RayW
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| Why?
Maybe in the future, but given the current byte driven internet costs (and yes, even the "all you can eat" has a cost per byte at some point in the chain), it does not make much sense.
Of course, the potential for view on demand instead of 'it starts at 2PM EST or 3PM PST' is much nicer. Someday it might be common and people can not figure out how they ever survived without it (I dumped my cable and went back to the antenna, so you can see what I think of it.)
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ninjatutle
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San Ramon, CA | Better then nothin
Its good. |
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cableties
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join:2005-01-27
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Time will tell...
though with the increase of Red Ring of Death, I am wondering why one should put so much faith in one "appliance" as a dedicated media center (hub).
I've downloaded many demos from Live Marketplace and the quality is not there. And to get the quality you will need an increase in filesize, and bandwidth and then storage. The 360 only has a 20Gig drive, of which 7Gig is likely spoken for, leaving you with about 13Gigs. Not much for a media library.
Will MS offer a bigger drive? Or how about iTV from Apple? Should Apple have merged with Nintendo or Sony (recall rumors of Sony buying Apple...) to integrate media and OS?
Yawn. Sorry. Was up all night playing Gears of War...  |
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | Mine's on order. That good?  |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: Why?
said by RayW  :Maybe in the future, but given the current byte driven internet costs (and yes, even the "all you can eat" has a cost per byte at some point in the chain), it does not make much sense. If this download service gains traction, look for monthly byte caps or cost structures to charge over certain amount of bytes/month.
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Kearnstd
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maybe its time for the data market to change and adapt to what we the consumers use it for rather then old out dated business models.
we shouldnt hold back new methods of usage because the trunk providers are still using data business models from the 1980s.
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Maxo
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I have a 3.0M down connection and I can watch streaming video with no problem. High-quality, TV-like, video usually needs to be downloaded first.
I think we are at a point where offering video over IP is viable. It's nowhere near maturity, but getting the ball rolling now will help that maturity come sooner rather than later. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to cableties
Re: Time will tell...
what kinda drive is in the Xbox360 drive unit? if its just a laptop drive it could in theory be popped open and slide in a big drive.
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Karl Bode
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Re: Why?
You've been saying this for years.
We've already been over how any company who switched to a bill by the byte model would be at an immediate marketing disadvantage. The only way the industry could shift to that model is en masse, and that's not happening. |
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UltimateTech
join:2002-03-19
Portland, OR
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| O RLY SONY?
said by sony8 :Sony reminds users they need a $100 hard drive add-on to access the video, according to GameSpot. "We would never segregate or shut out any of our consumers from our entertainment experience because they didn't buy the top of the line system," says a Sony spokesman. I guess the extra memory slots and wi-fi capabilities that are on $600 version but not the $500 version are not part of their "entertainment experience".
I do feel though it was a bad idea for MS to sell 360's without a HD. It really does cripple the machine.
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wwdubbia
join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY | Everyone is missing the fact that you can store your purchases on XBOX Live itself vs. storing everything on your XBOX hard drive.
The hard drive is just the temporary server for the show when you want to watch it. |
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RayW
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Layton, UT
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| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Why?
said by TKJunkMail :look for monthly byte caps or cost structures to charge over certain amount of bytes/month. My ISP has a byte cap already, helps keep my costs down since I am not a heavy user. 100 gigabytes per 4 weeks metered Monday - Friday, from 7 a.m. to midnight, much more than I use even running a weather station and web page and doing Microsoft 'feature' fixes.
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Jehu
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Re: Better then nothin
said by ninjatutle :Its good. lol, yeah.
I don't think it's a landmark or a landfill.. it's an appealing option...to some..
I think unless the Xbox360 comes out with an HDMI-out add-on, it's not going to do a whole for the masses.
I don't think the battle for living room space can fought competitively with component cables. 
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Jehu
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Re: Time will tell...
The "killer app" |
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karlmarx
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Re: Why?
Maybe in your neocon fantasy world, yes, the providers could charge 'by the byte'. But this is the REAL world, and people are buying a PIPE to the internet, they aren't buying bytes. You obviously don't see the point. My ISP limits my byte transfers based on the SIZE of the pipe. I have a 10/10 connection for 35.00/month. In theory, I could use 6TB of data transfer per month. That's because I PAID FOR a PIPE that can move data at 10mb/sec. Much to your dismay, I don't pay by the byte, because that's not what internet acess is!. Sure, in your megacorp fantasy world, the ISP could charge you 3 times every time you load a web page (base 65.00, + Charge google + charge me by the byte). But that's just a wet dream for you.
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Maxo
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| said by karlmarx :Maybe in your neocon fantasy world, yes, the providers could charge 'by the byte'. I didn't know that broadband pricing plans was part of the neocon movement. |
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dispatcher21
join:2004-01-22
united state
1 edit | reply to karlmarx
You pay for a pipe but there is this thing called a TOS. I'm sure somewhere in your TOS it states that if you effect the network in a negative way, you will either be disconnected, be throttled or charged extra. So yeah, you can do your 6TB of data movement until you negativly impact the network, then you are either gone or paying more. I'm sure that in your liberal, everything should be free world Karlmarx that this would never happen, but welcome to the real world where you pay to be on SOMEONE ELSES network where THEY get to make the rules since THEY own it. I know that you think making money is evil but again, welcome to the real world Karlmarx. Yes its unlikely that ISP's will start a new pricing structure but in thoery they could, even if you dont like it...because its thier network and business. If you dont like it, you can either take your business elsewhere or start up your own network. Point is, just cause you dont like it and people are going to make money doesnt make it evil. Remember, internet access is a utility, not a right. |
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squid7
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1 edit | reply to Karl Bode
While I don't think you'll see widespead $.xx/MB pricing, I do think you may see more monthly caps like Cox HSI has where you end up paying more to get to the next tier. And rather than the tiers being all about speed, you also see more about upgrading to higher monthly caps.
Since these last mile providers are fairly isolated from competition in their individual markets, you don't have to have an en masse shift. I've had Cox since 1997 (one of the first digital cable/cable BB deployments in the US) and still, 10 years later, my particular neighborhood which is very upscale we doesn't have anything that can compete with them (no WISP, no DSL). In other nearby areas Cox a near-lock on content delivery...Ladera Ranch for example includes Cox HSI in their HOA fees so you have Cox HSI whether you want it or not so even if there is a competitior, people are less likely to use them.
I don't think this is an isolated case. Where cable sees competition from fiber we'll see these restrictions relaxed but in areas like mine I think we'll see providers clamping down and charging more fees if HSI use on a per sub basis increases. |
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Maxo
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Tallahassee, FL
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| I agree. Until we have national 3-way or more competition the viability of signing up for high-bandwidth technologies, such as video over IP, will not be able to mature. Competition will bring the prices down, and the available bandwidth up. Until then we can just sit around and day-dream of turning Japanese. |
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cableties
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| reply to Karl Bode
Re: Time will tell...
I like it better than HalfLife. It takes some getting used to with the different button layout (D-Pad) for weapons but if your used to GRAW or other...
It's not Halo 2, but it's better than Doom. Haven't tried Multiplayer yet. But I can see Co-Op on Harcore level as being a blast!
Funny...I bought CoD3 at same time and haven't even opened it... |
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