CO_Chris
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | WTF?
Are thay nuts how can thay patent this? and also who gave it to them in the first place? Someone was smoking Crack that's for sure. |
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Agent_haito
join:2002-09-20
Winston Salem, NC | One size
grabs all |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
|  Another stupid patent
Well, we have another stupid patent, bought up some years ago, and now to be used to holdup at gunpoint the companies that actually made it work. One interesting thing is that the original patent applicant put this all together in 2000, when broadband reached only about 1% of US homes.
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chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | ???
Do not get this? How you can patent this? This is like patent line Assembly/production in a manufacturing...
So I guess is either you buy our equipment or we sue you if you offer Triple Play |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
·Charter Pipeline
1 edit | Skip the middle man
I'm in the process of patenting "innovation". Any concept, ideal, practice, technology, hope of achieving anything with the goal of "improvement" will be subject to a royalty in my behalf.
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | Now all cable companies and phone companies gotta pay cisco for using there rights. |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou | I'm sure efforts to collect fees will be set aside if telcos and MSO's elect to choose Cisco as their infrastructure vendor...
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Every computer infringes?
Doesn't computers transfer data, voice, and video over a single network when just surfing the web? Plus isn't voice and video just data? |
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27 | WTF?
They patented a cellphone?  |
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ElJay
join:2004-03-17
 ·Great Works Internet
| Nice "system"
I think every ISP in the country is currently in violation of that patent. Last night I played Day of Defeat: Source over my DSL connection. In that game I had integrated voice and data transmission occurring. Then later that night I watched "Lost" on ABC's website over the same line.... Oh man, it's not looking good for the internet's patent-infringing integrated voice/video/data system. |
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magnushsi
join:2002-11-06
Cedar Springs, MI | typo...
Typo in that the patent was awarded earlier this year (July) not earlier this week. |
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exocet_cm
In memory of dadkins
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join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
clubs:   | That Is Awesome!
I love it! |
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aj004
join:2006-05-28
Forest Hills, NY
| Intellectual Ventures bought up Patents and can countersue
Intellectual Ventures bought up broadband networking patents which would make Cisco crawl so this is NOT AN ISSUE.
The CEO of IV and a key google executive were giving an interview with the New Yorker apparently in NYC. I was dying to go and just stop by. Was also thinking about Nikola Tesla because he frequented the area in the old days. Also thought about Quantum Gravity but thats a whole other issue.  |
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CO_Chris
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | reply to brooklynman4
Re: Skip the middle man
well triple play is out and Quad deals will come in place now.I think Comcast/TWC will have a re branded cell phones i think sprint is the one not sure. |
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tkdslr
join:2004-04-24
Pompano Beach, FL
·Speakeasy
| Net2Phone has doing this for a decade.
Via direct and SIP like connections.
For many years they've supported Web cameras(Video), VoIP(voice), file transfer(data), and blackboard all using a common IP protocol over a single network infrastructure.
Nothing new here.
Just another mindless patent,
issued by our clueless patent office. |
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phantom6294
join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
·Comcast
| They patented TCP/IP!!!
From the patent abstract:
A method for providing integrated voice, video, and data content in an integrated service offering to one or more customer premises includes receiving television programming from a programming source, receiving data from a data network, and receiving telephone communications from a telephone network. The method further includes placing the television programming, data, and telephone communications in a common format for integrated communication over a single network infrastructure using a common communication protocol. In addition, the method includes communicating the integrated television programming, data, and telephone communications in the common format over the single network infrastructure using the common communication protocol to one or more customer premises to provide the integrated service offering. *Emphasis mine*
So... if someone uses TCP/IP to distribute video, voice, and data over the same network, they have violated the patent?
What an absolute load of absolute crap. |
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gatzdon
join:2002-10-25
Lake Zurich, IL
| I'm not infringing
Your patent specifically states "System and method for providing integrated voice, video and data to customer premises over a single network.". Sure I'm providing voice, video, and data over a single network, but they are using clearly distinct and separate protocols. They even use separate chips to decode the data and separate hardware to interface. Nothing "integrated" here.
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Goober
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
·Comcast
·WOW Internet and C..
| Calm Down
First of all, thanks once again BBR for your yellow journalism tactics when it comes to patent matters. I suppose it's good for you guys to rile up the masses.
Second, thanks also for those oh-so neutral reporting words of "any" System and method . . . 
If anyone had bothered to spend a minute or two looking at the claims, which are what define the invention, and not the title alone or BBR's silliness, you'd see that there are certain limitations built into the invention. That's not even taking into account the limitations that are in the file wrapper.
The words that finally were added to the claims to get the patent allowed included, "wherein the conditional access is implemented using interdiction."
Interdiction is discussed in the patent as given below:
"The information contained in service security server 198 may be used by the network to implement conditional access using two cooperative methods: interdiction and encryption. Interdiction is a technique where network devices, including but not limited to the metro POP and site POP switches/routers 112, 116, 126, 140, 170, 196, and/or 258, prevent routing of content to specific subscribers or regions based upon one or more access lists, geographic locations, or any other appropriate parameters. Interdiction techniques on the switches may include, but are not limited to, port access lists, multicast join prevention, multicast join to alternate source, and similar techniques applied to virtual local area networks (VLANs) as well as ports of devices. Encryption is a technique where video and audio streams are rendered unplayable by cryptographic techniques under the control of service security server 198. This content can only be rendered playable by cryptographic information distributed by service security server 198 to specific customer premises devices including, but not limited to, set-top boxes 34 and computers 32. Service security server 198 also controls access to other services including data and telephone services."
The question then is, is this interdiction limitation material to limiting the scope of the patent? If so, then everyone on BBR that's so concerned can breathe a sigh of relief. Otherwise, everyone can continue wringing their collective hands until the file wrapper is examined. |
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richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR
| Cutting Cisco some slack
Cisco and a few others can make the case for the patent. They have been combining different data streams in their routes for about decade. I will have to cut Cisco some slack. I bet Cisco is just responding to the out of control patent system where marauding patent companies of one mane and a team of legal leaches buy up patents and sue for billions for patent infringement. Cisco had to gab the patent before the patent pirates file the patent then sue Cisco and every communication company. |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
1 edit | reply to chemaupr
Re: ???
Considering kids, through their lawyer parents, have patented a particular dance move, it isn't that unusual. Ridiculous, but not unusual. |
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