Jeffrey
too dark too early
Premium
join:2002-12-24
Dix Hills,NY
clubs:
 ·Optimum Online
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Vonage
·magicjack.com
1 edit | Embarassing
Wow, that's some pretty pathetic caps, at least the basic and basic lite. Even the High Speed & Ultra packages are pathetic, but unless you're a movie or music downloader, you might slide in under the caps. Then again, if you're paying for that package, chances are you do download music and video, so there goes that argument.
$10/GB for over use? Are they crazy? |
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chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA
| Self Monitoring?
Are they going to provide their customers with a monitoring tool to show their "balance". I mean you should not asked someone to limit their use and not provide a monitoring tool. And those caps can be easily reach with VoIP, picture uploads and other relative heavy use....
I just hope NO US provider follow their lead on this. |
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backness
join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2 | Canada is a competition VORTEX! |
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Deadpool
Go Sens Go
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-29
Canada
 ·Bell Sympatico
| reply to chemaupr
Yes, there is a bandwidth tracker.
This also only affects NEW customers as of December 3rd.
So instead of ISP's in Canada doing like the US and arguing net neutrality and wanting to pass the bandwidth costs to the content providers, they're passing on the cost to the content downloaders.
(Although one Quebec ISP, Videotron, has brought up the net neutrality issue...but they're the only one's, and they also have bandwidth caps).
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| LAME
So I guess Sympatico is going to do everything they can to ensure that customers don't get spam, popups, malware and any other extraneous traffic that would help customers cross the line?
No, I did not think so. I hope Sympatico customers teach this ISP a lesson by switching or dumping service.
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backness
join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2 | dude they own the whole network!
also can someone who works there please tell me why in 2006 it costs more to move less data?
imo data should cost less to move now, not more? |
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Deadpool
Go Sens Go
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-29
Canada
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to pnh102
said by pnh102  :So I guess Sympatico is going to do everything they can to ensure that customers don't get spam, popups, malware and any other extraneous traffic that would help customers cross the line? No, I did not think so. I hope Sympatico customers teach this ISP a lesson by switching or dumping service. Sure they do. It's called anti-spam filters and using Webmail to delete the message without viewing it.
As for popups and malware, I don't think anyone can seriously consider that as being a source of high bandwidth, nor have I ever heard of anyone using that as a reason for their bandwidth being high.
And before you post a reply stating that they can be exploited by some mailing worm or virus or botnet, since this only applies to NEW customers as of Dec 3rd, they all have to use an SSL SMTP server with authentication, and port 25 is blocked for ALL other traffic.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| said by Deadpool :port 25 is blocked for ALL other traffic. Wow, what a useless "Internet" connection.
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symsucks
@mb.ca
| This is in effect already...
This is already happening to existing users of the Basic service. My mother in Hamilton was charged $3.00 for going 100 MB over her 2GB limit on Sympatico Basic. All she was doing was sending and downloading pictures of my late father, who passed away in May. I am disgusted with Sympatico already, and now upping the charges and lowering the cap means that Sympatico is no longer a viable choice for anyone who wants a lighter package than regular high speed. I will be advising my mother (and all other I know who use Sympatico) to leave and go to another provider by the end of the year. |
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Deadpool
Go Sens Go
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-29
Canada
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to pnh102
Re: LAME
said by pnh102 :said by Deadpool :port 25 is blocked for ALL other traffic. Wow, what a useless "Internet" connection. I have no idea what you mean by that...
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Raptor
Not a Dumptruck
join:2001-10-21
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·Bell Sympatico
| Awfully Low...
Bye bye Sympatico. Caps/throttling were a primary reason I dumped Rogers. And now, they're once again, better than Bell.
Going to lose a fair number of users I think. 30GB is low. The whole only the super hog users will care argument is severely weakened with such a low cap. I can't believe it's so low. No more queuing up an ISO/DVD or two to download when I goto work. I'll come home to a spent cap.
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b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA | reply to Deadpool
Re: Self Monitoring?
So they have pre-passed the cost onto the user.
I am sure they will also be charging the content providers for access too sooner or later.
If they get away with it American companies will soon follow. |
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Deadpool
Go Sens Go
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-29
Canada | reply to Raptor
Re: Awfully Low...
Is everyone missing the part where this affects NEW customers only? Existing customers are NOT affected by this change!
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Deadpool
Go Sens Go
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-29
Canada | reply to b10010011
Re: Self Monitoring?
I believe it should be one or the other, not both. Shouldn't double-dip!
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twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON | umm
If you actually read the information, existing customers will be put into the CAP as well shortly.
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andyb
Premium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to symsucks
Re: This is in effect already...
For the price of Bells Basic+capcosts you can probably get high speed from Teksavvy or Electronicbox for cheaper than bell.They offer good support and the best peering. |
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andyb
Premium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario | reply to twizlar
Re: umm
Exactly. "At this time" means they are going to they just havent said when.They probably want to see how many people are going to leave. |
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twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON | Yeah, in any event not good news for anyone, except ISP'S like Teksavyy  |
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Bell Insider
@ynfonatic.de
1 edit | reply to twizlar
The most disgusting thing about this new policy is that bandwidth costs Bell roughly 5-6 cents/GB and their network is in very good shape. There's no good reason to justify bandwidth caps. It seems that they're trying to take advantage of people who aren't aware of the caps. People affected will be notified by email, not by a phone call and Sympatico's email service is known to be unreliable since their partnership with Microsoft's MSN service began.
This only affects new users for the time being but this is only because they want to see how it goes over. Eventually, caps will be introduced to all customers unless there is a massive revolt.
If they truly only wanted to pass on the cost of bandwidth to heavy users they would charge what they pay for it - 5-6 cents/GB. But they are just trying to gauge people. It's ridiculous. |
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Raptor
Not a Dumptruck
join:2001-10-21
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to Deadpool
Re: Awfully Low...
I move around every 4 months between university and co-op. I've opened at least 4-5 new service accounts since I've been at University. I got it, don't you worry. I was speaking in general. I don't plan on canceling tomorrow (actually I do since I'm moving in a month), but when I return to school in January it'll be back on the Rogers train.
And hey, there's always quitting based on principle 
However, it is an interesting point you make. Unless Bell takes a better approach to marketing this 'service improvement' people are going to cut services as soon as they hear the word cap, closing their ears to the 'new' customer part. But that doesn't matter, eventually, they'll kill any grandfather promise.
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