  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs: | We know...
Although it sucks for them, we all know they have issues up there. Nothing new (or news should I say) |
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| very true. verizon didn't care an awful lot before and they still don't now. i dunno if that's a good thing or a bad thing (verizon's sale of this area). i'll wait and see. -- Computer & Network Consultant Yes, I use pico... laugh all you want.... |
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  karlmarx
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| Verizon shouldn't get off for free
Remember, Verizon put in the lines when they were subsidized by guaranteed rates. That was a social contract with the citizens to provide universal coverage, for ALL citizens of the state, not just the 'profitable' ones. It looks like Verizon is once again trying to screw the 'people' in exchange for higher profits, notwithstanding the fact that the 'people' paid for the entire infrastructure in the past.
I say, force verizon to upgrade everywhere. Verizon made money in the past by screwing the people, it's high time the people get the benefits of that |
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  wifi4milez Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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| said by karlmarx :Verizon made money in the past by screwing the people, it's high time the people get the benefits of that The people did. They got their phone lines, and that is all that was promised. Now Verizon wants to sell the assets, and there is nothing wrong with that. -- я люблю медведей! |
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  rit56
join:2000-12-01 New York, NY | you're an industry shill. who do you work for Verizon? |
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  Rickez Goinginsane
join:2000-09-02 Three Rivers, MA | reply to karlmarx It looks like Verizon is once again trying to screw the 'people' in exchange for higher profits,
Agreed. -- Got a one way ticket, going the wrong way.... |
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  Fountainhead Premium join:2003-10-25 New York, NY clubs: | Its not the job of any US company to look out for the people..
The people have to look out for the people. -- It's all part of my rock and roll fantasy |
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  wifi4milez Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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| reply to rit56 said by rit56 :you're an industry shill. who do you work for Verizon? I am an industry shill because I think there is nothing wrong with a company selling unprofitable assets??? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense pal.  -- я люблю медведей! |
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| reply to Fountainhead Agreed.
It's not Verizon's responsibility to ensure that every person in New England has access to a Broadband connection. That's the government's job. If the state of Vermont wants to mandate that every one in Vermont has access to a high speed connection, then the state of Vermont should fund it.
Asking a private company to take huges losses isn't going to happen. |
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  GlennAllen
join:2002-11-17 Richmond, VA | reply to rit56 Just capitalism at work. |
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  DaveNJ No Fear
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| reply to daslog said by daslog :Asking a private company to take huges losses isn't going to happen. If Verizon is a private company why do they need some many handouts ? ie Pennsylvania, NJ etc.I wonder if these people have cable because there probably "franchised" into service. -- the darkest moment is often just before dawn (unless we hold onto the darkness). Anxiety spoils everything and solves nothing. |
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  Michieru2 zzz zzz zzz Premium join:2005-01-28 Miami, FL
| reply to rit56 Broadband is not a utility so under no circumstances nobody has the right to push them to provide broadband to Maine since no business will do anything in a unprofitable area. It's not being a corporate shill it's simply a study of economics.
What the people of Main must do is find a solution to there troubles and Verizon should have no say on it either. If they want to block competition that's another matter and anyone who does agree that Verizon should be allowed to block someone else from starting is in reality a corporate shill imho. |
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  Michieru2 zzz zzz zzz Premium join:2005-01-28 Miami, FL | reply to daslog "That's the government's job." No it ain't. |
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join:2006-04-27 Forest, OH | reply to Michieru2 With triple play, and in VZ case, quad play, the excuse for not services an area for economic reasons is getting harder to justify. |
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 daslog
join:2002-04-10 Milford, NH | reply to Michieru2 So it's a private company's duty to take losses on unprofitable customers? |
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 daslog
join:2002-04-10 Milford, NH | reply to DaveNJ I too, was shocked to learn that private companies will accept handouts from the government... |
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  JamesPC
join:2005-10-12 Orange, CA | reply to wifi4milez The fact is, Verizon is cherry picking like other ISP. Which is not good for the "people".. |
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  wifi4milez Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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| said by JamesPC :The fact is, Verizon is cherry picking like other ISP. Which is not good for the "people".. No its not. This is quite the opposite of that actually. The lines are already in place, and Verizon is simply thinking about selling them. How can a company "cherry pick" something they no longer (or soon will no longer) own?? -- я люблю медведей! |
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  karlmarx
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| Verizon, doesn't have the RIGHT to sell those lines. You see, Verizon didn't pay for those lines, the PEOPLE paid for the lines. That's not a hard concept to understand now. The issue is that verizon doesn't feel like servicing the people who paid for the infrastructure over the last 75 years. Verizon would be worthless if it didn't make all the money it made (while part of bell). The lines, and the PEOPLE who paid for the lines, are a national resouce. Verizon should be held responsible for maintaing, and yes, upgrading if necessary. This concept of 'dumping' the unprofitable area's is a travesty, one that the megacorps of amerika continually try and foist off on the unsuspecting public. It's time for the FCC to show some balls, and force verizon to do what's best for the country, Screw the shareholders, they've made their money back a hundred times over already. |
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  Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02 | reply to daslog As a poster above notes, those lines have been subsidized and paid for by taxpayers ten times over, so the violin playing as far as "losses" are concerned is a little much.... |
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