MxxCon
join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs:   |  why 30 month?
why net neutrality and naked dsl only for 30month? |
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bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | 30 MONTHS!?
It should be" untill ATT redeems itself! ( A LOOOOOONG Time) |
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bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | Or how about " month to month" ? |
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MxxCon
join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs: | month to month would be too taxing for fcc to review att's actions
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McWizzard
join:2001-06-01
Plymouth, MI
| Net_Neutrality, Naked DSL
They should be required to offer "naked DSL" in ALL their server areas within 6 months of the merger and for a period of not less than 30 months. Further, the "naked DSL" pricing should be the same as like dsl package prices being marketed for their existing packages.
One service should not be "tied" to another service offering (dsl & voice) nor should one service subsidize another service offering.
As for Net Neutrality, I'd be fine if they were restricted from blocking or limiting any existing IP service curently existing on the net. Thus, if they choose to offer VoIP 6 months from now, that's OK, but you can't block my existing 3rd party VoIP just because it's not your offering. |
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tkdslr
join:2004-04-24
Pompano Beach, FL
 ·Speakeasy
| reply to bamabrad
Re: 30 MONTHS!?
said by bamabrad  :It should be" untill ATT redeems itself! ( A LOOOOOONG Time) Or until the monopoly is broken up again.
The neutrality conditions should also set the price to resellers, below the lowest dsl combo minus voice sevice costs&profits they're imposing on retail customers.
And it should require that the service be offered in a pure bridged atm format. (And not the PPPoX over Bridged, which often impacts connectivity and reliability.)
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The Baby bells are leveraging DSL service in order to maintain voice circuit monopoly. (Cable co's are doing the same.. Standalone Inet access significantly more expensive than with TV service bundles.) It's time for this little scam to end. |
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dslextreme
Premium,VIP
join:2001-02-23
Canoga Park, CA | reply to McWizzard
Re: Net_Neutrality, Naked DSL
I agree with your stance 100%.
Net Neutrality + Same Price Naked DSL. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | YAWN..
wake me up when this crap with them is over.
When its done and final then i will take it the way it is. |
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | reply to MxxCon
Re: why 30 month?
anyone wanna take bets on how long until at&t merges with verizon and qwest? |
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ispjournalist
@internet.com | reply to bamabrad
Re: 30 MONTHS!?
A good question: who would buy naked DSL if they knew they'd get cut off after 30 months? Who'd invest in a business plan that depended on offering under a third party brand name like EarthLink? |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000
clubs: | grow a pair, FCC
30 months?
not even legally binding?
wtf is this shit. |
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powerhog
Stinkin' up the joint
Premium
join:2000-12-14
Owasso, OK | Ummm...
Their "concessions" are that they agree to follow FCC guidelines for 30 months?!?
Aren't they already supposed to be following these rules and guidelines? |
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Zoder
join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL
| No divestiture
I see that AT&T did not offer to divest their overlapping spectrum with Bellsouth as a concession. I'm hopeful that the Dems on the FCC will hold out for that one.
On a positive note, AT&T did concede that they will deploy broadband to 100% of their service area by the end of 2007 as a condition for approval. 85% through wireline and 15% through fixed wireless. |
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Dark_Fiber
Here We Go Again.
join:2004-06-13
Saint Charles, MO
| reply to McWizzard
Re: Net_Neutrality, Naked DSL
said by McWizzard :They should be required to offer "naked DSL" in ALL their server areas within 6 months of the merger and for a period of not less than 30 months. Further, the "naked DSL" pricing should be the same as like dsl package prices being marketed for their existing packages. One service should not be "tied" to another service offering (dsl & voice) nor should one service subsidize another service offering. Typical response...and no mention to the fact that the cable companies require you to pay for their TV service or pay a higher rate for cable modem.
Let the AT&T bashing begin. |
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LilYoda
Feline with squirel personality disorder
Premium
join:2004-09-02
Mountains
| At least with Cable you get the option to buy Internet service only. It's only a $5 increase a month, so that'e about 10% compared to the $50 subscription fee (that's the numbers I remember from when I was doing this with Charter)
With Bellsouth, good luck getting a DSL only line... I tried when I was still in Georgia, only speakeasy was delivering naked DSL...
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jblake
join:2003-06-28
Birmingham, AL
| reply to Zoder
Re: No divestiture
as long as fixed wireless does not mean satellite. I live less than a mile away from the end of DSL and cable availability, and cable is never coming and DSL has been pushed back for 3 years. As long as we get around the same speeds and latency as DSL, then I'm all for it. |
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Zoder
join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL | Fixed wireless would be solutions like WiMAX, not satellite. |
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zewl
join:2002-09-29
Roswell, GA
| Why 30 months?
Why not allow AT&T to compete with the broadband providers? If you don't like bundled DSL pricing, then don't buy it. There are alternatives. Competition will drive AT&T to offer naked DSL if the bundled pricing is not meeting a need. Choice is a good thing. Lack of choices (i.e., cable franchise) is stifling. |
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs: | What are the viable alternatives? |
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs:
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Speakeasy
| reply to Zoder
Re: No divestiture
Just as the old radio spectrum licensing was, if you don't use the license for a given amount of spectrum within, say, 1 year, you must give up that spectrum back to the pool.
The fear that AT&T will hold onto its spectrum without putting it to use is very real, however potentially foolish.
KM
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