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Comments on news posted 2006-09-15 14:28:22: Reuters reports that the FCC AWS spectrum auction is winding down. The big winner was T-Mobile, who provisionally won 119 licenses in major markets like New York City and Chicago with offers of almost $4.2 billion after 136 rounds. ..

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snipper_cr

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Result?

With gaining these new frequencies, what will it entail? Highier call volume, new services (video? I know most people dont use it), or cheaper prices?
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kapil
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$13.9B

How many brownies in Iraq and Afghanistan can we kill with that money?


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Re: Result?

said by snipper_cr See Profile :

With gaining these new frequencies, what will it entail? Highier call volume, new services (video? I know most people dont use it), or cheaper prices?
More stronghold by the big few and higher prices, more than likely.
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Matt
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said by kapil See Profile :

How many brownies in Iraq and Afghanistan can we kill with that money?
I think that will pay up until about lunch, or perhaps only 2nd breakfast.
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Good for T-Mobile (and its customers)

They should be able to increase coverage and offer data services so they will bring better competition to Cingular, Verizon and Sprint-Nextel. T-Mobile was particularly lacking in data.


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vastly different per license prices

The article doesn't get specific, but Verizon's areas must be major cash cows compared to most of the ones T-Mobile picked up. Verizon spent an average of $215M per license compared to T-Mobile's $35M per.
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said by Vig See Profile :

The article doesn't get specific, but Verizon's areas must be major cash cows compared to most of the ones T-Mobile picked up. Verizon spent an average of $215M per license compared to T-Mobile's $35M per.
Per-license comparisons are meaningless, as some of the licenses cover very large regions of the country (REA), while others cover a single metro area (MSA) or a few rural counties (RSA). VZW has mainly been going for REA licenses, while T-Mobile has been concentrating on MSA/RSA licenses (and a few REAs here and there.)

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wwdubbia

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Verizon will buy T-Mobile eventually.

You heard it here first.


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Re: $13.9B

said by Matt See Profile :

said by kapil See Profile :

How many brownies in Iraq and Afghanistan can we kill with that money?
I think that will pay up until about lunch, or perhaps only 2nd breakfast.
That would pay for about 59 days, almost three months. That doesn't count the cost for the men that will need life time care because of broken bodies. Of course they will be screwed like all veterans.


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said by wwdubbia See Profile :

Verizon will buy T-Mobile eventually.

You heard it here first.
That is where the money is but Verizon better run FIOS to my house first.


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I thought I heard that they were spending 80B a day?

»www.usatoday.com/news/politicsel···ck_x.htm

Ahhh, not sure where I got the 80B a day from then.
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Re: vastly different per license prices

said by wwdubbia See Profile :

Verizon will buy T-Mobile eventually.

You heard it here first.
I think they'll pick up AllTel before T-Mobile.

Remember who owns T-Mobile.... DT is a large multi-national company.
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jervin123

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Verizon will come back and say there a Multi national company to that comment... Wow you operate a data center in the Netherlands. That Danger INC. (Operator of the Sidekick/Hiptop data service for Sidekicks and Hipotops. DT would be more trusted in my eyes the Verizon.


kapil
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reply to wwdubbia
Highly doubt it. Verizon is CDMA and T-Mo is GSM. A more likely scenario is that VZW will buy Alltell and then try to buy-out co-owner Vodaphone. Vodaphone is then free to reinvest in the US which it will probably do by buying T-MO or partnering with T-Mo's German parent.


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 America for sale.

The big winner, T-Mobile, is a 100% German owned company and the second biggest, Verizion Wireless, is 49% owned by Vodafone, a British company. The rest were bought by CATV companies and Satellite TV/internet providers. It did not mention CLEC/ISPs putting in any bids, pity they could show us how a network should be built.

It was not that long ago that the US of A had the best, by far, communication network in the world. Every scrap of cable, equipment and brain power was made in the US of A.


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Re: Good for T-Mobile (and its customers)

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They should be able to increase coverage and offer data services so they will bring better competition to Cingular, Verizon and Sprint-Nextel. T-Mobile was particularly lacking in data.
Not very likely. The new 1700/2100MHz bands will not offer any improvement in propagation versus the 1900MHz they are using now. Had it been for spectrum in the 700MHz or 850MHz bands then it would have made a difference. What this will do is give them more bandwidth to roll out more advanced 3G services. However, any holes in their coverage now will still be there with these new frequencies unless they build out more cell sites.
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Re: $13.9B

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I thought I heard that they were spending 80B a day?

»www.usatoday.com/news/politicsel···ck_x.htm

Ahhh, not sure where I got the 80B a day from then.
That is only $64 Billion USD a year, I thought it was closer to $100 Billion USD. Hell we can stay another couple of years at that price.

jervin123

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Re: America for sale.

So the cable companys little friend buying them spectrum is helping Craptastic get back into the cell phone business... they should just buy the old network from cingular in my area.


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Re: vastly different per license prices

Won't happen.

1. VZW is CDMA, while T-Mobile is GSM. Converting all those sites would cost a fortune.

2. VZW already has licenses in most of the places that T-Mobile has licenses.

3. You're assuming DT will sell.

As others have said, VZW would be more likely to buy Alltel, assuming they want to be bought and not grow into a national carrier in their own right. VZW roams on Alltel in many areas, but that doesn't mean VZW wants Alltel. It's possible that it costs less to pay for roaming than to maintain a larger network.

If you want my prediction, I think you'll see more consolidation among the smaller carriers. I could see Cricket and MetroPCS merging at some point, or maybe Alltel will make a play for one or both of them. If Alltel decides they want to be a national player, they need licenses in more cities, and grabbing those two carriers would help them achieve that. Add in the fact that all three carriers are CDMA would make network integration much easier.


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Re: America for sale.

Your point is? T-Mobile (Deutsch Telekom) and Verizon (Vodafone) employ hundreds of thousands of American citizens. That's just like saying buying a Honda or Toyota isn't supporting US jobs. They both employ thousands, and most of those two brands (at least the most popular brands) are built right here in America. Ford and Chevy can't even say that! (most popular models are often built in Canada.)

Your argument is full of outdated, close-minded thinking.

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