Sean
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Unfortunately, I think LimeWire will lose this one. It would be better if this lawsuit were to play out in Canada, where copyright laws are much more lenient. |
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Josimars
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1 edit | I hope hope they bury LimeWire I am sick and tired of deleting this software from my kids computer. |
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MysticGogeta
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Technically the creator is in a country where they had no laws against piracy I still don't know why they are able to sue. I believe hes in Costa Rica..? Correct me if I'm wrong |
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SSX4life
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1 edit | Win or lose is not the matter
The matter is not if they win or lose, it is more bringing to attention how HARD the RIAA / MPAA has been on media distribution and other "companies" (legit or not) when it comes to their media. They are demanding more and more money per download, more and more protection, and making people wish that they would get out of the media distribution business all together.
We've seen them fight Apple tooth and nail when it comes to media downloads on their music. We've seen Microsoft patch their DRM on music downloads FASTER than their operating system. We've seen other media distribution companies have a hard time working out deals with the companies time and time again. It's almost like they don't want them to exist..... THEY were the only means of distribution, and that all other channels of media distribution were missing to improve revenue. When they do this (if they succeed) they will be making more money on their broken business model and ruining peoples rights with horrible senators like Warren Hatch (Utah), and Ted Stevens (Alaska).
I feel sorry for those artists and film makers that keep getting jipped by the media companies that have a virtual stranglehold on their profits and income. Don't want the money to go to them? Too bad! Want to start your own media company? Good luck, you don't have the cash or resources to get started!
It's a virtual oligopoly (sp) and the world knows it. Why do you think the RIAA hates indy bands and groups that are not going with their "get rich quick" mentality when they won't sign their songs rights away? It comes down to one thing and one thing alone M O N E Y.
The fact of this case is not a win / lose but instead a "wake up people and look at what the hell is going on with your digital rights".
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Re: Hope.
Maybe you should be a PARENT to your children, rather than forcing the "village" to go without because of your unwillingness to do so.
Take their computers out of their bedrooms and put them in a family area where they can be watched. Don't give them administrative-level accounts so it's harder for them to install things. Take them away if they abuse the privilege. Geez.
"Burying" useful technologies because you have no control over your children seems a bit Draconian, don't you think? |
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said by Josimars  :I hope hope they bury LimeWire I am sick and tired of deleted this software from my kids computer. Why is it anybody else's fault that you can't control your children?
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said by Josimars :I hope hope they bury LimeWire I am sick and tired of deleted this software from my kids computer. Hmmm. There's bigger issues at stake, don't you think? What you've said is kinda like someone saying "I am sick and tired of people speeding in their cars up and down my street.... I hope they ban automobiles!"
For the good of consumers and the U.S. populace in general, it would be great if limewire wins... So defeat is probably a certainty.
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said by Sean :Unfortunately, I think LimeWire will lose this one. It would be better if this lawsuit were to play out in Canada, where copyright laws are much more lenient. Limewire may or may not successfully defend itself on the copyright issues and charges it is aiding and abetting copyright infringement. The Grokster case revolved around a centralized directory and the fact that Grokster had control of it. That got them in trouble. Limewire claims it has no control at all over a centralized directory of any sort, therefore the Grokster ruling doesn't apply. The courts may not agree and may base their decision on INTENT of Limewire to aid and abet copyright infringement and not on any technical control issues. Facts submitted about their advertising methods may determine whether they win or lose.
As far as counter-suing claiming antitrust, they are on shaky grounds. Industry associations and trade groups like the RIAA have been found legal over and over in the courts as long as they didn't hold meetings to set prices or exclude companies in the industry from joining the trade group. Companies in the industry, in this case, comprising music companies that own copyrighted material. Limewire wouldn't fit into the trade group since it is not a company that owns copyrighted music.
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gar187er
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though the RIAA will simply try to paint Limewire as a tool for "thieves."
so why doesnt the federal goverment sue the gun companies?!??! |
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Shark_615
join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON | reply to Josimars
Re: Hope.
It is limewire's fault you do not know how stop your children from installing it; either through learning how to use your computer or through parenting?
Strange. |
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cableties
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Every machine I get a call on to clean or repair has Limewire or eMule on it. Teens using it for getting music and apps. I even know a colleague that instead of getting a demo or buying something to use, goes to Limewire religiously. Asking for trouble.
If anything, Limewire should sue for entrapment, service tampering (as I am 90% sure RIAA has someone uploading trojans as mp3 files).Songs shouldn't be executables.
Can't blame the kids though. Many teens have no clue (look at study about remorse/consideration lacking in teen development) and just want peer acceptance.
What I want to know is, how does Limewire make any money? Are they selling ads in their P2Pware? Or selling IP information?
Yeah, goodluck LW. I wonder if they took the image for their logo from some pirated photo-clipart CD... |
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said by Steve :said by Josimars :I hope hope they bury LimeWire I am sick and tired of deleted this software from my kids computer. Why is it anybody else's fault that you can't control your children? What he said
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said by Steve :said by Josimars :I hope hope they bury LimeWire I am sick and tired of deleted this software from my kids computer. Why is it anybody else's fault that you can't control your children? My first thought as well.
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russotto
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Re: tools!?!?
Because the NRA is a more powerful lobby than any geeks have. |
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Re: Hope.
said by Steve :said by Josimars :I hope hope they bury LimeWire I am sick and tired of deleted this software from my kids computer. Why is it anybody else's fault that you can't control your children? Agreed....put them on a limited account (if you are running Win2k or XP). Had to do that for my stepson when he got my puter infected awhile back.....if he wants something installed, I have to do it... |
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said by Steve :Why is it anybody else's fault that you can't control your children? Well you can file class-action against Limewire with RIAA by your side 
*edit* Sigh...above poster beat me to the admin/user account thing. Touche sir, touche.
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Shark_615
join:2006-01-17
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Re: tools!?!?
Because owning a gun bought through the proper channels is not illegal, covil or otherwise.
However downloading copyrighted material is. |
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