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Comments on news posted 2006-11-29 16:54:12: So far we've seen parents shut down school Wi-Fi because of health fears (with no supporting science), Universities saying Wi-Fi is akin to second hand smoke (with no supporting science) and a woman who believes wireless is her personal kryptonite (w.. ..

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Chris 313
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Finally!

The people here have been saying this exact thing for months in all these topics. Let's see that women who can detect if wireless in installed in a place, put up or STFU!.

This guru has the right idea.

moonpuppy

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We are already bombarded with EMR......

We have enough EMR already floating around to see if this is a problem. Cordless phones operate on the same frequencies of WiFi units yet no one is telling people to ditch those things.

Prove your point and have it verified or STFU.


kdepasquale

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Not quite the same thing...

I don't think that comparing these people to Louis Pasteur is quite the same thing. At least he had some sort of scientific basis for his claim, whereas these people have none. We also know that EMR from all across the spectrum comes from the sun alone, and that (with the exception of melanoma from UV rays) certainly isn't killing us.


Matt
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Microwave

I'd be more worried about the 1000 watt or 1500 watt Microwave then the 100 milli-Watt WiFi access point.
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????

Why shut down a school wi-fi when i bet there is a couple of CELL TOWERS pumping out RF close by or better yet a couple of repeaters near there.

Hell maybe i could complain saying the cell tower 1/2 mile from my house is making me sick and they need to turn the POS off. ( i dont own a cell phone BTW)

IMO these people claim this stuff MAYBE JUST MAYBE they need the F****** head EXAMINED


LiberalKing
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WIFI CORPS bought scientist

they have invested billions trying to shut down studies and have them sealed from the public. wifi = cancerous cells.
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quatrix
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Unless you removed the door, the microwave is shielded. And it's usually turned off.


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said by LiberalKing See Profile :

they have invested billions trying to shut down studies and have them sealed from the public. wifi = cancerous cells.
.........


DaveNJ
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Opposite arguement

Okay I find it really interesting how people are all attacking these people who claim to have been "hurt" by wifi. Could this be a psychosomatic response to an "unknown" ? I think its like the microwave people were afraid when they first come out, i think its just the same phenomenon.


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reply to Chris 313
Re: Finally!

said by Chris 313 See Profile :

The people here have been saying this exact thing for months in all these topics. Let's see that women who can detect if wireless in installed in a place, put up or STFU!.

This guru has the right idea.
You have these people making these bogus assumptions that WiFi is killing them, ripping down a school's system, etc....NIMBY at its worst.

I bet people don't know a thing about 'real' problems right in their backyard, like living near a Superfund site.
»www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/locate/index.htm
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Youll never guess...

My LAN conection gave me the flu yesterday.. I think im shutting down this operation before anyone gets seriously injured.

no_coin

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Re: CELL PHONE radiation on your BRAIN

Seems that cell phones pose a bigger hazard cause you hold it up to your head - spewing radio waves many times stronger that wifi.

Take those phones away from our kids


cableties
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Radiation by any other name is

still radiation!

Different cells react differently. You have an allergy to pollen? I don't. But I'm allergic to latex. Are you?

I can hear certain frequencies that might make a woman scream in pain, yet I can't hear the one of my watch's 2nd hand. Does that make me crazy? No. Irrational? No.

But cell tissues DO react to prolonged exposure to radiation. Whether from cellphones, radios, EMF/EMR, paging, microwaves... just how much and how long isn't understood.

Anyway, there are tin hats, tin-plated mesh and other metal fabrics that can protect you (and your schoolkids) if you are that concerned. You can even radhard your home. However, don't expect to receive any signals inside.

Just remember that WiFi is responsible for global warming...radiating the atmosphere!

(I'm kidding. It's really all the GPS and COMsats...)

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said by LiberalKing See Profile :

they have invested billions trying to shut down studies and have them sealed from the public. wifi = cancerous cells.
Really? Who are "they" and do you have any facts to back up that claim?

wifi (2.4GHz) = cancerous cells

but

cordless phone/baby monitor/wireless video game controller (2.4 GHz) != cancerous cells

Are you serious? So you mean to tell us that the cause of the cancer is the payload travelling over the waves and not the frequency of the waves themselves? I find that pretty hard to swallow...


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said by bbenso1 See Profile :

So you mean to tell us that the cause of the cancer is the payload travelling over the waves and not the frequency of the waves themselves? I find that pretty hard to swallow...
That's it! Viagra spam over Wi-Fi causes cancer!


Matt
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Unless you removed the door, the microwave is shielded. And it's usually turned off.
Yes, shielded by a few millimeters of steel or aluminum, yet putting out millions of times more radiation than an access point.
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said by cableties See Profile :

I can hear certain frequencies that might make a woman scream in pain, yet I can't hear the one of my watch's 2nd hand. Does that make me crazy? No. Irrational? No.

Yes, but that's totally different than what this lady is claiming. She claims that specifically wifi affects her health. Please note that there are myriad other devices that operate on the same frequency as wifi, but according to her they don't effect her. So her argument seems to be 2.4GHz signal carrying IP packets = bad, but 2.4GHz signal carrying a phone call or anything else = no problem. Seems a little fishy, doesn't it? Now if she was claiming that any wireless signal in the 2.4GHz spectrum caused her problems I'd be a little more open-minded about this.

She also claims that she can immediately tell if wifi is available in a location because of it's effects on her. I suppose then that she can differentiate between the feeling of wifi in the air and the feeling of a 2.4GHz baby monitor signal in the air, right?


calvoiper

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said by bbenso1 See Profile :

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She also claims that she can immediately tell if wifi is available in a location because of it's effects on her. I suppose then that she can differentiate between the feeling of wifi in the air and the feeling of a 2.4GHz baby monitor signal in the air, right?

Yeah. One of them sounds like a baby crying. The other sounds like a day trader crying....

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reply to Chris 313
Re: Finally!

All she has to say is that she feels the effects everywhere. Then she wins and nobody can prove otherwise.


Chris 313
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said by dslextreme See Profile :

All she has to say is that she feels the effects everywhere. Then she wins and nobody can prove otherwise.
Yes, she could. But I'll be sitting and laughing my ass off when this woman and her "problem" is debunked scientifically.
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