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4 edits | interesting
a communist government initiative, built out and funded by the government. sure makes the Time Warners, Verizons etc look like pathetic Morse code supply side broadband providers.... "My concern is we will get behind" Who is he kidding? We already are..... |
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dadkins
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| "My concern is that we will get behind."
Uhm... ever look out the window pal?
The U.S. is already behind.
Want to know why? Greed! 
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GilbertMark
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Great, China will now be able to restrict access to even more things with this new expansion of their "internet". |
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| Look on the good side. US companies are competing heavily in the expanding Chinese market. Even though china may not be for free trade and competition we may now be able to compete with them and push out IPv6 along in our own country. On a second note will they be able to form new standards they we ALL will have to adhere to in they beat us in the IPv6 race? (sounds like the race to the moon).
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Re: interesting
said by rit56  :a communist government initiative, built out and funded by the government. sure makes the Time Warners, Verizons etc look like pathetic Morse code supply side broadband providers.... "My concern is we will get behind" Who is he kidding? We already are..... Except that in China, you are guaranteed to disappear in a very efficient manner should you look at the "wrong" websites, or if you want to find out more about the 4 June 1989 Tienanmen Square Massacre than just tourist information.
As for China being "communist," it is now "communist" in name only. With the rise of somewhat private enterprise in that country, it is more of fascist dictatorship now than a communist regime. Not that it makes much of a difference when the government wants to kill you.
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| Official US sucks thread
OK boys and girls, this thread is for all those who want to say the US sucks because the US government is not funding broadband penetration, IPv6(which is not really needed anyways but that's just a minor detail) or you are pissed because companies are too greedy and your sorry ass can't get into those greedy companies thereby losing you money. So have it, we all know the US sucks and it ain't worth a crap. Here is your chance to show just how bad it is.
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| said by 72276539 :OK boys and girls, this thread is for all those who want to say the US sucks because the US government is not funding broadband penetration Maybe it would just be cheaper for the US government to buy the complainers one-way tickets to China instead 
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| Well you have to admit that is at least ONE good thing about a communist country, when they want something done its sweeping changes.
Have to face up to the facts, more and more people adopt other countries ways to do things than use the USA as a model like the old days.
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pnh102
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| said by markopoleo :Well you have to admit that is at least ONE good thing about a communist country, when they want something done its sweeping changes. Never. There is nothing good about communism, socialism, fascism, or any other philosophy which denies personal freedoms. There is nothing good about any communist country and the world is better off now that communism is nearly gone.
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Sammer
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Canonsburg, PA | reply to pnh102
Actually about $20 billion from those spectrum auctions our government holds would be enough to jump-start a real broadband initiative in the U.S. Like physical highways it's called infrastructure and it is important to the national economy. |
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Gwailo
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| Depends on what the average American knows about China....
Does this Look Totally :"Communist"? |
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ricep5
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| Internet Pearl Harbor
There have been several technology Pearl Harbor's in our time....
- Sputnik
- 1973 Energy Crisis
Just to name a couple.....
But we responded in a competitive fashion once it was discovered.
- Man on the Moon
- Fuel price deregulation
I don't think its a flaw of the US to take a wait and see on IPv6, its just human nature to wait when the benefit isn't obvious.
Perhaps the Chinese will discover a use we can't seem to fathom. I think they like it for the amount of control and management it provides. |
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| said by ricep5 :There have been several technology Pearl Harbor's in our time.... - Sputnik - 1973 Energy Crisis Just to name a couple..... But we responded in a competitive fashion once it was discovered. - Man on the Moon - Fuel price deregulation I don't think its a flaw of the US to take a wait and see on IPv6, its just human nature to wait when the benefit isn't obvious. Perhaps the Chinese will discover a use we can't seem to fathom. I think they like it for the amount of control and management it provides. There is a definite advantage to NOT being first. The first gets to spend enormous amounts of money debugging all the problems. And those coming in later(but not a whole lot later) get to more efficiently roll out the new technology at a much lower cost.
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Re: Official US sucks thread
said by pnh102 :Never. There is nothing good about communism, socialism, fascism, or any other philosophy which denies personal freedoms. Including our current regieme? LOL. While it may not be as far to the extreme as many nations, I think it's still off track.
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Re: Internet Pearl Harbor
said by TKJunkMail :There is a definite advantage to NOT being first. The first gets to spend enormous amounts of money debugging all the problems. And those coming in later(but not a whole lot later) get to more efficiently roll out the new technology at a much lower cost. This is in fact true. The late comers also usually benefit from deploying refined or improved versions, while the initial deployers are stuck with older versions....
However, there are also several advantages to pioneering the technology--- as in, your way becomes the standard that then others have to follow to use the system. A case in point is the Air Traffic control system. The USA pioneered passenger air travel and the Airlines. As a result, to this day, English is the language that has to be used internationally by pilots for Air traffic control communications.
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said by TKJunkMail :There is a definite advantage to NOT being first. The first gets to spend enormous amounts of money debugging all the problems. And those coming in later(but not a whole lot later) get to more efficiently roll out the new technology at a much lower cost. Agreed.
AMPS cell phone technology comes to mind.
GSM/TDMA/CDMA all rolled out more effectively due to the hurdles AMPS faced and cleared. |
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By 2050 rest of the world will realize the US is just a third world nation. Our politicians will deny it of course, maybe our media too. We'll be a footnote in textbooks of Chinese and India school children, while ours will be laboring in the fields for something to eat for that day. There is no need to invest in any infrastructure of the future when there will be no need for it. We are already seeing the consequences of the principles open market economy, capitalistic system; why invest in something where there is no return? |
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1 edit | IPv6 for those that dont know like me
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6
China is not the only one looking at doing this but the Asian broadband kings SK and Japan also |
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Re: interesting
Be careful what you look at on that fancy new Internet in China, you might end up in one of these...
»www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006···an_x.htm
Quoted from the linked article...
"The country that executed more than four times as many convicts as the rest of the world combined last year.."
"Sixty-eight different crimes — more than half non-violent offenses such as tax evasion and drug smuggling — are punishable by death in China. That means the death vans are likely to keep rolling."
Ya know what, for all the bitching and moaning we do about such things as the Patriot act, electronic monitoring, and the like. I'll take my 3 MB DSL connection knowing I'm probably not going to take a ride in one of these puppies next time I screw up my taxes....
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Re: Official US sucks thread
There is good things about communism. If deny personal freedoms your only problem, every country does that to some extent. Yes even the USA does this.
Take Cuba and the USA for example, they both block outright radio and TV signals coming from each respective countries.
Personal freedom is not exclusive to any country. |
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