldritch arts of the class action lawsuit, is gonna rest his or her laser targeting pip on these shysters. Then, the real fun is gonna begin. |
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shellenberg
Premium
join:2003-12-20
Salmo, BC
| reply to x30n_
Re: P2P users = cannon fodder
said by x30n_ :So what do the ISP's get for the increase of hardware they will need to store 180 days worth of records of all their users, then the time that is needed to sort through all those records when needed? Immunity. Passing the buck, so to speak. |
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Mizzat
Will post for thumbs
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join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
 ·AT&T Southeast
| It says nothing of a $1000 settlement
It says DISCOUNTS of $1000 or more on settlements, but never says the settlements will BE $10000, or am I missing something. It also says they will be launching a website for the lawsuits at www.p2plawsuits.com later this year....interesting. Quick one stop shop for litigation!
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RideRed
Vista needs a popup blocker for Vista
Premium
join:2005-06-18
USA
1 edit | Dump the data daily
The ISP's should simply stop keeping logs more than 15 days unless they absolutely need them to operate. I don't run an ISP so I know know if logs (more than say a week's worth) are necessary to operate but if they aren't, simply don't keep them. |
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Shack
join:2002-01-17
Bloomington, IN | Would this be legal?
Sound almost like racketeering? It is at the very least not ethical. |
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kyramilan
join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL
| reply to brianiscool
Re: haha
Actually, since no subpoena was obtained probably to get your info and/or you had no court input, I'd probably sue them for Invasion of Privacy. One can oppose a civil subpoena of records. A criminal subpoena goes unless it is private psychiatric records. A Judge won't approve those. |
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
·epix
| reply to BabyBear
Re: Yea But..
Does anybody really expect the new RIAA extortion site to stay up on the web for long.?
That is like putting an un-patched, unprotected XP box on the web, saying in huge letters: Here I am.
IMO, that site will get hacked, infected by a very large botnet zombied DDOS attack in minutes and disappear from the web.
I hope they have the bandwidth to handle the traffic. I wonder if the pirate bay will notice their site...hmmm
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dbozzo
join:2003-10-29
Roslindale, MA | reply to Shack
Re: Would this be legal?
No, it will not be without a court order. Knowing these sleezballs, they'll just randomly send out notices to anyone and everyone asking for $1000 because they can't track absolutely everything going on all at once. |
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voyager6868
join:2003-01-29
Lynnwood, WA
·Bell Sympatico
| Call Katheryn at 303-866-0408
I love the sample letter. Basically "if you want to find out exactly why you received this letter, call the RIAA". I'm sure the first question the RIAA asks is "What's your name and address?". Then all the idiots out there who actually answer such a question are sunk. I think ISPs could get in trouble for suggesting consumers call the RIAA.
I think everyone on this site should call the legal counsel indicated on the letter: Katheryn Coggon at 303-866-0408 and let her know what you think of these underhanded tactics. |
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getbentnow
@comcast.net | This is a gift for Pirates
I say take every Pirate to court, prosecute them and make them pay the full $10,000 per copy plus court fees and then sentence them to a minimum 1 year in jail. |
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