  JamesPC
join:2005-10-12 Orange, CA
| Verizon...Ha
Why has Verizon not changed its public policy on the "unlimited" limited connection? Has this not gotten there attention or do they just not care? Probably the second, if they can still sell it to the naive, that will pay more for a "more" limited service, which they will. I will never give a company like this my money. I understand that a company must do what is best for itself but at what cost? They have decided to just lie to us (customers). Bad Form. |
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  Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02 | It's gotten ample press at this point, your answer is the second one... |
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 Sphincter
join:2002-06-20 Fort Myers, FL
| Interesting Results
I keep seeing reports of how Sprint Wireless beats the competition, but in SW Florida, that's not necessarily the case. A friend who, is a Radio Engineer for a Broadcaster in the area, recently tested Sprint, Verizon, Cingular and Alltel. His stations wanted to test the feasibility of using wireless cell services for remote broadcasts. This guy is more anal than me (that's not necessarily a bad thing), and is very thorough in any task he undertakes. His results for the Fort Myers and Naples area showed that Verizon beat them all. I was surprised due to the reports I read here and other sites. I just thought I'd pass this info on and was curious if anyone else has compared the competition for themselves? |
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  Sebastian Premium join:2000-12-22 New Haven, CT
3 edits | reply to Karl Bode Re: Verizon...Ha
it's pretty obvious sprint is king of wireless broadband...
sprint upgraded most areas around here to rev A and i get 2-3mbit/s down and almost 1mbit up with higher burst. you can actually game off it.. ping is about 40ms.
yet sprint advertises:
450-800 Kbps down with peak rates up to 3.1 Mbps 300-400 Kbps up with peak rates up to 1.8 Mbps
everyone else is still years behind.. |
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 ke4pym
join:2004-07-24 Charlotte, NC | reply to Sphincter Re: Interesting Results
I agree with you, Sphincter. Sprint is horrible in this market too. |
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  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| said by ke4pym :I agree with you, Sphincter. Sprint is horrible in this market too. The test seems to count out Cingular all together and gets a tie for Sprint and Verizon on coverage, but Sprint wins the "Unlimited" test.
So, Sprint it is, unless their coverage sucks in the areas you want service in. -- -- My BLOG My Web Page |
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  Michieru2 zzz zzz zzz Premium join:2005-01-28 Miami, FL | reply to Sphincter I can confirm this as well as although I don't have a Rev A card I get speeds of around 500Kbps/76Kbps and sometimes much less. By the way the carrier I am referring to is Sprint. But I am in SE Florida. |
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  ifarrell
join:2000-08-10 Willow Spring, NC
·Vonage
2 edits | reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail :said by ke4pym :I agree with you, Sphincter. Sprint is horrible in this market too. The test seems to count out Cingular all together and gets a tie for Sprint and Verizon on coverage, but Sprint wins the "Unlimited" test. So, Sprint it is, unless their coverage sucks in the areas you want service in. I have to say that I am also surprised Sprint got top honors. I can see why Cingular came last especially in Rural areas as the Service sucks (I can speak from personal experience having seen and used Cingular Nationwide from Miami, FL to Timbuktoo, MT). Verizon needs to stop advertising "Unlimited" when it isn't. If it wasn't for that fact Verizon should have beat Sprint by far. Don't get me wrong, I am a Sprint user (Voice only) and it works pretty good for the price I am paying. Given the choice though, I'd take Verizon for Wireless Broadband.
BTW, the reason Cingular has the fewest dropped calls is because you can't drop a call you can't make  |
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  en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | reply to Sebastian Re: Verizon...Ha
Umm HSDPA 3.6 Mbps cards are already being sold - no network upgrades required. |
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 Dirtyping
join:2001-10-30 West Haverstraw, NY
| reply to ifarrell Re: Interesting Results
said by ifarrell :BTW, the reason Cingular has the fewest dropped calls is because you can't drop a call you can't make So true. I had AT&T Wireless free2go prepaid analog service which worked quite well even in rural areas. After Cingular brought AT&T Wireless they replaced that service with their digital GO phone service.
Since I was an existing customer I was able to stay with the AT&T service until my phone died. So the new phone ended up with the Cingular prepaid Go service which was supposed to be the same but totally sucks.
It shows on the map that it is supposed to work in Orange County, NY but does not work anywhere north of Rockland county. |
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  Anonuser
join:2003-01-03 Milwaukee, WI
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I use my sprint EVDO constantly. When I drive down to East Chicago in North Indiana, I stream TV or DVD's using ORB to my Sprint Samsung A-900 phone, and it's seemless streaming all the way, not once loosing connectino to the EVDO network! When teathered to my laptop, i believe the lowest EVDO speed I have tested was 500k/s, while driving on the highway around Racine County. Otherwise, I average about 750-800k/s using a roadrunner speed test. -- Do the Do! |
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 patcat88
join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | more coverage
Where Verizon has coverage, it is often wider than Sprints in the same area, Sprint wont EVDO rural areas, Verizon will. |
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  Fox McCloud Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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| reply to Sebastian Re: Verizon...Ha
If/when the upgrade to Revision A happens here (didn't Sprint say their entire network will be EVDO Revision A by this summer?) I'll probably consider getting one of their broadband cards and the specialized Linksys router...at the rate we're currently going, I doubt broadband is going to be deployed any time soon.
I also hope that I'll be able to get similar results to you, Sebastian. Even though $60 a month is a little pricey, I'd be willing to pay it if I could get decent speed and latency. |
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 nnaarrnn
join:2004-09-30 Nitro, WV
·Vonage
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Suddenlink
| Rural Sprint
I live in WV and the Sprint coverage is great, along major interstates and towns. I use voice+data (PPC-6700 PDA phone, AND old sanyo phone always tethered to laptop) We dont have EVDO here, but always 4-5 bars of 1x service. Every speed test I've ever done with 2 or more bars I get 140k up/down. Ping is a lil slow, but it does what I need when I need it. I have a Cingular Treo, and voice service totally sucks on it, and data through it is never more than 80-90k with 400+ ms pings. Hands Down sprint beats cingular. I've never made a call to a cingular customer that worked completely. Either thier phone never rings, or they dont have service (including friends that live in Larger cities (San Fran., Buffalo). |
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 expert007
join:2006-01-10 Buffalo, NY | reply to Sebastian Re: Verizon...Ha
You gotta be kidding me. What octane tweak are you using? My rev. A with great signal gives me 400k up max. |
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 hottboiinnc ME
join:2003-10-15 Cleveland, OH | reply to Dirtyping Re: Interesting Results
ATT had GO Phone before it was even part of Cingular. Cingular just took over maybe what 2 years ago? and ATT had the GO Phone in 2003 under ATTWS |
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  cpayne5
join:2004-01-06
| reply to patcat88 Re: more coverage
 My View |
Here is a view out my back door. My county's density is roughly 24 people per sq mile. I have Sprint EVDO. Sprint is the *only* carrier that serves my area. Nobody else even offers so much as analog service. My commute is 50+ miles through country like what you see in the picture. I have an EVDO signal 100% of the way. -- Hail To The Redskins |
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  Fox McCloud Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23 | reply to expert007 Re: Verizon...Ha
I'd take that too...anything to at least be able to playing games at low latency, use VoIP, and engage in just about any broadband activity out there. Although, having an upload greater than 128K would be nice..then I could use Slingbox. |
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  Fox McCloud Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
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| reply to cpayne5 Re: more coverage
Wow, I'm surprised EVDO is in your area!
I live in a somewhat similar situation...though there are no mountains in my area, and the population per square mile is 4 times as high.
Anyway, what kind of uploads and downloads do you get? What about latency?
If EVDO Rev. A really is deployed near nationwide, then rural people can FINALLY stop complaining (hopefully). |
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  cpayne5
join:2004-01-06
| I only have a Rev0 card, but I get ~1mbps down and about 120kbps up. Latency is around 150ms. I'm about 3 miles away from two towers (NLOS). I have an external Wilson trucker antenna that gets me an EVDO signal of -65dBm. -- Hail To The Redskins |
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